Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 39. (Read 243376 times)

Oh, I see an opportunity here when you mention exchanges and trust. (I find myself in the same spot usually)
Rob has in his ideas bucket the potential of using BBP for cross-chain trading - Why don't we make it possible so people can acquire BBP without the need for exchanges? A blockchain-based escrow or a conversion bot, perhaps?

OK, so since I won't switch teams (as I am a team captain) then my only option is to set up an Exchange account and purchase more Biblepay to meet the minimum requirements which isn't going to happen either. I don't trust the current exchanges. So, I guess what I need to know now is how to turn off PoDC so that I'm not wasting my BBP with GSC transmissions that won't ever pan out a return. I also see this as an issue that will most likely occur with many BOINC contributors that may be tempted to create wallets. It should also be explained better in the wiki as this seems to be a "dead zone" of sorts.

Also, since there is no Android (or mobile) work to crunch at WCG right now (for a few months now actually) and no ETA on when it will return (scientists have not said when SCC will have work again and WCG has no official plans for Android work on the other sub projects) then isn't it a moot point right now to have a low RAC stipulation for unbanked? Maybe a note needs added to the wiki for this as well.

Sort of ...  To be unbanked, you can throttle boinc so it hardly does work - and let the rac drop. 
But on a more serious note we have some mobile unbanked users and they tend to gravitate under 300 rac.
The idea back then was to allow them to earn enough to buy a loaf of bread through cancer mining etc (on a mobile).

1) Strictly on the part about the 'exec rac' switching from the 37Mil requirement over to 'not being linked', that is a bug in this first version, but note, its not the kind of bug affecting PODC or payments (its a client glitch on the display purposes only).  You can get around it by rebooting the client or waiting four hours (then exec rac will work again).  Im trying to get that fixed as a leisure asap. 


2)  So Im looking at your coinage reqs.  Since you arent on team bbp, thats why the req is so high (37 mil).  Yes, we are supposed to put you in the leaderboard with a commensurate low reward, but I see we have a minimum threshhold (I honestly dont remember doing that, but for now we have it because its the consensus for the sancs).  So here is how the two step phase works:  On Non-Team BBP, we check your req, and 54000 rac reqs 37Mil in coin-age.  Then we reduce your minimum RAC req (after we see you didnt make it), to 4368 RAC.  Then we see if you have a coin age of 667,501 BBP (but you didnt meet that), so that explains why you are not in the leaderboard.  Note, that if you send out a GSC, you will show up in the leaderboard in about 5-7 blocks, as long as you satisfy the req.  So if possible, if you join team BBP, what would happen is the req would drop to 53.9K for 4368 (after missing the first) and you would be in the leaderboard.  This also explains why you have not received podc rewards (you must be in the leaderboard to get podc rewards).

Well, we do actually reverse engineer the researchers RAC down to a commensurate level of RAC if they dont have enough BBP. 

So if they have 100,000 bbp on hand, and lets say that amount allows a level of '9000 rac' on team biblepay, but he has 150,000 rac, the leaderboard will reverse his RAC down to 9000 and he will still get a reward.

There is an issue where if payments are lower than something like .10 bbp they will not enter the leaderboard due to rounding issues etc.

Note all:  Its a lot cheaper to participate if you are in Team BBP rather that not in team bbp.

Hi there!

I believe you need to pass the minimum stake to go into the leaderboard, regardless of the team. It was something like 5% ? Assuming it is 5%, you would need 1.8M BBP or so in the CPK address.

Coin age is not the same as BiblePay total. So 1 BBP in your wallet untouched for 3 days is 3 days worth of coin age. At least that is how I understand it. And yes this is an issue for DC'ers and requiring such an up front amount to get started. I am not a large DC'er and I don't have the amount needed as I only have a little over 100k BBP total to work with.

OMG you need to stake 37 millions bbp to get your reward !?

Yesterday running exec rac got me:


{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "CPK": "BSzYoSHeQGwAGseo12gq67KdL56AhVSoEV",
  "next_podc_gsc_transmission": 166357,
  "team_name": "Unknown",
  "external_purse_total_coin_age": 1789.596875000001,
  "coin_age_percent_required": 0.99,
  "NOTE!": "Coins must have a maturity of at least 5 confirms for your coin*age to count.  (See current depth in coin control).",
  "WARNING!": "BiblePay requires staking collateral to be stored in your Christian-Public-Key (External Purse) to be available for GSC transmissions.  You currently do not have enough coin age in your external purse.  This means your PODC reward will be reduced to a commensurate amount of RAC.  Please read our PODC 2.0 guide about sending bankroll notes to yourself.  ",
  "coin_age_required": 37331261.2988052,
  "wcg_id": 338542,
  "rac": 54018.86
}


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However today when I run it I get:
exec rac


21:53:52

{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "temporary_cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "Error": "Your CPID is linked to your CPK, but we are unable to find your research records in WCG; most likely because you are not in team BiblePay yet.",
  "Step 1": "Log into your WCG account at 'worldcommunitygrid.org' with your WCG E-mail address and WCG password.",
  "Step 2": "Click Settings | My Profile.  Record your 'Username' and 'Verification Code' and your 'CPID' (Cross-Project-ID).",
  "Step 3": "Click Settings | Data Sharing.  Ensure the 'Display my Data' radio button is selected.  Click Save. ",
  "Step 4": "Click My Contribution | My Team.  If you are not part of Team 'BiblePay' click Join Team | Search | BiblePay | Select BiblePay | Click Join Team | Save.",
  "Step 5": "NOTE: After choosing your team, and starting your research, please give WCG 24 hours for the CPID to propagate into BBP.  In the mean time you can start Boinc research - and ensure the computer is performing WCG tasks. ",
  "Step 6": "From our RPC console, type, exec associate your_username your_verification_code",
  "Step 7": "Wait for 5 blocks to pass.  Then type 'exec rac' again, and see if you are linked!  ",
  "Step 8": "Once you are linked you will receive daily rewards.  Please read about our minimum stake requirements per RAC here: wiki.biblepay.org/PODC"
}


I am not on team BiblePay. According to the documentation I do not have to be. Is this accurate or is it limited to team BiblePay and Gridcoin?

https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup

I can see that I have now sent out 3 GSC transmissions in the wallet but have not received any payouts for contributions to WCG. Before asking, I have contributed to WCG non-stop for 12 years. My RAC is fully established by now. I am aware that coin age may be a factor, but wasn't sure if that is the case since the reply mentioned not being part of the team. I will also add that I do allow stats exporting.

World Community Grid:

Active Research
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do

Completed Projects
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do?proj=comp

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Active:

Africa Rainfall Project
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/arp1/overview.do

Microbiome Immunity Project
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/mip1/overview.do

Smash Childhoold Cancer
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/scc1/overview.do

Help Stop TB (Tuberculosis)
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/hst1/overview.do

FightAids@Home - Phase 2
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/fahb/overview.do

Mapping Cancer Markers
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/mcm1/overview.do

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Website: "World Community Grid is a simple way to support cutting-edge research into important global humanitarian causes."

Wiki: "World Community Grid is an effort to create the world's largest public computing grid to tackle scientific research projects that benefit humanity"

Twitter: "An IBM Corporate Social Responsibility initiative supporting humanitarian scientific research."

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Interesting, hadnt dug into it yet, I just clicked to add all the projects when I set up PODC

https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-whitelist-grc-podc.html

yes two cancer projects .. one of those cancer projects has a kid focus  the other project is Africa rainfall project which is good for Africa food security and for families that depends on farming for sustenance.

maybe universe@home can be supported too?!

You have Christian song lyrics like this to support it.

I'm not trying to cause friction but legitimately asking. Is our focus on PoDC now moved away from cancer research? Out of WCG's remaining six sub projects, only two are cancer focused. One hasn't had work for months. Should we fairly say the focus has shifted to a general humanitarian goals instead? I want to say the stats exports let you track by a sub project level and so could be tied to those if desired. However I don't know if that is also on a user level or just team level.

Just so others are aware, one sub project (only one with Android work) hasn't had work in months with no ETA in sight. Two sub projects with small quantities to go around. Fah2 has work but mip and mcm seem to have the largest amount available at any given time. Also for those unaware, mip is very heavy on L3 cache. Rule of thumb is run no more than one mip work unit per 4mb cache that your CPU has or your performance will suffer a good deal.

Good suggestion, added it in, Thanks!

Nice.... What about to mention Dashpay?

And @MIP, great work on mobile wallet... Thanks

Updated Bitcointalk ANN
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47788843

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Changes:

- Added one line sentence of PODC

Accomplishments
- reordered

Overview
- added Dimensions wiki page
- added Dash coin ANN link

New Features
- added Dynamic Whale Staking
- changed PODC link
- added DashPay

Utility
- added new section with DashPay

Download Wallet
- fixed Linux GUI 64 bit link

Mining Guides
- removed Quick Start
- removed External Miner
- removed Windows
- removed Linux
- added PODC Setup wiki
- added POBH Setup wiki
- updated Suns pool link
- increased font size of pool links

Earn Coins
- removed old faucet link
- removed gospel links
- removed orphan letter writing
- added southxchange faucet
- added healing campaign

Exchanges
- updated graviex logo
- updated tokok link

Specifications
- added Emission Schedule 2020
- added Economic Changes Dec 2019

Block Reward
- updated

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Any and all feedback welcome!

Finally my WCG account is linked with my wallet.
RAC 657 ... So I need 4500bbp to get my reward ...
To be under 250 we need to run WCG on a pentium III ?

Addressing the PODC reward question, we have a daily GSC superblock with 872K emitted to participants daily; about 40% goes to POOM/Healing and 60% to PODC.
So out of the daily emission of 550,000 bbp, that is split evenly by the RAC in WCG project.
Right now 1 point of RAC is very close to 1 BBP daily reward; if you go into the Leaderboard from qt, and look at all the rows starting with "WCG", notice that the "points" on those rows actually equal the researchers RAC.  So if someone has 1000 points, they have 1000 RAC.  Today 1000 RAC is paying about 1000 bbp per day.

Of course this changes as more competitors come in.

Ill have to look at the situation with Rosetta; we like them but they ran out of work a lot, and caused us to really break our necks trying to add WCG as a backup.  Now we have WCG primarily because they have about 10 different possible parallel projects to crunch - so Im hesitant to add complexity to PODC (by supporting multiple projects) - once you go that route then you have to have a dynamic ratio per RAC per project (as each RAC per project is not equal in cobblestones).  At least now, everyone is fairly stuck in WCG which is nice for competition and fairness.

Oh wow, this is awesome, we always wanted to be able to tithe to churches from the mobile (even though we have no official partners yet, who are churches).

So what we did to launch this is we entered a few 'partner' records in DSQL (from web.biblepay.org click on partners).  These are just our existing charities we already have a relationship with.

If someone clicks "Tithe" from the mobile wallet, they can give some extra BBP to one of those partners.
The idea is in the future, when we make a relationship with a church, we can add a DSQL record for the church, then the congregation can tithe with BBP.

Great work MIP, thanks!

Android mobile wallet version 1.4.8.5

- added new tithe feature screen

iOS version will come in a few days

In the past BiblePay has supported Rosetta@home, I assume it will be supported in the future, but we shall see

On the calculating rewards, I currently dont know how to calculate rewards, but there definitely is a way to do it, the setup guide just represents my own current limited knowledge

http://wiki.biblepay.org/BOINC_Researcher_Setup#PART_E_-_Calculate_Staking_and_Daily_Profit
this is the old guide on how to do it, its basically (Your RAC / Team RAC) * Daily Block Reward for PODC,
I dont know the Team RAC and Daily Block reward for PODC yet, but its being calculated somewhere,
once we figure it out Ill add it to the guide