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Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 40. (Read 243376 times)

legendary
Activity: 2030
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A humble Siberian miner
I'm sorry to see that you might have mined on a fork and lost some bbp mined off the main chain, but we must move forward.  Ill post my hypothesis.
First, note that in our 2 year history this is the first mandatory where the network required our users to upgrade before the mandatory cutover height.  We had an increase in our governance protocol version to 70750 from 70737, and when 60% of our sancs moved to 70750, the older biblepay clients stopped recognizing those sanctuaries as official, meaning they then need to upgrade early (or go on a fork) - this explains why 75% of our network upgraded 3 days early (we were shooting for Dec 26th and all this happened around Dec 23rd).

So apparently what happened is you mined on the prior version, 1 mil bbp on the low diff chain.  When you upgraded, all the blocks mined on the side chain got erased.  Notice how your outbound transaction to your mobile is orphaned also.  Thats because it was sent on a sidechain, and the txid is not on the main chain.

The reason your last mined transaction is in immature is because its not 120 deep yet but its probably officially mined.

Just run the client with -zapwallettxes=1 and restart and it will fleece the orphans out of the wallet - note it will remove all the mined and the outbound tx and leave all official txes.

Good luck going forward.

Is it possible in future display a message about necessary upgrades (or just about next available versions) right inside the wallet? May be as a Prayer Request, I don't know...

Also, I would like BiblePay to support a distributed computing project Rosetta@home

p.s. https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup#PART_I:_Calculate_Rewards - so actually we can't calculate a reward for PoDC mining, right? I like charity and BOINC, please don't get me wrong, but for now I need to return my investments in hardware... Later (pls check my signature if you didn't do this yet) it will not have such a meaning for me like it has now...
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Activity: 1260
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Ive been updating Documentation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/efeeg3/documentation_step_by_step_guides_need_help/

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Proof of Distributed Computing (Science Research)
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup

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Proof of BibleHash (Heat Mining)
https://wiki.biblepay.org/POBH_Setup

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Masternode
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Create_Sanctuary_2
- added deterministic upgrading steps
- updated creating proposals and voting on proposals

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Dynamic Whale Staking
https://wiki.biblepay.org/DWS_Setup

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Please review my guides and give feedback!

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Healing Campaign
https://wiki.biblepay.org/BiblePay_Healing_Campaign

I tested this and it works, I think its a great guide

Minor bug, I did crash my wallet trying to send a diary entry before my "exec join healing" transaction reached enough confirmations

I noticed in Suns guide there are config settings:
https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-gsc-healing.html

Are there rewards to tithing more than 1 BBP?
Are there rewards for coin-age? Is this sort of a smaller version of POG?
full member
Activity: 1260
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So much information Smiley
From what I understand, I will probably be under 250, so no need to stake for first reward.
Will see in few hours ...

EDIT1
Mmh in fact I will get no reward, because I can't use faucet and I need 1BBP to create cpk, right ?

EDIT2
Tired about that, bought some on graviex ...

Yes, I think you need 1-2 BBP to create CPK,
and I think you need another 1-2 BBP to associate your research account

The SouthXchange faucet is probably easiest to use, but its really low right now,
I sent them ticket to add some more BBP from my account

I think FreeFaucet.io hasnt upgraded their BiblePay wallet yet

Graviex has a faucet I donated to, but it ran out super quick, Ill set one up again

Thank you for testing, asking questions and providing feedback!

EDIT: Setup Graviext faucet, gives 10 BBP every 7 days: https://graviex.net/faucets/list
sr. member
Activity: 661
Merit: 250
So much information Smiley
From what I understand, I will probably be under 250, so no need to stake for first reward.
Will see in few hours ...

EDIT1
Mmh in fact I will get no reward, because I can't use faucet and I need 1BBP to create cpk, right ?

EDIT2
Tired about that, bought some on graviex ...
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Activity: 1260
Merit: 115
RAC is for what period ? 24h ?
I mean, how many credits in 24h are 250 RAC ?

RAC is a little bit complicated
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Computation_credit
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=9482
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOINC_Credit_System
https://www.reddit.com/r/gridcoin/comments/9on87y/how_long_does_it_take_for_my_racmag_to_level_out/e7vftj9

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RAC(new) = RAC(old)*d(t) + (1-d(t))*credit(new)
Where d(t) is the decay function, and t is the time (in seconds) since the last Recent Average Credit recalculation.

d(t) = e^(-ln(2)*t / 604800)

So RAC has two parts... a decay function for old credits and a buildup for new credit.

Using days as the unit, let's look at the buildup...

1 - d(0 days) = 1 - (1/2)^(0 / 7 days) = 0

1 - d(1 day) = 1 - (1/2)^(1 / 7 days) = 0.09427 = 9.427%

1 - d(2 days) = 1 - (1/2)^(2 / 7 days) = 0.1797 = 17.97%

1 - d(7 days) = 1 - (1/2)^(7 / 7 days) = 0.5 = 50% (the "halflife" point)

1 - d(14 days) = 1 - (1/2)^(14 / 7 days) = 0.75 = 75%

1 - d(21 days) = 1 - (1/2)^(21 / 7 days) = 0.875 = 87.5%

1 - d(28 days) = 1 - (1/2)^(28 / 7 days) = 0.9375 = 93.75%

So during steady state computation (credit granting), it will take 7 days for your RAC to "charge" to 50% of the equilibrium value.
After one month, you will be greater than 90% of the equilibrium value
sr. member
Activity: 661
Merit: 250
RAC is for what period ? 24h ?
I mean, how many credits in 24h are 250 RAC ?
sr. member
Activity: 661
Merit: 250
I understand, but before investing I want to test, not the opposite Smiley
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Activity: 1260
Merit: 115
If your RAC is below 250, you do not need to have any coins
If your RAC is above 250, you will need BiblePay coins in your wallet to get your daily rewards

Not sure to understand ...
If I have MORE than 250, I need coins in my wallet to be rewarded ? But if I'm new, I've ZERO coin in my wallet ...

Yes, you need BiblePay coins in your wallet to get research rewards

The community voted for it, I think there are good reasons for it (I voted against it)
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=476.0

But it basically requires you to invest upfront into BiblePay (which adds more steps) and then over time as you gain rewards you surpass the initial investment and make profit

The reasoning, if I understand correctly, is so that people dont just come into BiblePay, get the rewards and just sell them all, But rather by "staking" (having to own coins) they become investors into BiblePay
sr. member
Activity: 661
Merit: 250
RAC is ?


EDIT
ok, found
5. Check your RAC (Recent Average Credit)
Probably need little time to WCG API to refresh because I've already sent some wus ...


Any idea of what's the ratio credit/bbp ?

If your RAC is below 250, you do not need to have any coins
If your RAC is above 250, you will need BiblePay coins in your wallet to get your daily rewards

Not sure to understand ...
If I have MORE than 250, I need coins in my wallet to be rewarded ? But if I'm new, I've ZERO coin in my wallet ...
What's the formula for RAC ?
full member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 115
Mmh so if I understand, to start we need to complete some WCG works BEFORE trying faucet ?

I believe so, interested to test it out?, It just got released

Guide: https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup
newbie
Activity: 150
Merit: 0
I've upgraded my sanctuaries to the latest wallet version (1.4.8.4.) and cleaned them as per Togo's guide. Everything seems to be working fine, but I can't seem to vote.

Code:
Voting failed! Failed to vote 0 time(s). (Check that sanctuaries are DIP3? Also you must wait 3 minutes in-between re-votes due to network rules.)

They are in the DIP3 list and I've been getting rewards consistently. Both controller wallet and sanctuary wallets are on the same chain, and they are not on a fork as far as I can tell...



Can you please post the voting command including the id you are using, as I voted manually for Togos proposal and it worked but I did it from the rpc.



I tried to vote using the GUI. I can't remember the command to pull all the Proposal ID's, and I don't know if I can copy them from the GUI proposal tab  Lips sealed So I can't try it from the rpc for now. How can I find a list of all the current Proposal ID's that I can copy/paste so I can try it from the rpc? There used to be an overview of all the proposals on pool.biblepay.org right?

Ok yes cause I would like to try to reproduce with one that actually throws
Code:
the gov exception error, so one way, is to type:
gobject list all proposals

Could you try voting on the woocommerce one?  98e09d657fb771f1559ab046af76d295ebde16f563d35ff9bc95ff738ae725f7

gobject vote-many objid funding yes

And let me know if successful and also, then try voting on the one you tried earlier and paste the vote string so I can reproduce?

Note that we have not passed the mandatory height yet, but thats another topic (partially related though).
Hi...
I'm on the same. I tried to vote only in GUI, so I've tried it again with command and here is result:
Code:
Error: Please enter the wallet passphrase with walletpassphrase first. (code -13)
After unlocking wallet it passed succesfully
Code:
"Voted successfully 1 time(s) and failed 0 time(s)."
With unlocked wallet I was able to vote also in GUI... so it looks that the wallet must be unlocked for voting... I didn't know about it Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 661
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Mmh so if I understand, to start we need to complete some WCG works BEFORE trying faucet ?
full member
Activity: 1176
Merit: 215
Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
My First Draft of Step by Step Proof of Work Mining Guides

Main:  https://wiki.biblepay.org/POBH_Setup

Windows:  https://wiki.biblepay.org/POBH_Setup_Windows

Linux:  https://wiki.biblepay.org/POBH_Setup_Linux

Any and all feedback welcome!
Ive only ever solo mined so I definitely need feedback
and I need someone to please step through it

Question:
Are RPC config options not needed anymore on the wallet to use the external miner?

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I also need help with MacOS and Raspberry Pi, Old guides:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7id9r9/advice_for_bible_pay_wallet_on_mac/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7qnbp4/bbp_miner_on_pi/

If they use the built in miner, they do still need the basic rpc commands (actually all the old solo mining config options in biblepay.conf still work, like gen=1, genproclimit=20 etc, minersleep=0, those things would cause the solo miner to automatically run when biblepay boots).

As far as the rpc though, if the user wants to manually start mining, they have to type :
setgenerate true num_cores
setgenerate false (to stop mining)

getmininginfo is a little slimmed down now (the pool fields have been removed.  As you know ABN is off, so that has been removed also).

So its basically simplified now. 

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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
Hey Rob, the links work, thanks!, I found one more:
http://accountability.biblepay.org/

Ok, redirected to web where they can find expenses and revenue.

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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
MIP mentioned to me via email that the mobile wallet needs to be updated to 70750, which was just released yesterday at 10am.

Please upgrade and let us know if it syncs to the top height?

Looks like I'm on the latest version, since I have installed the mobile wallet just yesterday. I have checked for updates right now just in case and there was no any updates at all.

Furthermore, something strange is going on with my desktop wallet.



All transactions before Dec. 26th are valid, this large transaction at Dec. 26th is "not confirmed, not in mempool", and in spite that my balance was not zero after this transaction now the wallet only displays latest transaction as my final balance.



Also, where are all transactions (mined blocks) between Dec. 21st and Dec. 26th? May be all that above means that BBP experienced an occasional network fork and I was mining on some secondary chain?... That would be really sad...

I'm sorry to see that you might have mined on a fork and lost some bbp mined off the main chain, but we must move forward.  Ill post my hypothesis.
First, note that in our 2 year history this is the first mandatory where the network required our users to upgrade before the mandatory cutover height.  We had an increase in our governance protocol version to 70750 from 70737, and when 60% of our sancs moved to 70750, the older biblepay clients stopped recognizing those sanctuaries as official, meaning they then need to upgrade early (or go on a fork) - this explains why 75% of our network upgraded 3 days early (we were shooting for Dec 26th and all this happened around Dec 23rd).

So apparently what happened is you mined on the prior version, 1 mil bbp on the low diff chain.  When you upgraded, all the blocks mined on the side chain got erased.  Notice how your outbound transaction to your mobile is orphaned also.  Thats because it was sent on a sidechain, and the txid is not on the main chain.

The reason your last mined transaction is in immature is because its not 120 deep yet but its probably officially mined.

Just run the client with -zapwallettxes=1 and restart and it will fleece the orphans out of the wallet - note it will remove all the mined and the outbound tx and leave all official txes.

Good luck going forward.

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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
Rob, Togo, & Sunk, it appears that my wallet is back in business and I even associated my CPK for PoDC 2.0. Thanks again for the suggestions and assistance. You guys have been busy. Don't forget to rest and enjoy the holidays. Smiley

So I suppose the actual problem then was your IP was in the dns1-4's nodes banlist.dat (probably for 24 hours due to an unforgiveable sin lol, what I mean is something like transmitting a bad block header - which happens if your client is on an old version and mining alone, etc.) and we had to delete banlist and reboot dns1 to get your node to automatically see.  The add ips the others posted might have contained a very old list of nodes that were down.  One other side note, if anyone can get a list of the current sancs, those also work as external nodes for someone in need of an addnode.  (IE masternodelist full; those are all external nodes).   Thats imho, a better practice for us to paste in the future, as we know they are up.  If you do that please post a few IPs that are 40000 (not dynamic IPs) to help the user.  Dynamic IPs dont answer - they are non 40000 ports.

Glad you are up man!  Happy holidays.

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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
There is a wave of censorship for crypto related content in Youtube and other social media.

Could this be a booster for a decentralized media/video content repository?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/efv79l/censorship_in_bitcoin_crypto_media_is_here_time/


Good point.

And as a reminder:  Christian treasure trove, info about the Vatican and false pope, Rapture videos, Christian content, BMS Edge nodes, DSQL, Cloudflare stream, resilient hosting, uptime during the tribulation in local areas, utility (pay to lease or pay to download), NAS based docker build for biblepay and bms and mssql, etc.

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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
Let's welcome the following users to the BiblePay team:

fallen1
uptimeminer
amygdala
jaapgvk
murof
adieslate
jackie1400
Radiant
easyrhino
Tin Tran
MrCoin
dave_boinc
Millerpr
littlebro
Kismar
Tom24


Great, its good to see more than one new user coming in per day again, its been a long time.

Ill look into sending a mass mailing to our 4,500 pool recipients within 30 days. 

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