Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 430. (Read 243386 times)

Hi Guys

I would like to ask something. After I send exec podcupdate I get the message:
03:42:08
exec podcupdate
03:42:57
{
  "Command": "podcupdate",
  "PODCUpdate": "Unable to locate enough funds for this transaction that are not equal 1000 biblepay."
}

From the wallet I use also for MN (MN started today morning)

Getboincinfo is showing:

"Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b",
  "Address": "BQQKNgdp6xYevek2K1PumrG2WvhUqnGQAh",
  "CPIDS": "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 424906,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 54120,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 1144187,
  "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b_ADDRESS": "BQQKNgdp6xYevek2K1PumrG2WvhUqnGQAh",
  "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b_RAC": 29692.83,
  "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b_TEAM": 15044,
  "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b_WCGRAC": 0,
  "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b_TaskWeight": 100,
  "71ab1db88109cd3fa2f798b8a8a2c15b_UTXOWeight": 644479,
  "Total_RAC": 29692.83,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 3799,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 26596,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 1144187,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 8009309,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock List": "53915,53710,53505,53300,53095,52890,52685,52480",
  "Last Superblock Height": 53915,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1144187,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 3799,
  "Magnitude (One-Day)": 3.320261460757726,
  "Magnitude (One-Week)": 3.320636024905519
}

From the Morning I dont have any podcupdate.

Could somebody send me advice what is the problem?

Thank You.

im still dont understand where is transparent link from selling BBP when im asked Rob,in other side he deleted my questions, transparent bank account where Rob sending $/€, where is PR on compassion page that BIBLEPAY sponsoring children?   

@Brian879 and Slovakia

I understand your points. The crypto-space is a place where there are more scams than legitimate projects, so it's understandable that people are suspicious. We can prove them wrong by doing two things:

1. Stay our course and show them by example that we are doing good.
2. Make it easier for people to come see and find out that we're not a scam.

Point 1 is for each individual and point 2 is for us as a community (for instance, by making things easier to verify).

Also, the multisig address is not a grave concern in my view, because the received BBP is quickly exchanged for dollars and spent on the charities. There aren't significant amounts being held for long times. The only example could be my New Exchange Fund (but it's unrelated to charities and people know how to act if I might disappear). I could absolutely make that an multisig address if needed

we wrote together on telegram almost 2 hours and owners and supporters in telegram told/wrote me that BBP is scam    it was ppl from exchange C2CX and telegram chat
they carefully looked at the whole of the coin

very weird

The reason for the discrepancy is not known yet but I am sure Rob will sort it out. Again, I am not doubting the legitimacy of BBP or the number of children sponsored. I just want to make sure the house is in order first as it will be easier to convince others.

Hmmm why the discrepancy? Compassion.com has been around a long time... Hope it is just an error in number lookup or accounting.

Theymos point about not having multisig address is a concern if Rob has a catastrophic malady. There's no backup if no one else has the private key.

I'm not doing anything but reporting on what I have. Do I believe you fabricated the receipts and are not sponsoring the amount of children you say you are sponsoring? No.

Having said that, we can just work together on making sure that everyone can be sure of the same thing. That is all I am saying.

"I don't agree that accountability.biblepay is not 100% provable. Over time, it has been 100% provable." If I was running an elaborate scam, I could fabricate receipts. That's why the only 100% proof is to check with the charity itself. I could argue that anything you provide could be fabricated. Again, I do not believe it is the case.

I do not agree on your "common sense" comment. I believe it is more common sense to be careful, especially in the altcoin markets, than just believing everything at face value...as there is a lot of scam. To make sure the message is conveyed to you, I do not believe BBP is that.

T-Mike emailed someone. I just called the Compassion number and explained that I wanted to check how many children were sponsored under that account # and name and the guy gave me 60. I do not know how he came up with that number, but that's the number he gave me. Maybe you can check with them? Also, could add a note to make it easy for people calling to check that too?

There is no way they can come up with 60, lets have more detailed info on your contact.  T-Mike was successful with 305 plus 3 months of prepaid, so that contradicts your call.

Regarding the RPC, let's make it so the statement of 100% provable by the RPC.  I don't agree that accountability.biblepay is not 100% provable.  Over time, it has been 100% provable. 

So today, you do have enough info to see that we are not a scam.

Don't error on the side of Theymos, which is on the side of ignorance and guessing, it's not common sense to error that way.

Work is underway on making the accountability page more complete (adding BLOOM and CameroonONE, and also give more information).

In addition to the testimonials, BLOOM has mentioned us in a Facebook post:
https://www.facebook.com/Beloveorphanoutreach/posts/1603251943055348

And in their newsletter:
https://mailchi.mp/bceb933b9ea4/updates-straight-from-africa

Both these links will be available on the new website.

Besides this, they have provided profiles of the children we are sponsoring with them that are available on pool.biblepay.org.

CameroonONE currently doesn't have any mention of us on their website or in newsletters, but they have created a 'BiblePay and CameroonONE tumblr':
https://www.tumblr.com/dashboard/blog/biblepayandcameroonone
I also have all their receipts. More is underway.

The new website will have a special 'Charities' page. On this page a short introduction will be given for all three currently sponsored charities with links that prove our partnership, for example links to facebook-posts or newsletters (and we also have the testimonials)

If anyone has more suggestions, please share them!

I agree I always read the inbound letters and reply to the things that the children (or their guardians) talk about. I think it's awesome that we are able to make a difference in this way.

As a sidenote: would you be willing to PM me a short testimonial for the website about how you experience the writing of letters? Or could I perhaps use what you have written? I already have one testimonial, but I'd love to have some more

So I just called Compassion myself and for what it is worth, it was a bit troublesome to get the info but the guy said there was only 60 children sponsored right now? Is there more than this account? ACCOUNT #: 07816292

Could you check with them what happened with the other children @Rob? Also, it would be nice if you could ask them to add a note to the account to make it a little easier to get that info.

It would be nice for the 2 other charities (BLOOM and CameroonONE) to have an official document/statement and/or mention on their websites as just "testimonials" reported by someone are not really a proof of anything.

Nice list Togo! I have all receipts from CameroonONE, if all goes according to plan they will be added to accountability.biblepay.org in the near future

Theymos Response to BiblePay Banner Ad Auction Bid:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40517470

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What Evidence/Proof do we have of 10% Charity Donations?

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COMPASSION INTL
ORGANIZATION NAME: BIBLEPAY
ACCOUNT #: 07816292

PHONE# : (800) 336-7676
HOURS: Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Mailing address: Compassion International Colorado Springs, CO 80997
ORG CONTACT: ROBERT A.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7dtwx8/compassion_charity_accountability/

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"All of our Actual Orphan ID #s are listed in:
http://accountability.biblepay.org/ in Orphan List | Active.

Also, the receipts I posted in EXPENSES are the actual payments I made on my credit card.
I have a copy here in case the IRS comes to my house." -Rob
http://accountability.biblepay.org/

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Testimonials from BLOOM and CameroonONE
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39527580

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Tmike talking to Ginger from Compassion:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39981340

Rob's Scan of Ginger's Pamphlet:
http://pool.biblepay.org/san/mission/CompassionMeetingGinger.pdf

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Compassion International
https://www.compassion.com/

Contact:
Area Director of Donor Relations - ‎Compassion International - Ginger Langehennig
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginger-langehennig-4b31981b/

Proposals:
December - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=53.0
February - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=105.0
March - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=137.0
April - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=162.0
May - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=181.0
June - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=195.0

Pictures:
https://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> Orphans >>> Sponsored Orphan List

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BLOOM (Be Love Orphan Outreach Missions)
http://www.bloomworldwide.org/

Contact:
Executive Director, April Wareham

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=73.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=150.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=186.0

Pictures:
https://biblepaysponsorkids.tumblr.com/post/171897500699/thank-you-bible-pay-the-children-in-uganda-have

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CameroonONE
https://www.cameroonone.org/

Contact:
Director of Operations, Todd Finklestone

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=86.0

Pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fs0ckd8gvjuilko/AACdrA4JyiOhdeZR4DZkpnEUa?dl=0

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Is there any documentation I am missing?

Not sure why, but requires macOS 10.13 or later.

Brian, you make amazing points, all of them. So glad to have you here!

Just wanted to say that and nothing else, because right now I am at a loss of words regarding theymos.

Just gonna add that in the meantime, I think "accountability.biblepay.org" should be way more advertised. It does not provide enough information alone (how to prove documents are not fabricated, reconcile BBP amount sold with proposals, other charities, etc.) but it is a good start.

Yes, you can click on the link in the wallet but that would assume I already have installed the wallet which I wouldn't do before "checking" the coin. I think that URL should be somewhere very noticeable on the official website and in the OP too.

I think he's specifically talking about this wording "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED".

He's right on that point. There are other way other than the RPC commands but the RPC commands alone do not  "PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED". That wording should be modified. It is misleading.

As I said in the previous post, there should be an easier/faster way to prove the legitimacy of BBP other than the pool website.

1) You have to know that the information you want is there (aka it is not just a pool to mine)
2) Create an account
3) Try to find and reconcile the information yourself (including the proposals from the forum, etc)

Not all the information you need is also there such as more info about the two other charities or how to call Compassion to verify the documents are not fabricated.

I also think a mention of BBP on the official websites of the two other charities would be great on top of some sort of official statement/document to prove what BBP does for them.

In the end, there should be way to verify BBP claims in less than 10 minutes.

I'm going to PM him now.  Hes wrong about our monthly volume, he obviously didnt track it.  I believe c-cex has trade history available in the API, and the days that I sold the compassion coins caused Double the volume (not slightly more than) because every coin sold had a buyer.

Hes also wrong about the deceptive nature.  Our RPC command only has the total, but the details are all stored in the sql database, and its pretty easy to reconcile since 95% of our children are 38$ per month (IE each record reverse engineers correctly).

We also had Ginger and Mike Lins statement this month that proves from inception to date all the money went to compassion (which is over 90% of the money we spent on charity).  She also wrote a blurb about our credit balance there.

Thanks for getting that done! It's been a great experience writing letter to orphans. I always read the letters from them first to get a glimpse into their lives, it's really awesome to see the different BiblePay is making in these kids' lives.