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Hello All...

This is eyedoctrader1 writing to you asking for help with a recurring wallet problem...

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post something like this.  I'm not sure how to navigate my way through this forum and within the BBP sub- forum.

I'm having a recurring problem with the auto-staking feature of the wallet.  This problem has appeared several times in 1.1.2.4 back to 1.1.2.1.  I thought with 1.1.2.7 it was gone for good until I checked in to the pool this morning and saw that I was missing from today's superblock.  I've got nearly 30,000 RAC and over 661K BBP with over 3.5 Magnitude.  I don't understand why this should ever be an issue.  When I check the distributed computing tab it shows my UTXOWeight = 2983.  This is the number is always goes to when it isn't showing the correct wallet total balance.  There are no errors in either getboincinfo or getmininghash.  When this problem occurs it leads to two things.  I lose my superblock reward for that particular day (I didn't get today's that came out about an hour ago), and, it shuts me out of heat mining for the duration of the next superblock period (25 hours).  So, I'm being penalized on both sides when I am fully qualified to receive the heat-mined coins and the superblock.  If I wasn't earning over 4K per day on the superblock I might not care so much about this, but $10 USD/day is nothing to sneeze at.

If someone in the know could look into this and help me correct the problem I would appreciate it immensely.  By the way, I am not the only one this is happening to.  When I look at the superblock list I see the usernames of others, like "lichtsucher" who have been sent into the mining dungeon.

Thanks so much for your assistance, and Lord Bless!

---Stephen

Hello and welcome to the forum. Wink

This looks alot like a problem I had several weeks ago and the solution was very simple: I had copied my wallet to other machines for heat mining and on one of them I forgot to put "utxooverride=-1" in the config. The result was that this wallet too sent podcupdates and those rivaled with the other ones from the "controller wallet".
So if this is the case with you it would be a fast solution.

In case you checked all your heat miners and they all have utxooverride=-1 then to be extra sure you could do the following:
Stop all heat miner wallets and only leave your main (controller wallet) running for a couple of days. Regularly check the podcupdates (in "transactions" tab and with "exec getboincinfo"). If there are still strange utxoweights ocurring, then perform the podcupdate manually. For that you have to:
1. "exec stakebalance" --> only proceed if this shows your full wallet balance!
2. "exec podcupdate true" --> should give " performed .... over 1 CPIDs successfully".

Good luck and God bless! Smiley
Hi Dave...
Thx for the reply.  Here is what was in effect last night before the overnight issue showed up:  I am running wallets, identical, for heat mining.  On the second wallet I already have the utxooverride=-1 as the last line in the bible.conf file.  As far as I can tell the second machine is not sending out PoDC updates, but I'm not completely sure.  Since the wallets are the same, would I be able to actually tell on the second machine if it sent out an update versus an update going out from the primary machine?  When an update goes out from the primary, does that update also show up in the transaction history on the second machine?  I would think it would since they are copies of each other.

But, I will go ahead and turn off the second machine for now and only run the primary.  You seem to be implying that the problem with the auto-staking should correct itself reasonably soon??  I don't HAVE to run the second wallet, however, adding it gives me quite a boost in my hashrate which puts me up almost always in the top 10 on the leaderboard.  Many times I'm number 3 behind the other 2 really big guys.

If you have further thoughts please let me know.  Otherwise, I will come back and update again in the next day or so when the problem resolves.  I just wish there was a way to recover my superblock payment from today!  Sad

>>Edit>>>right after posting this I went back and double-checked the .conf file of the second wallet and discovered the override=-1 line was NOT there!!  I know what happened.  A few nights ago when the multiple updates came out and there were other problems trying to run more than one wallet, I copied the entire appdata folder for bible pay from the primary machine over to the secondary.  I never went back in to add the override line.  Ughh!   Also, right after posting this I also found out that the auto-staking was back to normal and my utxoweight was my full balance once again.  So, other than missing out on today's payments, I should be back receiving them beginning tomorrow.  If something else pops up I will let you know.  I hate it when it's little mistakes like this that are MY fault!  (Not that I was ever blaming Rob for faulty code...lol)
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Hello All...

This is eyedoctrader1 writing to you asking for help with a recurring wallet problem...

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post something like this.  I'm not sure how to navigate my way through this forum and within the BBP sub- forum.

I'm having a recurring problem with the auto-staking feature of the wallet.  This problem has appeared several times in 1.1.2.4 back to 1.1.2.1.  I thought with 1.1.2.7 it was gone for good until I checked in to the pool this morning and saw that I was missing from today's superblock.  I've got nearly 30,000 RAC and over 661K BBP with over 3.5 Magnitude.  I don't understand why this should ever be an issue.  When I check the distributed computing tab it shows my UTXOWeight = 2983.  This is the number is always goes to when it isn't showing the correct wallet total balance.  There are no errors in either getboincinfo or getmininghash.  When this problem occurs it leads to two things.  I lose my superblock reward for that particular day (I didn't get today's that came out about an hour ago), and, it shuts me out of heat mining for the duration of the next superblock period (25 hours).  So, I'm being penalized on both sides when I am fully qualified to receive the heat-mined coins and the superblock.  If I wasn't earning over 4K per day on the superblock I might not care so much about this, but $10 USD/day is nothing to sneeze at.

If someone in the know could look into this and help me correct the problem I would appreciate it immensely.  By the way, I am not the only one this is happening to.  When I look at the superblock list I see the usernames of others, like "lichtsucher" who have been sent into the mining dungeon.

Thanks so much for your assistance, and Lord Bless!

---Stephen

Hello and welcome to the forum. Wink

This looks alot like a problem I had several weeks ago and the solution was very simple: I had copied my wallet to other machines for heat mining and on one of them I forgot to put "utxooverride=-1" in the config. The result was that this wallet too sent podcupdates and those rivaled with the other ones from the "controller wallet".
So if this is the case with you it would be a fast solution.

In case you checked all your heat miners and they all have utxooverride=-1 then to be extra sure you could do the following:
Stop all heat miner wallets and only leave your main (controller wallet) running for a couple of days. Regularly check the podcupdates (in "transactions" tab and with "exec getboincinfo"). If there are still strange utxoweights ocurring, then perform the podcupdate manually. For that you have to:
1. "exec stakebalance" --> only proceed if this shows your full wallet balance!
2. "exec podcupdate true" --> should give " performed .... over 1 CPIDs successfully".

Good luck and God bless! Smiley
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Hello All...

This is eyedoctrader1 writing to you asking for help with a recurring wallet problem...

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post something like this.  I'm not sure how to navigate my way through this forum and within the BBP sub- forum.

I'm having a recurring problem with the auto-staking feature of the wallet.  This problem has appeared several times in 1.1.2.4 back to 1.1.2.1.  I thought with 1.1.2.7 it was gone for good until I checked in to the pool this morning and saw that I was missing from today's superblock.  I've got nearly 30,000 RAC and over 661K BBP with over 3.5 Magnitude.  I don't understand why this should ever be an issue.  When I check the distributed computing tab it shows my UTXOWeight = 2983.  This is the number is always goes to when it isn't showing the correct wallet total balance.  There are no errors in either getboincinfo or getmininghash.  When this problem occurs it leads to two things.  I lose my superblock reward for that particular day (I didn't get today's that came out about an hour ago), and, it shuts me out of heat mining for the duration of the next superblock period (25 hours).  So, I'm being penalized on both sides when I am fully qualified to receive the heat-mined coins and the superblock.  If I wasn't earning over 4K per day on the superblock I might not care so much about this, but $10 USD/day is nothing to sneeze at.

If someone in the know could look into this and help me correct the problem I would appreciate it immensely.  By the way, I am not the only one this is happening to.  When I look at the superblock list I see the usernames of others, like "lichtsucher" who have been sent into the mining dungeon.

Thanks so much for your assistance, and Lord Bless!

---Stephen
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I think one issue is the net upvotes required were changed to 10 from 7 a little while back when the corrupt person was copy-pasting.  
But the easiest thing to do is if you give me the "added" timestamp of one of the letters that is not paid yet, and let me specifically check one.  Then I can check the actual business logic.  Note that if it says 'approved=0' that would explain why you were not paid yet (approved get set to 1 after 10 net upvotes are hit).

I plan on adding an indicator that shows how much of the 500K bounty we spent on letter rewards somewhere on the front page so we know when we need a proposal for a refill.

Hmmm, yes on the 'please wait until next month' we were checking for any letters you wrote even if sent; to make this easier I changed it to letters written within 30 days that have not been sent (up to 3), please try now.

So I wrote three new letters, but one of them is not showing up in the list for some reason, although it must be in the system because it says I need to wait until next month to write any more letters.

Also, increasing the upvotes required to 10 may backfire a bit as it doesn't seem like many people vote on the letters.

I also agree with Jaap that it would be great to be able to our own past letters so we can keep track of which orphans we've written to and try to write to them again if we can.

Yes, I agree that would be a good feature.  I think we can make that happen.  We have one more high priority feature however that Luke and Jaap brought to my attention that is not in the pool yet:  We need a grand total paid per month for Charity, this helps people write blogs, and we need a feature that allows non Compassion Charity expenses to be added to the pool for total accountability.  Ill jump on these 3 features asap.

In the meantime, you had a blank letter stuck in the system; cleared; please try again.

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I think one issue is the net upvotes required were changed to 10 from 7 a little while back when the corrupt person was copy-pasting.  
But the easiest thing to do is if you give me the "added" timestamp of one of the letters that is not paid yet, and let me specifically check one.  Then I can check the actual business logic.  Note that if it says 'approved=0' that would explain why you were not paid yet (approved get set to 1 after 10 net upvotes are hit).

I plan on adding an indicator that shows how much of the 500K bounty we spent on letter rewards somewhere on the front page so we know when we need a proposal for a refill.

Hmmm, yes on the 'please wait until next month' we were checking for any letters you wrote even if sent; to make this easier I changed it to letters written within 30 days that have not been sent (up to 3), please try now.

So I wrote three new letters, but one of them is not showing up in the list for some reason, although it must be in the system because it says I need to wait until next month to write any more letters.

Also, increasing the upvotes required to 10 may backfire a bit as it doesn't seem like many people vote on the letters.

I also agree with Jaap that it would be great to be able to our own past letters so we can keep track of which orphans we've written to and try to write to them again if we can.
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On the Pool it is now saying "CPID:   No information is available. Please setup your CPID in account info" for me, despite it being set up.  I'm aware that my RAC is probably fairly low currently after having either turned off or disabled Boinc on the 3 PCs that I use (I have to move them while redecorating), but similarly I expected that I'd still be generating some PoDC payments, but nothing since the 7th June.

I am also apparently not generating any BBP with my PoBH mining (just 1 thread, so I'm not expecting much, but something greater than zero).

I upgraded to 1.1.2.7 yesterday, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference.  Could you look into these please Rob?

can you run exec getboincinfo and paste the result here?

Ah:

Code:
"Warning": "CPID 557d748a659072797daf84734316fd49 not in team Biblepay.  This CPID is not receiving rewards for cancer research.",

I'd presumed that the membership was voluntary, not a requirement...  Readded now.
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On the Pool it is now saying "CPID:   No information is available. Please setup your CPID in account info" for me, despite it being set up.  I'm aware that my RAC is probably fairly low currently after having either turned off or disabled Boinc on the 3 PCs that I use (I have to move them while redecorating), but similarly I expected that I'd still be generating some PoDC payments, but nothing since the 7th June.

I am also apparently not generating any BBP with my PoBH mining (just 1 thread, so I'm not expecting much, but something greater than zero).

I upgraded to 1.1.2.7 yesterday, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference.  Could you look into these please Rob?

can you run exec getboincinfo and paste the result here?
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If you are interested in getting BBP listed in mnode.club masternode monitoring site, please register and vote for it:

https://mnode.club/g/coinvote/BBP

It allows you to have a multi-coin masternode list and it sends you alerts of rewards and when nodes are down! Pretty useful tool.

Thank you!
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On the Pool it is now saying "CPID:   No information is available. Please setup your CPID in account info" for me, despite it being set up.  I'm aware that my RAC is probably fairly low currently after having either turned off or disabled Boinc on the 3 PCs that I use (I have to move them while redecorating), but similarly I expected that I'd still be generating some PoDC payments, but nothing since the 7th June.

I am also apparently not generating any BBP with my PoBH mining (just 1 thread, so I'm not expecting much, but something greater than zero).

I upgraded to 1.1.2.7 yesterday, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference.  Could you look into these please Rob?
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Is it possible that there is a problem with the payout of the letter-writing bounty?

I've written six letters in may (using two accounts), and as far as I can see, only one or two of those letters have received payout and one letter is still in the 'outgoing letters' section.

I would be strange if the other three letters were downvoted, since I think that they were good quality letters (with photos attached to them).

Also, when I try to write a letter now, a box pops up saying 'outbound letter exceeded - Sorry, please wait until next month to write more letters'. On both my accounts, the outbound letter counter says '3', so that's right, but I've written the letters in May, so it should have been reset by now, right?

On the letter: is it possible to see the letters you have sent? It would be good documentation for myself to have an archive of which children I sent what Smiley

Hi Jaap,

I think one issue is the net upvotes required were changed to 10 from 7 a little while back when the corrupt person was copy-pasting. 
But the easiest thing to do is if you give me the "added" timestamp of one of the letters that is not paid yet, and let me specifically check one.  Then I can check the actual business logic.  Note that if it says 'approved=0' that would explain why you were not paid yet (approved get set to 1 after 10 net upvotes are hit).

I plan on adding an indicator that shows how much of the 500K bounty we spent on letter rewards somewhere on the front page so we know when we need a proposal for a refill.

Hmmm, yes on the 'please wait until next month' we were checking for any letters you wrote even if sent; to make this easier I changed it to letters written within 30 days that have not been sent (up to 3), please try now.

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Is it possible that there is a problem with the payout of the letter-writing bounty?

I've written six letters in may (using two accounts), and as far as I can see, only one or two of those letters have received payout and one letter is still in the 'outgoing letters' section.

I would be strange if the other three letters were downvoted, since I think that they were good quality letters (with photos attached to them).

Also, when I try to write a letter now, a box pops up saying 'outbound letter exceeded - Sorry, please wait until next month to write more letters'. On both my accounts, the outbound letter counter says '3', so that's right, but I've written the letters in May, so it should have been reset by now, right?

On the letter: is it possible to see the letters you have sent? It would be good documentation for myself to have an archive of which children I sent what Smiley
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@Lichtsucher: I'd love to have this version in the Ubuntu PPA to use it on my Raspberries. Wink

You are right, I started it right now Smiley
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Hi everyone,

I recently got in contact with a representative from Compassion and confirmed that Biblepay is indeed sponsoring the number of children it says it is.

Below is the E-mail communication:

Hi Michael,

Sorry I was traveling for work this week and am now catching up on emails.  As of Tuesday’s report we show 302 sponsored children in the BiblePay record. Rob says he shows 306. It could be that these 4 graduated recently, moved, and are being replaced with new children in the program as we speak.  BiblePay has pre-paid for its kids many months in advance as well.

Warmly,
Ginger

Here is Ginger's LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginger-langehennig-4b31981b/

Great work TMike!

===

Is This Coin a Scam?

https://isthiscoinascam.com/check/biblepay

Ive updated the owner with last 2 pieces of information,
previous form submissions didnt work, so I contacted the owner on telegram today and he is going to update it Smiley

Please leave a review of BiblePay!

===

"Is Biblepay a scam? Ponzi scheme using the Bible + orphans as its cover?"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-biblepay-a-scam-ponzi-scheme-using-the-bible-orphans-as-its-cover-2389936

"Biblepay Scam - In the beginning 'Rob' created a scam.."
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/biblepay-scam-in-the-beginning-rob-created-a-scam-2408530

These 2 links show up in Bitcointalk section when searching BiblePay keyword,
any good way to reply to these threads?
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Anyone who was testing 1.1.2.6 and had mining problems, please upgrade to 1.1.2.7.

The race condition should be fixed now...

Note in 1.1.2.7 getmininginfo will show something to the effect of "Loading CPIDs" until the wallet is warmed up.

Sorry about the inconvenience.

Yep, starts and runs smoothly now with gen=1 in the config. Running getmininginfo directly after startup gives the new info "Please wait for CPIDs to be memorized..." (besides "Submitting Solution..") which is resolved after a minute or so. Nice work! Smiley


@Lichtsucher: I'd love to have this version in the Ubuntu PPA to use it on my Raspberries. Wink
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I started running BOINC on an Android device a couple of days ago.

It shows up in Your Computers at my boinc.bakerlab.org account, user name zthomasz.

It has crunched some Rosetta tasks (Avg Credit 65, Total Credit 673) but it is not in the Rosetta Unbanked Report at pool.biblepay.org.

Is there anything I need to do to get it listed on at the pool?

First please ensure it is part of team Biblepay.

Next, decide if you want it to share your existing CPID (IE if you have other PCs associated with your wallet and want to add the phone on to that existing cpid).  If you do, just ensure the e-mail matches your other machines e-mail, and then all machines + this phone will tally to your controller wallet magnitude.

If you are sure you want to make it an unbanked phone, with its own distinct CPID, then you can log into the pool, and click Account | Associate Unbanked Device.  Once that is done you should show up in the unbanked report after ~ 6 confirms or so.


I have BOINC running on Windows PCs and Linux servers using the same CPID and associated with the same wallet.

If I want my Android device to be Unbanked, I just attach it to a new Rosetta account with a new CPID.

Do I need to associate the new CPID/Android with a new BBP wallet, or can I use the same wallet that I use for my Windows/Linux devices?

You need to associate it with your account in the pool, but you can use a receive-address from one of your current wallets.

(There is a guide on the new website btw Wink )


Thanks, I knew that. My question is ... Do I need to associate the new CPID/Android with a new BBP wallet, or can I use the same wallet that I use for my Windows/Linux devices?

Wiki guide:
To associate the Researchers CPID with Biblepay, perform the following steps:

    Ensure you have an account with Rosetta@Home, and a CPID
    Launch Biblepay
    Click on the Distributed Computing Association Tab from the home page of the wallet
    Populate "Rosetta@Home" in the Project Name by choosing it from the drop down
    Populate your Rosetta@Home UserName in the UserName field
    Populate your Rosetta@Home Password in the Password field
    Click Associate



When you associate an unbanked CPID with a receiving address using the pool, it actually sets up the core wallet to receive payments to that address as long as that CPID only has ARM RAC (and is a distinct CPID).  So you do not need a new wallet to do this.  (Note: the payments do not come from the pool, this is just a service for convenience since an unbanked user may not have a PC).

So as long as this CPID is ARM only, you can use an existing receiving address and not hose your home machines research income.

NOTE:  Here is the actual warning, of when you can hose your research:  If you build up some rac on CPID X (using non arm PC devices), and associate CPID X from the pool 10 days later, since we only allow the Last instance of the CPID to be honored in the chain, you have now effectively deleted your home PC CPID and its RAC.  So you would effectively Cut off your income and your unbanked income would not work either (since you have PC RAC - making it technically fail the unbanked test).  To unravel this you would just need to re-associate your CPID X at home on a PC (outside of the pool).  The pool is just for ARM-only cpids.





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I started running BOINC on an Android device a couple of days ago.

It shows up in Your Computers at my boinc.bakerlab.org account, user name zthomasz.

It has crunched some Rosetta tasks (Avg Credit 65, Total Credit 673) but it is not in the Rosetta Unbanked Report at pool.biblepay.org.

Is there anything I need to do to get it listed on at the pool?

First please ensure it is part of team Biblepay.

Next, decide if you want it to share your existing CPID (IE if you have other PCs associated with your wallet and want to add the phone on to that existing cpid).  If you do, just ensure the e-mail matches your other machines e-mail, and then all machines + this phone will tally to your controller wallet magnitude.

If you are sure you want to make it an unbanked phone, with its own distinct CPID, then you can log into the pool, and click Account | Associate Unbanked Device.  Once that is done you should show up in the unbanked report after ~ 6 confirms or so.


I have BOINC running on Windows PCs and Linux servers using the same CPID and associated with the same wallet.

If I want my Android device to be Unbanked, I just attach it to a new Rosetta account with a new CPID.

Do I need to associate the new CPID/Android with a new BBP wallet, or can I use the same wallet that I use for my Windows/Linux devices?

You need to associate it with your account in the pool, but you can use a receive-address from one of your current wallets.

(There is a guide on the new website btw Wink )


Thanks, I knew that. My question is ... Do I need to associate the new CPID/Android with a new BBP wallet, or can I use the same wallet that I use for my Windows/Linux devices?

Wiki guide:
To associate the Researchers CPID with Biblepay, perform the following steps:

    Ensure you have an account with Rosetta@Home, and a CPID
    Launch Biblepay
    Click on the Distributed Computing Association Tab from the home page of the wallet
    Populate "Rosetta@Home" in the Project Name by choosing it from the drop down
    Populate your Rosetta@Home UserName in the UserName field
    Populate your Rosetta@Home Password in the Password field
    Click Associate

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So your CPID is in the chain and it cant send a podcupdate, interesting.  

Alright please see if downgrading actually solves it; I only have 1.1.1.9, which should be OK for this, here is the link:

https://pool.biblepay.org/downloads/biblepaycore-1.1.1-win64.exe

I'll check further into the problem.


Before you downgrade please try this and tell me if it solves it so we know the problem:

Boot wallet
Wait 5 mins
Type exec getboincinfo
(Verify the CPID is present)
Type exec podcupdate
(Verify you dont see the error that no cpids exist that you saw before)

Then do: (This means you start the miner *after* exec getboincinfo was called)
setgenerate true 5 (or whatever number)

getmininginfo

Tell me if it mines.  I think the problem is that 'exec getboincinfo' has to be run before 'setgenerate true X'.  If that is the case its a race condition that needs a line of code during boot to fix 1.1.2.6.


Yep, that's exactly it!
What I did:
1. Stop wallet.
2. Change to "gen=0" in config
3. Start wallet, wait shortly.
4. exec getboincinfo was successful
5. exec podcupdate was successful (!)
6. setgenerate true 4
7. getmininginfo showed no errors (!)

Nice troubleshooting. Smiley


btw: it's almost midnight, I'm going to bed now. Cheesy

Thanks a lot for the debugging guys.

So it looks like it was a race condition based on the logic also (caused by moving those prayers to the background thread).

Ok, Im testing the fix now, Ill have 1.1.2.7 out there before midnight tonight. 



Anyone who was testing 1.1.2.6 and had mining problems, please upgrade to 1.1.2.7.

The race condition should be fixed now...

Note in 1.1.2.7 getmininginfo will show something to the effect of "Loading CPIDs" until the wallet is warmed up.

Sorry about the inconvenience.

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