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Fellow investors, I'm off to bed. Please make sure David follows through with his promise to disclose the bay addresses and screenshot of bitcoin received and spent in this venture. This is what we really need to be focused in on and not all that other distracting stuff like the logs or the personal attacks between conspirators.

This should be the one and only question on everyone's mind now. Time to follow the money.
hero member
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Sometimes i'm surprise about this world.

I really missed early altcoins like dogecoin,just fun,nothing special,just fun,with great attractive for non crypto-user. Just a word mouth. And good value.

We have to go back to thoose days.

Every months there are new "trends" and investor jump in.
First funny coin
Then country coin (auroracoin,africacoin,usdecoin,russiacoin,portugalcoin)
Then number coin (42 coin,666coin,12coin)
Then anon coin(dark,black etc etc)
Now new trend is to make a coin with spaceship integrated control, to make transaction between planets. Within human to aliens.

Next?

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sr. member
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If you want those addresses made public, thats fine, but the question is where you want that posted. Otherwise im going to be babysitting bitcointalk which is an enormous waste of time.

Better i put something in r/Bitbay

Might as well post them here for public review like the logs and everything else. If you really never touched them then it will only strengthen your case. Because when it comes down to it, people are still suspicious that this is a money grab for you (it seems to be all about the money with these things and not the coin or the tech), so anything you can do to prove otherwise will help you perhaps improve your reputation and help you pick up the pieces.

This.
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If you want those addresses made public, thats fine, but the question is where you want that posted. Otherwise im going to be babysitting bitcointalk which is an enormous waste of time.

Better i put something in r/Bitbay

Might as well post them here for public review like the logs and everything else. If you really never touched them then it will only strengthen your case. Because when it comes down to it, people are still suspicious that this is a money grab for you (it seems to be all about the money with these things and not the coin or the tech), so anything you can do to prove otherwise will help you perhaps improve your reputation and help you pick up the pieces.
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legendary
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If you want those addresses made public, thats fine, but the question is where you want that posted. Otherwise im going to be babysitting bitcointalk which is an enormous waste of time.

Better i put something in r/Bitbay
legendary
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if you had read the logs, you will notice there was more than one long conversation where they assure me that it was not going to be a pump. Ive got at least 10 more just like the one you saw. I was talking to Steven for weeks before that. So dont tell me about the narrative. I asked many, many times about wether or not they were going to do this. If you mean by early one then yeah i started noticing once the ICO had already started. But each day got progressively worse.

OK... that's just making it worse then.  If you were so anti-pump... then basically you're saying you knew the investors were going to get the shaft and not even get an initial boost of value (artificial or otherwise).  Sorry man, I know you got played - but you got played while thinking it would be OK to play others the same way around - and you leveraged BC in the process - which is like kicking a horse that's already been turned into glue after being skinned alive.  You had the chance to walk (in early logs that you posted)... but you didn't.  You can't call that "protecting the investors" because we knew the risks when we bought in to a non-transparent ICO (and incidentally why I only lost handful of BTC on and it's not like I bought BTC ever).  On the other hand, some people have actually dumped their life savings into this crap... so for them it's not a high-risk gamble/game of chicken... it's deadly serious.

Who you were protecting was Bob, Gekko, Lin, Steven, and most importantly yourself.  

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.  Roll Eyes  As a bit of advice however, I probably wouldn't keep posting logs - despite what I posted in the new thread, which got deleted immediately.  I guess a few BTCs and a lot of blind faith in you and "the team" still aren't worth even addressing any concerns from the people you took them from?   I do (though less every day I'm afraid) believe in the idea that decentralized currencies and markets offer.  However, I can't see backing anything you're involved in again - even if the only 'crime' you were guilty of was being stupid (which it wasn't).  Sorry about that.

notice how i said each day got progressively worse? And trust me, there is no reason for me to post more on it. You dont want this to turn into 4chan lol.

I was protecting literally everyone. Mostly, i was unsure about how exactly to protect investors other than PEGGING the coin.

Which i still intend to do. The real question is, how to pick up those broken pieces, its a big distraction indeed from my coding.



Stop with the bull and give some real answers:

How much bay do you have? Post the actual addresses so we can see if you sold any off?

How much BTC did you get from this in total? Screenshots of transactions for proof please.

You realize everything you keep from this venture is basically theft from the investors right?


Your questions were answered many times, go read all of the logs, i talked to a journalist already too. People knew during the ICO what i had because Bobs team came to me explaining he lied to them and didnt pay them. I showed them the rest of my Bay addresses. I'm happy to prove this moving forward.

What i would like to ask from you is a little bit of patience. I'm trying to pick up the pieces and its still my goal to peg the coin and protect investors. Its not an overnight process. I was preparing an official statement.

... AND if you look on the main thread you will see it was posted clearly chat log describing what everyone got. (This was learned after the ICO had finished and at that point I had no clue how to handle it)
legendary
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if you had read the logs, you will notice there was more than one long conversation where they assure me that it was not going to be a pump. Ive got at least 10 more just like the one you saw. I was talking to Steven for weeks before that. So dont tell me about the narrative. I asked many, many times about wether or not they were going to do this. If you mean by early one then yeah i started noticing once the ICO had already started. But each day got progressively worse.

Hey want some sympathy? Answer this:

How much bay do you have? Post the actual addresses so we can see if you sold any off?

How much BTC did you get from this in total? Screenshots of transactions for proof please.

Why is it you were okay with everyone getting 500-600BTC but only a small amount of that (a few hundred or whatever), going to actual development? No one should have been pocketing money for their own personal use. But you were fine with carving it up like a thanksgiving turkey. All of that is clear from the logs. This money was pegged for the development of BitBay, not whores, coke, weed, booze, cigarettes, penthouses in the sky, debt repayment, loan to mommy, BitHalo developers or whatever else you guys decided to use it for. YOU WERE COMPLICIT IN EVERYTHING. If the robbery goes bad and someone gets murdered, guess what, the driver in the car is going down for murder too.



The bay question has been stated many times, ive got 10%. Ive already shown that it has not been sold. There was no way in hell i was going to sell it. If anything it only made sense to pay bounties. But paying bounties in Bay was a slippery slope considering people might just sell it which is why i didnt consider it.

I wasnt comfortable with it. If you at the time of the chats you can see that i questioned them many times about that. They kept saying whatever they could to get me in the door.

And ive got lots more proof of me asking for devs on a daily basis.

What Gekko did do good was coordinate their contacts. We were in communication quite a bit and he was very responsive. There was actually some work being done on his end.

However, my requests for devs and project managers were ignored and i was told "only marketing matters" and other things later that seriously rang some alarms.

This was all after the fact. The ico had already started and i had to work with what i was given.

And as for complicity, the get away driver doesnt get in trouble when the robbers lie to get into his car and they all hold guns.

But, instead i utilized my own contacts to try and get those things. But it left me absolutely no free time at all. There wasnt a minute i was able to sit down and have free time. Not a single minute. In fact, it interfered with my eating and sleep.
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if you had read the logs, you will notice there was more than one long conversation where they assure me that it was not going to be a pump. Ive got at least 10 more just like the one you saw. I was talking to Steven for weeks before that. So dont tell me about the narrative. I asked many, many times about wether or not they were going to do this. If you mean by early one then yeah i started noticing once the ICO had already started. But each day got progressively worse.

OK... that's just making it worse then.  If you were so anti-pump... then basically you're saying you knew the investors were going to get the shaft and not even get an initial boost of value (artificial or otherwise).  Sorry man, I know you got played - but you got played while thinking it would be OK to play others the same way around - and you leveraged BC in the process - which is like kicking a horse that's already been turned into glue after being skinned alive.  You had the chance to walk (in early logs that you posted)... but you didn't.  You can't call that "protecting the investors" because we knew the risks when we bought in to a non-transparent ICO (and incidentally why I only lost handful of BTC on and it's not like I bought BTC ever).  On the other hand, some people have actually dumped their life savings into this crap... so for them it's not a high-risk gamble/game of chicken... it's deadly serious.

Who you were protecting was Bob, Gekko, Lin, Steven, and most importantly yourself.  

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.  Roll Eyes  As a bit of advice however, I probably wouldn't keep posting logs - despite what I posted in the new thread, which got deleted immediately.  I guess a few BTCs and a lot of blind faith in you and "the team" still aren't worth even addressing any concerns from the people you took them from?   I do (though less every day I'm afraid) believe in the idea that decentralized currencies and markets offer.  However, I can't see backing anything you're involved in again - even if the only 'crime' you were guilty of was being stupid (which it wasn't).  Sorry about that.

notice how i said each day got progressively worse? And trust me, there is no reason for me to post more on it. You dont want this to turn into 4chan lol.

I was protecting literally everyone. Mostly, i was unsure about how exactly to protect investors other than PEGGING the coin.

Which i still intend to do. The real question is, how to pick up those broken pieces, its a big distraction indeed from my coding.



Stop with the bull and give some real answers:

How much bay do you have? Post the actual addresses so we can see if you sold any off?

How much BTC did you get from this in total? Screenshots of transactions for proof please.

You realize everything you keep from this venture is basically theft from the investors right?
member
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I think Gekko deservers a little bit of attention too, don't you guys?
https://m.facebook.com/ryanw2k

Hey what is Gekko's name on this forum?

"Mud"  Cheesy

lol, everyone's name is mud. There need's to be a list somewhere at the top of the page of users to never do business with on this forum. And everyone involved in this coin should be at the top of that list.
legendary
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if you had read the logs, you will notice there was more than one long conversation where they assure me that it was not going to be a pump. Ive got at least 10 more just like the one you saw. I was talking to Steven for weeks before that. So dont tell me about the narrative. I asked many, many times about wether or not they were going to do this. If you mean by early one then yeah i started noticing once the ICO had already started. But each day got progressively worse.

OK... that's just making it worse then.  If you were so anti-pump... then basically you're saying you knew the investors were going to get the shaft and not even get an initial boost of value (artificial or otherwise).  Sorry man, I know you got played - but you got played while thinking it would be OK to play others the same way around - and you leveraged BC in the process - which is like kicking a horse that's already been turned into glue after being skinned alive.  You had the chance to walk (in early logs that you posted)... but you didn't.  You can't call that "protecting the investors" because we knew the risks when we bought in to a non-transparent ICO (and incidentally why I only lost handful of BTC on and it's not like I bought BTC ever).  On the other hand, some people have actually dumped their life savings into this crap... so for them it's not a high-risk gamble/game of chicken... it's deadly serious.

Who you were protecting was Bob, Gekko, Lin, Steven, and most importantly yourself.  

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.  Roll Eyes  As a bit of advice however, I probably wouldn't keep posting logs - despite what I posted in the new thread, which got deleted immediately.  I guess a few BTCs and a lot of blind faith in you and "the team" still aren't worth even addressing any concerns from the people you took them from?   I do (though less every day I'm afraid) believe in the idea that decentralized currencies and markets offer.  However, I can't see backing anything you're involved in again - even if the only 'crime' you were guilty of was being stupid (which it wasn't).  Sorry about that.

notice how i said each day got progressively worse? And trust me, there is no reason for me to post more on it. You dont want this to turn into 4chan lol.

I was protecting literally everyone. Mostly, i was unsure about how exactly to protect investors other than PEGGING the coin.

Going to elaborate here. Many logs already show my interest in protecting investors before the coin started. I asked as many questions i could. I should have used Halo hahahhaa if anything its proof my software should be used even in my own negotiations.

Which i still intend to do. The real question is, how to pick up those broken pieces, its a big distraction indeed from my coding.
sr. member
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I think Gekko deservers a little bit of attention too, don't you guys?
https://m.facebook.com/ryanw2k

Hey what is Gekko's name on this forum?

"Mud"  Cheesy
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if you had read the logs, you will notice there was more than one long conversation where they assure me that it was not going to be a pump. Ive got at least 10 more just like the one you saw. I was talking to Steven for weeks before that. So dont tell me about the narrative. I asked many, many times about wether or not they were going to do this. If you mean by early one then yeah i started noticing once the ICO had already started. But each day got progressively worse.

Hey want some sympathy? Answer this:

How much bay do you have? Post the actual addresses so we can see if you sold any off?

How much BTC did you get from this in total? Screenshots of transactions for proof please.

Why is it you were okay with everyone getting 500-600BTC but only a small amount of that (a few hundred or whatever), going to actual development? No one should have been pocketing money for their own personal use. But you were fine with carving it up like a thanksgiving turkey. All of that is clear from the logs. This money was pegged for the development of BitBay, not whores, coke, weed, booze, cigarettes, penthouses in the sky, debt repayment, loan to mommy, BitHalo developers or whatever else you guys decided to use it for. YOU WERE COMPLICIT IN EVERYTHING. If the robbery goes bad and someone gets murdered, guess what, the driver in the car is going down for murder too.

member
Activity: 112
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I think Gekko deservers a little bit of attention too, don't you guys?
https://m.facebook.com/ryanw2k

Hey what is Gekko's name on this forum?
sr. member
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if you had read the logs, you will notice there was more than one long conversation where they assure me that it was not going to be a pump. Ive got at least 10 more just like the one you saw. I was talking to Steven for weeks before that. So dont tell me about the narrative. I asked many, many times about wether or not they were going to do this. If you mean by early one then yeah i started noticing once the ICO had already started. But each day got progressively worse.

OK... that's just making it worse then.  If you were so anti-pump... then basically you're saying you knew the investors were going to get the shaft and not even get an initial boost of value (artificial or otherwise).  Sorry man, I know you got played - but you got played while thinking it would be OK to play others the same way around - and you leveraged BC in the process - which is like kicking a horse that's already been turned into glue after being skinned alive.  You had the chance to walk (in early logs that you posted)... but you didn't.  You can't call that "protecting the investors" because we knew the risks when we bought in to a non-transparent ICO (and incidentally why I only lost handful of BTC on and it's not like I bought BTC ever).  On the other hand, some people have actually dumped their life savings into this crap... so for them it's not a high-risk gamble/game of chicken... it's deadly serious.

Who you were protecting was Bob, Gekko, Lin, Steven, and most importantly yourself.  

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.  Roll Eyes  As a bit of advice however, I probably wouldn't keep posting logs - despite what I posted in the new thread, which got deleted immediately.  I guess a few BTCs and a lot of blind faith in you and "the team" still aren't worth even addressing any concerns from the people you took them from?   I do (though less every day I'm afraid) believe in the idea that decentralized currencies and markets offer.  However, I can't see backing anything you're involved in again - even if the only 'crime' you were guilty of was being stupid (which it wasn't).  Sorry about that.
newbie
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Also diabolic makes up this retarded lie quote ("Pay me first and I'll do whatever it takes to make more money")

never once did i say anything at all like that ever. nice try.


Zimbeck has entered "panic mode" and is now pointing random people as being shills and paid by Bob. What's next David? I've been in talks with a lot of members from Bob's team, including Gekko and other top players. None of the conversations need to be posted as you keep burying yourself. I've had people who refuse the reward I posted just because they want to see the truth out in public. Keep the logs coming.
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Oh and looks like Diabolic is Gekko. Hi Gekko. N00B account only came on Bitcointalk to discuss this. lol yeah and Gekko was even worse than Bob in so many mays. There is already more than enough proof of that. I doubt you guys need me to state the obvious even further.

So Gekko, if you want to really clear your name then come out into the light and try(that might be cryptos funniest joke of all time). Give out your full name, start being open about your involvement.

Without the risk of turning bitcointalk into 4chan

I think Gekko deservers a little bit of attention too, don't you guys?
https://m.facebook.com/ryanw2k
legendary
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Also diabolic makes up this retarded lie quote ("Pay me first and I'll do whatever it takes to make more money")

never once did i say anything at all like that ever. nice try.
legendary
Activity: 2412
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Oh and looks like Diabolic is Gekko. Hi Gekko. N00B account only came on Bitcointalk to discuss this. lol yeah and Gekko was even worse than Bob in so many mays. There is already more than enough proof of that. I doubt you guys need me to state the obvious even further.

So Gekko, if you want to really clear your name then come out into the light and try(that might be cryptos funniest joke of all time). Give out your full name, start being open about your involvement.

Without the risk of turning bitcointalk into 4chan
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