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Topic: BitBox02 Experiences - page 3. (Read 721 times)

legendary
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April 19, 2022, 10:32:45 AM
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So far I'm impressed (or at least satisfied) with the BitBox02, though I haven't put it through heavy use by any means.  I didn't know exactly how they worked before I bought mine, and now that I've used it I'm left with this question:  Why not just use Electrum instead of having a HW wallet that depends on Electrum, which appears to be the case with the BitBox?
I don't think that BitBox device is depending on Electrum wallet, and they have their own open source application you can use if you want.
It's not the same thing if you are using only Electrum because private keys never leaves bitbox device and they never touch internet.

Oh, and it's way, way too expensive for what you get if you compare it to other hardware wallets.
I don't understand what do you mean exactly?
€119 is one of the cheapest hardware wallets available on market, only trezor model one and ledger s/s+ are cheaper, but it's not a drastic difference.
Trezor one doesn't have a secure element, and ledger is all closed source device that has bunch of problems.
Bitbox is open source and it's based on modified Trezor code with addition of secure element, but I don't like their AOPP stance.
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April 19, 2022, 09:25:13 AM
#4
Why not just use Electrum instead of having a HW wallet that depends on Electrum, which appears to be the case with the BitBox? 
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Edit: DOH!!  I got confused with the Electrum dependence thing--I'm thinking of the Satochip, which I also tried out.  You can tell I haven't used either one that much since getting them.  My memory, it's slippin'.
Is it clear that when using Electrum without a hardware wallet, the key resides on your PC and exposes it to a larger attack surface? Cheesy

Anyhow, I like the size of the device and the display.  It wouldn't even come close to the Ledger's appeal factor (for me) except for the fact that the BitBox code is open-source (which is why I got the thing in the first place).  I'm going to search this section again to see if anyone else has shared their experience with it, but if not I'd like to hear some opinions.  I can't imagine none of the HW Wallet section haven't at least tried the BitBox.
I don't have much to add to what was said above, other than the fact it's worth considering they, as a Switzerland-based company, are heavily involved in AOPP and everyone should make their own judgment on this matter. More on AOPP in this topic.

One thing that I mentioned somewhere else here in another context is that in the past I had created a 'secondary wallet' for someone in the BitBox software and after a few years when they wanted to access it again, it didn't show up. It was very counterintuitive to get it back: we had to 'create a new Bitcoin wallet' again and there the funds reappeared. They appear to be using derivation paths to allow you to have multiple different wallets under the same seed and without passphrase, but the wallet doesn't store or communicate this information to the host. So in practice, if you get a new PC, it 'forgets' that these wallets exist. It was the only 'bad experience' with this wallet, really.

Oh, and it's way, way too expensive for what you get if you compare it to other hardware wallets.
On the contrary, I find it really well priced. It's 119€ with tax included, has open-source hardware and software and they offer a Bitcoin-only version with reduced attack surface. I also like that you can do SD card backups, which the only really cheaper alternatives (Trezor and Ledger) don't have. This feature alone makes it more suitable for friends & family that I don't trust remembering how to handle, store and restore seed words. It's easier for them to keep the SD card safe and plug it into a new BitBox if it breaks, to restore the seed. It's not a replacement for a proper raw paper backup, but it's a really nice addition.
legendary
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April 19, 2022, 02:52:06 AM
#3
BitBox is a sponsor at the Bitcoin 2022 Conference this April in Miami.  I plan to go, and will take a look at their booth (and Bitbox02 as well I presume).  
I just stumbled across this thread, as I recently purchased a BitBox02 and was wondering if anyone was discussing it.  And by the way, did you go to the conference?  I looked and it was earlier in the month, so I'm curious how it was and if you ended up seeing the BitBox booth.

So far I'm impressed (or at least satisfied) with the BitBox02, though I haven't put it through heavy use by any means.  I didn't know exactly how they worked before I bought mine, and now that I've used it I'm left with this question:  Why not just use Electrum instead of having a HW wallet that depends on Electrum, which appears to be the case with the BitBox?  

Anyhow, I like the size of the device and the display.  It wouldn't even come close to the Ledger's appeal factor (for me) except for the fact that the BitBox code is open-source (which is why I got the thing in the first place).  I'm going to search this section again to see if anyone else has shared their experience with it, but if not I'd like to hear some opinions.  I can't imagine none of the HW Wallet section haven't at least tried the BitBox.

Oh, and it's way, way too expensive for what you get if you compare it to other hardware wallets.

Edit: DOH!!  I got confused with the Electrum dependence thing--I'm thinking of the Satochip, which I also tried out.  You can tell I haven't used either one that much since getting them.  My memory, it's slippin'.
legendary
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February 17, 2022, 05:17:00 AM
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You asked this before. In October 2021, you created a similar thread.
Back then, n0nce told you he used one and posted some feedback about it:

I have some experience with this wallet. Very easy to set up, back up, use.
App works well on all operating systems, intuitive and simple, but with enough options like different currency conversions etc.; it also works with Electrum.
Build quality is good, although the screen cover is just plastic (like all other hw wallets I've seen so far), which means if you carry it in your pocket it will scratch up fast. I hope they will fix this in the future, but unfortunately many wallets that have a larger screen, have this issue.
What's quite interesting is the password entry. It's done by tapping the case on either side in specific locations. Compared to the BB01, where the password was entered via the GUI on the host computer, this is much better since you can't write a software that tries brute-forcing it and you can't key-log it either. It's also very hard to e.g. video record (or watch) someone enter the password and properly see what they're inputting, compared to e.g. a two-button input sequence that may be spotted from a distance.
If he still uses it, he might be able to share some more info about what he thinks of it today.
legendary
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February 16, 2022, 05:39:09 PM
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BitBox is a sponsor at the Bitcoin 2022 Conference this April in Miami.  I plan to go, and will take a look at their booth (and Bitbox02 as well I presume).  Miami Ref: https://b.tc/conference

Have any of you had the chance to use BitBox02 (whether the Bitcoin only version or the multi-currency one)?


(I have used Trezor Model 2 and Ledger S, I prefer the Trezor)
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