Topic: Bitcoin Camming Site - page 11. (Read 26586 times)

Everything is automatically converted to the time zone set on your computer

I'll add it to the description, I thought it would make sense to a user everything is fine if I just didn't mention time zones altogether (I have had this feedback before the last couple of days)

How do I decode the schedule times? Right now there is one at 05/21/2012 9:00 by darling.LA. Is that in my own time zone? Or is it GMT? Or some else entirely?
It would be nice if it reported which time zone, or according to my local time, or just plainly said "In 1 day, 5 hours and 13 minutes"

LOL just after I moved it Riush cam onto IRC and fixed everything by rebooting the server. So, the site is backup now on the original host with full functionality.

And back up on the backup host without scheduling mechanism when the DNS resolves.

I reached someone that works with the guy that hosts my site on an open source project and he thought that he mentioned a trip and will probably be home on Monday. So until then it will be backup site. Note that ALL functionality except the scheduling mechanism will work

As quite some of you have read cam4btc is unreachable because the hoster is down completely. I have been unable to reach him so I'll set up a temp server with limited functionality for now. Working on it now.

Sorry for the inconvenience, I am quite bummed out myself too

Awesome!

As for using the website for "tutor" or "learning"... well yes it can be used for that but i think the website will be used for like +90% of the time for sexy things so of course it has to focus on NFSW

Check it out! Cam4btc is 3rd! http://bitcoincounsel.com/charts/mostclicked  

Lol at the discussions you guys. I like people are passionate about this, shows I am doing something right

Let me reply to this by (re?)iterating my vision:

I think people should be able to make money by providing any sort of service for which there is demand in a lightweight manner without paying excessive fees.
I think people should be able to to receive any sort of service and pay what they think is a fair price for this service without without paying excessive fees.

For non-physical personal services (think: entertaining and teaching) I am creating a solution which accomplishes this.

In this approach:

1) I use Bitcoin as a payment system because this is a solution which is necessary to make this work (Bitcoin is not the goal but the solution!)
2) I use a tipping system because I think this is the most optimal to:
   a) let people pay what they think is fair
   b) will also make more money for the broadcasters because of the replication power of computers and the internet. For the same amount of effort your service (e.g. a cam show) can be broadcast to as many people as there are people that are interested. Because of this the amount you need to make per watcher/consumer is far less. Next to this there have been experiments done (mainly at hotels and restaurants) where people are allowed to pay what they think is fair and this turned out to earn the same amount or more then simply charging. With the added replication effect this should result in way more income. Still, please observe that a tipping system is not a goal in itself but a means to an end

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This all being said I'll respond this the individual remarks:

1) Yes there is likely going to be a need to split the list. If only because the current solution does not scale at all. I don't think this is necessary now though as the site is still too small to be split or subdivided internally. Also, there isn't a list full of NSFW, still quite a portion of the time the site doesn't have an active broadcast at all. You say it's easy to split it in two, which is true for me, but it would force users to make another choice which isn't necessary at this point. Next to this, just splitting the site in two is still not particularly scalable as it would need a category system (may be also similar to Reddit) for that. I do like the idea of a split in SNFW/SFW someday as there possible uses of this service which would require the NSFW material to be blocked (think anything to do with children). (btw you say the NSFW listings fill half the stream, it will in the future hopefully, but right now: I'd wish )

You also ask for functionality which would block the complete stream list. if you are serious and want to do something particular with the site that requires that and are planning to actually use the site  at this moment when a categorical system has yet not evolved I'm willing to work with you and create a temporary solution. If not, I won't waste time on temporary solutions and let final ones evolve as the site grows naturally.

2) Like I said I will not be implementing pay to stay now at least because It is quite different form what I believe will work best. I mentioned private channels because that would keep people on my site instead of just using Skype when they want to arrange that but I'm not sure about that either yet.  May be just removing people from your channel is sufficient. You also say people don't want to  "perform" and then find out people have no Bitcoins. Think of the performers on the streets in major cities. They perform also for people that are never going to pay them, others do however which keeps them going. Now think of the scalability this would provide and the low amount of tipping people could do. With Bitcoin it is feasible to tip very low amounts without fees giving the broadcasters an income because there are (potentially) going to be so many of them.

3) Yes, I agree  the girls could give valuable feedback in this situation (I have received some via Reddit PM). Next time I see them I'll ask ENterTheDragonfly, Darling.LA and Dino Rawr to make an account here. If you are on the site and see broadcasters you can help and ask them as well whether they would like to join the discussion.

I think we are all into the idea, but WW realized that this would be mostly used in sexual way, cause that is way the community would go in a webcam situation. He embraced that part of the community and instead of trying to filter it out or trying to stop it. Second this is the way most of the community is using it, and some people in the community use it for other SFW which I have also seen and tipped. I think the NSFW isn't repelling 90%, lets be realistic here it is probably like 5%, the most people online in one room was for one of these girls so lets call a spade a spade. Sex sells and this is just one thing that is taking advantage of that ride to then spawn into other things. To be honest my beef isn't with you but when your requesting only features you would use or that would just take up space on the site, or even worst that destroys the core visions, then I am going to express my opinion about how bad they are, and how stupid these ideas are and how they wouldn't work, that is what this forum is for. Also if I saw a good idea I would praise it.

gweedo it was just so funny that you took me for a cook

I'm a programmer and know how little extra effort it is to have 2 listings rather than one and as WW seams not to be passionate about the girls but rather about his idea in general, he should leave it to the community to use it to its capacity. NSFW links covering half the screen is just repelling 90% of potential hosts.

Lastly let me add that I am testing the site every day since I post here. Maybe I would use my real name or the nick familiar to you in a SFW section.

Thanx for putting the secret cook in me outside the community.

Gweedo, you sound rabid    Relax, we're just throwing out ideas.  More uses for bitcoin is good for the "community" IMHO.  On a separate site is fine, too.  Nobody wants a mess of a site that tries to do everything for everyone.

I AGREED YOU ARE MAKING PERFECT SENSE TO ME

Cause people like this have completely missed the vision of the site! You are trying to get features for a site that would only help you and not the community! I am on the site everyday and I have yet to see either of you actually put on a show, so I think once you put on a show and see it then you can make comments.

Where is Team DeCrypto when we need them? Most of this is for them. What do THEY want? They should be sitting in on these design meetings with their naughty leather whips telling us what to do with our dirty little keyboards.

SafeWord: Satoshi

 

And tutors?  They couldn't have students stumbling on all the porn either...

why you hate cooks?

Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you. This is a cam site, where turn on your cam and earn bitcoins if people enjoy your stream. You are looking to features that would complete destroy this making the site probably fail or make the admin mirco manage the site. I think you should be doing shows to prove that you actually need these features, I think you be very surprised, yet you never did a test run on the site, so I honestly think your opinion of features should be taken with a gain of salt. So stop requesting and actually make a stream and put it on the scheduler so we can all see.

I think that the spirit of the whole thing is better if it's simply tipping. One could eventually add an alternative method of pay to stay and simply let the entertainers choose though. Having both options would probably be best.

my point of pay to stay in general was that some streamers might want to only have watchers with bitcoins. they might want to set a price of 1 satoshi just to know the effort is worth it aka. the spectators are not some jerks in some internet cafe without bitcoins. i guess i would feel pretty stupid giving a lesson on anything finding out only later that they all would pay me in paypal ... but what was that bitcoin-thing?

pay to stay is not pay to enter, so the first x minutes could be free to not be vulnerable to loop-scammers.

with these 2 points i see a pay to stay as a valuable optional addition to the system that is not dumb and should be implemented

WW: what wording would you suggest? broadcaster/watcher as on the button? streamer/consumer? source/sink? sender/receiver? performer/audience? teacher/student? host/guest? actor/spectator?
Some of these options are definitely better than others but I guess strongly supporting some wording can influence the direction the atmosphere on your site will be.

You said it again and again that the channels can be linked directly but for my baking-classes I need yet another feature. You know even with the direct link to the channel those old ladies happen to click at other channels all the time which is really a little embarrassing. Could you allow me to hide those other channels as a configuration of my baking channel? Or at least allow me to open my channel on some sfw.cam4btc.com or send those ... others ... to nsfw.cam4btc.com?

Insta/EasyWallet is an online wallet system. InstaWallet does not actually keep your bitcoins for you, rather, it is a shared pool of Bitcoins. When you deposit Bitcoins, the ones you get back out will almost certainly not be the same Bitcoins you get out. (You have to watch the bitcoin address and wait for them to be removed, then when you withdraw, you get "new" bitcoins.).

My suggestion was to fund a Bitcoin wallet, so your coins automatically get washed and use that wallet to fund your tipping. As good anonymity as you can expect - if you trust InstaWallet to not be the FBI or vomit up log files at the slightest hint of desire for them.