Yeah, the sombitch finally confirmed after about 24 hours. Still not exactly sure why. If it was b/c of a low or zero fee, that's still horseshit. There's alot of confusion around fees etc.
There's no confusion at all. I am exactly sure why it took so long for your transaction to be confirmed, and I told you why. Smooth told you that I told you. He then repeated what I told you and so did DannyHamilton, twice. Why ask a question if you're not going to read the answer? 
Topic: Bitcoin confirmations times are taking over 4 EFFING HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - page 2. (Read 9471 times)
April 29, 2015, 10:12:33 PM
April 29, 2015, 09:45:47 AM
maybe i'm missing something but why a transaction should depend of the previous transaction fee?
The problem isn't the dependence upon the fee of the previous transaction, but rather that the OP used unconfirmed inputs in his transaction. Yes, those inputs were unconfirmed because the fee was 0, but the OP further complicated the matter by using those inputs in his own transaction.As DannyHamilton mentioned, unless a pool is using a look-ahead method to know that by confirming the unconfirmed inputs they will be receiving fees from the child transaction, OP is forced to wait for those inputs to confirm. Since it appears the transactions finally confirmed, everything is good to go.
April 29, 2015, 05:34:19 AM
maybe i'm missing something but why a transaction should depend of the previous transaction fee?
It doesn't but it depends on the previous transaction being confirmed at all.
April 29, 2015, 04:42:40 AM
I just looked at my transaction on blockchain.info and I'm see this:
Estimated Confirmation: Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority) (The transaction fee is less than recommended).
Yet I put the typical 0.0001 fee.
Estimated Confirmation: Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority) (The transaction fee is less than recommended).
Yet I put the typical 0.0001 fee.
maybe the recommandation is based on the lowest fee that is used in the queue
Isn't this like super bad as in one of the main selling points for it as a currency is the short transactions times?
it was already said that the previous transaction does not included a fee, they should fix this to be honest
maybe i'm missing something but why a transaction should depend of the previous transaction fee?
April 29, 2015, 01:37:51 AM
The transaction has now +90 confirmations so I guess we can now close the case.
Yeah, the sombitch finally confirmed after about 24 hours. Still not exactly sure why. If it was b/c of a low or zero fee, that's still horseshit. There's alot of confusion around fees etc.
April 28, 2015, 11:32:25 AM
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This place has descended into a bunch of gullible naive retards,
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This place has descended into a bunch of gullible naive retards,
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I've found that the "ignore" link has made my browsing experience here MUCH better.
I have little respect for the BTC community at this point.
Then you are talking to the wrong people. You should be more careful about how you spend your time.
All of you can go fuck yourselves.
Now who's being immature?
There is little help around, a lot of bitching, and very little intellectual conversation.
I do what I can to help. I try hard to avoid bitching. What would you like to converse about?
I feel like talking to a tree would lead to more intellectual conversation.
If you are wasting your time talking to people that have signature ads, then I agree with you.
April 28, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
A little something for OP: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/adult-plastic-pants-1038896
Most mature post I've ever seen.
This place has descended into a bunch of gullible naive retards, I have little respect for the BTC community at this point. All of you can go fuck yourselves. There is little help around, a lot of bitching, and very little intellectual conversation. I feel like talking to a tree would lead to more intellectual conversation.
April 28, 2015, 07:53:41 AM
A little something for OP: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/adult-plastic-pants-1038896
April 28, 2015, 07:37:06 AM
The transaction has now +90 confirmations so I guess we can now close the case.
April 28, 2015, 01:33:39 AM
There is no world-wide money transfer system that settles transaction faster than those 4 hours. Well, Bitcoin and its clones are most of the time much faster. If you are willing to accept the risc of chargebacks, you should accept 0-confirmation transactions.
I send euro from my bank to the person with the same bank in 1-2 hours.My bank does not need hours to move numbers from one account to another. It's a matter of seconds. In Bitcoin an internal transfer is more like moving the private key from one wallet to another one. Depending on your wallets this process is very fast, too. But this is not what I meant with world-wide money transfer.
April 28, 2015, 12:50:53 AM
Isn't this like super bad as in one of the main selling points for it as a currency is the short transactions times?
April 27, 2015, 10:59:54 PM
I just looked at my transaction on blockchain.info and I'm see this:
Estimated Confirmation: Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority) (The transaction fee is less than recommended).
Yet I put the typical 0.0001 fee.
Estimated Confirmation: Time Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority) (The transaction fee is less than recommended).
Yet I put the typical 0.0001 fee.
April 27, 2015, 10:51:46 PM
Well it's about value and adoption. I'm sure BTC can fix this with updates. But the bottom line is it has first mover advantage and there's room for only one cryptocurrency. Kinda like Ebay.
April 27, 2015, 05:59:32 PM
It is unusual for a 3 btc transaction to be unconfirmed for so long even without a fee. May be all large pools decided to put a quota on transactions with no fee. They want to force senders to pay a higher fee.
If you run Bitcoin Core 0.10 you can ask it what priority would be needed to (usually) get into a block within say 30 blocks (5 hours). I tried to do that earlier but had trouble accessing my node. April 27, 2015, 04:29:14 PM
You're not making any sense. THis is in an online poker site. I xfered money in, played, and now I'm withdrawing and stuck will this bullshit situation.
I'm not making any sense because you keep changing your story.
Clearly betcoin.ag has a bug in their software. This is not Bitcoin's fault. This is not the community's fault.
If you don't like the way betcoin.ag runs their company then you should stop using their services and warn others not to use their services. If people continue to reward them for their shoddy service by giving them business, then they'll have no incentive to improve.
You gave money to betcoin.ag.
betcoin.ag failed to pay you properly when you withdrew money from your betcoin.ag account. Complain to them and their customer service. There isn't anything any of us can do to fix their shoddy code.
April 27, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
It is unusual for a 3 btc transaction to be unconfirmed for so long even without a fee. May be all large pools decided to put a quota on transactions with no fee. They want to force senders to pay a higher fee.
April 27, 2015, 03:58:11 PM
Thanks for your help.
The poker site is betcoin.ag
The poker site is betcoin.ag
April 27, 2015, 03:55:29 PM
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Bitcoin is obviously not for you.
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Bitcoin is obviously not for you.
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Bitcoin is for everyone. Please stay on topic.
You're not making any sense. THis is in an online poker site. I xfered money in, played, and now I'm withdrawing and stuck will this bullshit situation.
Probably because Danny has to guess, a common guess is that you traded goods for the amount you will receive in the future. What online poker site are we talking about? They should definitly fix their software.
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Here's my question- this 0 fee culprit, it has to be confirmed at somepoint unless something else is wrong yes? I mean it's been 12+ hours and still no miner has confirmed it? I'm suspecting something more is at play here.
Here's my question- this 0 fee culprit, it has to be confirmed at somepoint unless something else is wrong yes? I mean it's been 12+ hours and still no miner has confirmed it? I'm suspecting something more is at play here.
Its indeed strange that it has not been confirmed yet, because it has a high (value) input of 3 BTC and thus a high priority, which usually makes it fine to be spend without fee unless you expect the TX to get confirmed fast.
I tried rebroadcasting the TX a couple of times, but aparently it did nothing.
If anyone wants to help:
https://blockchain.info/tx/b5f1a50f10ef314e4e8c6b92e15f1972c1757f78665ab3f3fe7d705b67370257?format=hex
Code:
0100000001dc2128607ae5283e15b5b002c43a799867b68b24fe987e638a4cc9fe3b6df986000000006b483045022100d744b62e6c55ec071b5d69eb627e34b5c3fc57c3e75d5487d348c3a678658cd60220765b40e41996e3f7392b9136819c3babf838d59e14c06fe33c3315e157573b3f012103dcac1a49da49e8068c65aaa99423f634a82fd2e58e340c0a981f01eb2852e417ffffffff0240341d05000000001976a914ca56a7ea835b0d428dc42727962eb0763618083788acc06ec40c000000001976a914ccc82509507c698b9c70db09df033cd9c7ea0da588ac00000000
April 27, 2015, 03:50:39 PM
Yeah this is the culprit -> 1KfncRtWe8ycboDe1BAw4UyFBrgpZRHwpN
What happens if the 0 fee transaction in it gets dropped? Or it can't get dropped?
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Here's my question- this 0 fee culprit, it has to be confirmed at somepoint unless something else is wrong yes? I mean it's been 12+ hours and still no miner has confirmed it? I'm suspecting something more is at play here.
What happens if the 0 fee transaction in it gets dropped? Or it can't get dropped?
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Here's my question- this 0 fee culprit, it has to be confirmed at somepoint unless something else is wrong yes? I mean it's been 12+ hours and still no miner has confirmed it? I'm suspecting something more is at play here.
April 27, 2015, 03:49:01 PM
You're not making any sense. THis is in an online poker site. I xfered money in, played, and now I'm withdrawing and stuck will this bullshit situation.
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