Bitcoin Election - Will Trump release Dread Pirate Roberts - Debate this week

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Quote from: NotATether on December 12, 2024, 08:14:18 AM

Biden just pardoned over 1500 inmates at once. Do you think Ross could be next?

Probably just so to take the thunder away from what Trump said he would do once he takes office early in the coming new year.

We all know Old Joe is up to no good when you see this video which was memed a gazillion times already all over the internet for nearly three months now.

Joe Biden Michael Bay Ultimate Cut 2007 Ending - Linkin' Park - What I've Done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMvYbnfJaOU

"We got information that Donald Trump won by one vote. So Mr. President, can you tell us who you voted for?"

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Biden just pardoned over 1500 inmates at once. Do you think Ross could be next?

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Biden has decided to pardon his son Hunter for these charges set against him in more heinous crimes before he leaves office yet did say he would not. Trust in Old Joe til the bitter end. Keep clutching on your skewed reality.

Now back to what everybody on here is looking towards in our reality:
Trump has been named Person of the Year for 2024!

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/11/time-trump-person-of-the-year-000498
source: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/trump-honored-times-person-year-ring-new-york-116715113

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Quote from: rohang on November 26, 2024, 03:55:19 PM

Judge dismisses charges against President-elect Trump in election subversion & classified documents case

https://theprint.in/world/us-judge-dismisses-federal-indictments-against-donald-trump-in-election-subversion-classified-documents-cases/2374017/

So trump wont be a felon when he takes office in january Shocked

Yes, he will: Trump is already a convicted felon in the New York case. His sentencing has been delayed until after he leaves office, but he is in fact a convicted felon.

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Judge dismisses charges against President-elect Trump in election subversion & classified documents case

https://theprint.in/world/us-judge-dismisses-federal-indictments-against-donald-trump-in-election-subversion-classified-documents-cases/2374017/

So trump wont be a felon when he takes office in january Shocked

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 12, 2024, 05:37:25 PM

Quote from: tread93 on November 08, 2024, 10:21:58 PM

Anyways, I’m Glad Ross is going to be freed!

Whoa, I haven't read through this thread entirely but is it true that he's going to be let out? All of the Silk Road stuff aside, I always thought the murder-for-hire charge was the most serious even though nobody ended up dying--and I've always considered RU's sentence to be overly harsh and intended to be a message to the bitcoin/cryptocurrency community as a whole.

He's a criminal, true, but I don't think his crimes warrant him spending the rest of his natural life behind bars. Not even close.

I agree. He paid his dues. That should be enough.
I think they don't want him out so that no one will copy what he did but let's face it, this era is so damn filled with internet darkness that so many scams had been flying everywhere. Silkroad is not that the kind of heavy metal in illegal things anymore because of the scammy things that has been happening everywhere.
From millions of dollars of rugpulls and that popular exchange site that used popular artists to be hyped and then robbed the money of many people. That may be way worst than what he did.
Sure, he ain't clean but who is? Grin

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Quote from: tread93 on November 08, 2024, 10:21:58 PM

Anyways, I’m Glad Ross is going to be freed!

Whoa, I haven't read through this thread entirely but is it true that he's going to be let out? All of the Silk Road stuff aside, I always thought the murder-for-hire charge was the most serious even though nobody ended up dying--and I've always considered RU's sentence to be overly harsh and intended to be a message to the bitcoin/cryptocurrency community as a whole.

He's a criminal, true, but I don't think his crimes warrant him spending the rest of his natural life behind bars. Not even close.

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Neither Trump nor the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York have responded publicly to the family’s claim, but it comes after the president-elect promised on the campaign trail to commute Ulbricht’s sentence.

So, let's not get too excited...

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Quote from: coolcoinz on November 08, 2024, 03:53:12 PM

Quote from: MeGold666 on November 08, 2024, 04:05:35 AM

But in the end, he provided a free market, and the only reason he received such a sentence was to make an example of him, aiming to deter others considering the creation of a DNM that challenges the government’s monopoly on drugs.

So you admit they amped his sentence to scare off possible followers. The justice system should not work like that, but instead offer fair sentences.
I guess that's why he'll eventually be free and the life sentence will be nullified.

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So if I remotely kill someone by using a drone with explosives I shouldn't go to jail because I was just using my laptop ?
He was a ruthless drug kingpin, entrepreneur with a bad OpSec, a kid with a laptop that Dindu Nuffin.

He didn't kill anyone.
He broke the law, which is why he spend a decade in jail. Nobody is saying that he's innocent, but he doesn't deserve life in prison.

Yeah he wasn’t a killer he just created a free underground market to use to anonymously send drugs to your home address and never have to trace it back haha I have an old friend who used to make dumby accounts and buy mushrooms and stuff but he would always make phony names and emails and what not and he said he has 1000s of Bitcoin he lost access too gone forever! Anyways, I’m Glad Ross is going to be freed!

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Quote from: coolcoinz on November 08, 2024, 03:53:12 PM

Quote from: MeGold666 on November 08, 2024, 04:05:35 AM

So if I remotely kill someone by using a drone with explosives I shouldn't go to jail because I was just using my laptop ?
He was a ruthless drug kingpin, entrepreneur with a bad OpSec, a kid with a laptop that Dindu Nuffin.

He didn't kill anyone.
He broke the law, which is why he spend a decade in jail. Nobody is saying that he's innocent, but he doesn't deserve life in prison.

If it hadn’t been a scammer who robbed him but an actual gang member, the assassinations would have been real.

He isn’t a killer only because someone was smarter than him and simply scammed him out of his money.

It’ll be nice to see him free because, fuck the system, but let’s not kid ourselves - he’s not a nice guy and is ~~probably~~ a hidden psychopath.

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Quote from: MeGold666 on November 08, 2024, 04:05:35 AM

But in the end, he provided a free market, and the only reason he received such a sentence was to make an example of him, aiming to deter others considering the creation of a DNM that challenges the government’s monopoly on drugs.

So you admit they amped his sentence to scare off possible followers. The justice system should not work like that, but instead offer fair sentences.
I guess that's why he'll eventually be free and the life sentence will be nullified.

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So if I remotely kill someone by using a drone with explosives I shouldn't go to jail because I was just using my laptop ?
He was a ruthless drug kingpin, entrepreneur with a bad OpSec, a kid with a laptop that Dindu Nuffin.

He didn't kill anyone.
He broke the law, which is why he spend a decade in jail. Nobody is saying that he's innocent, but he doesn't deserve life in prison.

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Quote from: rdbase on September 28, 2024, 07:25:15 AM

Let's hope if the right president gets elected they will do the right thing and free ross!

https://x.com/PubKey_NYC/status/1836526634561675743

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/11/08/cybercriminal-ross-ulbrichts-family-says-hell-be-freed-in-january-heres-what-we-know

Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 10:23:29 PM

I can’t say this is the reason I think Trump should be President, but it is a nice little bit of icing on the cake to know that if he does get elected he will free Ross finally after all these years. I think pretty much everyone agrees that Ross has served more than his share of time and deserves to be back home with his family.

Don't believe there is anyone who frequented this forum since when he was arrested would disagree he shouldn't be freed.
Even the official X account from the Free_Ross family has thanked President Trump for freeing their son right after his win:

https://x.com/free_ross/status/1854560687713927541?s=12

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Quote from: coolcoinz on November 07, 2024, 03:17:09 PM

The main problem is he was treated like a criminal mastermind. Like a narco boss who profited from every drug sale. They treated him like every crime committed with the help of his website was his doing, which is why he got life.

He profited from every sale - that's how every DNM works. He was a narco boss, that's why he had so many Bitcoins and was scammed into paying thousands of coins for assassinations that were all fake.

This contract transactions can be forever viewed on the blockchain Wink

But in the end, he provided a free market, and the only reason he received such a sentence was to make an example of him, aiming to deter others considering the creation of a DNM that challenges the government’s monopoly on drugs.

This is how it went:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMP6Nh3FvU

Quote from: coolcoinz on November 07, 2024, 03:17:09 PM

All that for using a laptop.

So if I remotely kill someone by using a drone with explosives I shouldn't go to jail because I was just using my laptop ?
He was a ruthless drug kingpin, entrepreneur with a bad OpSec, a kid with a laptop that Dindu Nuffin.

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Quote from: shield132 on November 07, 2024, 05:57:59 AM

I don't know if I missed something but why do people want to release Dread Pirate Roberts to be free? He created a darknet market where lots of illegal materials were traded, shouldn't such a person be punished? Or is there something good that he really did and deserves to be free?

Yes, he should be punished, I don't think you'll find many people who think he should have been let go with a warning back when the first arrest was made. The deal is, he was arrested and punished.
What do you think is a fair sentence in his case?

The main problem is he was treated like a criminal mastermind. Like a narco boss who profited from every drug sale. They treated him like every crime committed with the help of his website was his doing, which is why he got life. I'd argue that law shouldn't work this way. The person who makes a gun, or sells it to someone, should not be blamed for crimes committed with that weapon. It's the same with Ross, as he did not take part in any of the drug sales, but made a site that allowed people to transact in any way they wanted. He knew drugs were being sold and did not care as long as the money kept coming, which is why he should receive a prison sentence... but life in prison is not a normal sentence. It's as extreme as it gets. It's basically the judge saying he'd kill you if he could, but since they're not allowing him to put you on death row he's going to do the next best thing. All that for using a laptop.

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Quote from: rdbase on November 07, 2024, 05:31:28 AM

Quote from: aoluain on November 07, 2024, 03:47:54 AM

Indeed - lets wait an see but as promised it neds to happen today!

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“And if you vote for me, on Day One, I will commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht,” the former
president said, generating cheers from the audience, moments after mentioning his plans to
pardon supporters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/25/trump-commute-ross-ulbricht-sentence-libertarian-convention-00160025

I'm sure Ross has thought over the last 12 years on imprisonment that at some stage someone would
come along with the power to look favourably on his incarceration and he must have been ecstatic when
Trump stated the above and then recently praying for Trump to be elected

Now he is on the edge of his seat with his belongings packed ready to walk out free . . .

Will have to be wait until the new year since nothing can be done before being sworn in.
So Ross will have to wait another month and a few more days where he is until he is set free.
That is if Trump will keep his word to all bitcoiners of being one of the things done from that long list of promises made.

Yes of course, I got off to a flying start with my statement, but yes It will
be interesting to see what happens in the new year.

Quote from: shield132 on November 07, 2024, 05:57:59 AM

I don't know if I missed something but why do people want to release Dread Pirate Roberts to be free? He created a darknet market where lots of illegal materials were traded, shouldn't such a person be punished? Or is there something good that he really did and deserves to be free?

He created an anonymous e-commerce marketplace not with the intention that it would be
used for trafficking illegal goods and services.

He got a life without parole sentence for that, totally OTT and he was definitely made
an example of, probably the involvement of Bitcoin was a major contributory factor
to his sentencing.

More info > https://freeross.org/

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I don't know if I missed something but why do people want to release Dread Pirate Roberts to be free? He created a darknet market where lots of illegal materials were traded, shouldn't such a person be punished? Or is there something good that he really did and deserves to be free?

Quote from: paid2 on June 25, 2024, 04:41:34 AM

Lol : "A vote for Trump means Ross could be free"

It's not far from begging votes at that level.

"The Bitcoin Historian" should remind us where Ross slept and spent his time, during Trump's years in White House?

Edit: Apparently cynicism is not understood by all here, I was implying that Trump already had the opportunity to free him when he was President; and that trying to scrape up votes like that now is ridiculous Roll Eyes

You said it well, that's begging votes. He could free him when he was in the White House, as well as Kamala Harris could improve the economy during Biden's administration but they give away these promises when the Presidential Elections are near. Many of us know that voting for any of the two candidates means voting for less evil because both part is evil but it's sad that many people really believe their lies.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 07, 2024, 03:47:54 AM

Indeed - lets wait an see but as promised it neds to happen today!

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“And if you vote for me, on Day One, I will commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht,” the former
president said, generating cheers from the audience, moments after mentioning his plans to
pardon supporters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/25/trump-commute-ross-ulbricht-sentence-libertarian-convention-00160025

I'm sure Ross has thought over the last 12 years on imprisonment that at some stage someone would
come along with the power to look favourably on his incarceration and he must have been ecstatic when
Trump stated the above and then recently praying for Trump to be elected

Now he is on the edge of his seat with his belongings packed ready to walk out free . . .

Will have to be wait until the new year since nothing can be done before being sworn in.
So Ross will have to wait another month and a few more days where he is until he is set free.
That is if Trump will keep his word to all bitcoiners of being one of the things done from that long list of promises made.

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Indeed - lets wait an see but as promised it neds to happen today!

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“And if you vote for me, on Day One, I will commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht,” the former
president said, generating cheers from the audience, moments after mentioning his plans to
pardon supporters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/25/trump-commute-ross-ulbricht-sentence-libertarian-convention-00160025

I'm sure Ross has thought over the last 12 years on imprisonment that at some stage someone would
come along with the power to look favourably on his incarceration and he must have been ecstatic when
Trump stated the above and then recently praying for Trump to be elected

Now he is on the edge of his seat with his belongings packed ready to walk out free . . .

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Now let's see how much word of Donald J. Trump is worth.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 28, 2024, 10:23:29 PM

I can’t say this is the reason I think Trump should be President, but it is a nice little bit of icing on the cake to know that if he does get elected he will free Ross finally after all these years. I think pretty much everyone agrees that Ross has served more than his share of time and deserves to be back home with his family.

Yeah, I think so too, Ross deserves to be freed whoever win the presidency. It should not just be Trump who will promise this but maybe the opponent don't want to use it anymore since it's already scratched by him. Still, it could gain a lot of support from Bitcoin maximalist and other cryptocurrency supporters.

Donald Trump Reaffirms Support for Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht
https://www.coinspeaker.com/donald-trump-reaffirms-support-ross-ulbricht/

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Trump’s Pledge to Free Ulbricht: A Political Move or Genuine Support?
Trump took to his Truth Social page to maintain his stance that he will save Ulbricht. His declaration comes after Ulbricht wrote on his X account, which is managed by his family, that Tuesday marks the beginning of his 12th year in prison. In response to the post, Trump shared a screenshot of it on Truth Social, declaring:

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