Topic: Bitcoin Election - Will Trump release Dread Pirate Roberts - Debate this week (Read 1234 times)

Yeah, I think so too, Ross deserves to be freed whoever win the presidency. It should not just be Trump who will promise this but maybe the opponent don't want to use it anymore since it's already scratched by him. Still, it could gain a lot of support from Bitcoin maximalist and other cryptocurrency supporters.

Donald Trump Reaffirms Support for Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht
https://www.coinspeaker.com/donald-trump-reaffirms-support-ross-ulbricht/

I can’t say this is the reason I think Trump should be President, but it is a nice little bit of icing on the cake to know that if he does get elected he will free Ross finally after all these years. I think pretty much everyone agrees that Ross has served more than his share of time and deserves to be back home with his family.

Let's hope if the right president gets elected they will do the right thing and free ross!

https://x.com/PubKey_NYC/status/1836526634561675743

I will be interested to see the topic of Bitcoin coming up tomorrow on Trump vs. Harris debate tomorrow night at 9pm eastern time. I forget which news channel exactly is hosting but I’m sure that it will come up and I’m sure we all know what each party will say. It’s just quite historic being brought up so much in politics these days.

I watched the previous debate and neither Trump nor Biden mentioned crypto once, but that's understandable since it's not an issue that many US voters care about.

So far, we cannot determine exactly whether the candidates are really in favor of cryptocurrency or they are just using it to attract voters to their side, we need to wait for the election to end.


Trump has promised a lot of things about crypto, not just pardoning Ross Ulbricht or firing Gary, and I don't think he'll do all of those things. But at least we know that he seems more open to crypto than the Democratic candidate. That means we still have hope if we support him, meanwhile, we see Harris barely mention crypto, she completely ignores us because she doesn't take us seriously.

Donald Trumps has so much been acting like a descended angel sent from above to rescue the earth by his numerous and potential unfulfillable promises.

Ross Ulbricht was arrested in 2013 and Donald Trumps was present in 2017-2021 and there had been advocate approaches of supporters calling on the presidencies  attention to release him but Donald Trumps and his Co. administration was adamant to the appeals.
So why now he is running for a second tenure under the blanket of his electoral campaigns he could get him out?

In a political bloom does Trump don't think his motion to release Ross Ulbricht in the commentary of his campaign could turn against him atleast regardless the outbreaks commitment of Ross Ulbricht?

Does he even think Bitcoin supporters was welcomed that Ross used Bitcoin to execute his illegal transactions in the first place? Because what is sensed here is that he is actually begging for votes in other to do the peoples wills. Perhaps that is one of the scenarios speculating Bitcoin is a digital technology to run illegal transactions which Ross accusations were all one of the sabotage to what tinted Bitcoin as a tool of illegalities.
But though I am not against his freedom which I believe he must had learnt t his lessons in a hard way all these while he has been in detention.

I wish him Donald Trumps victory and let us sit and watch him perform those wonders when the day comes.

I don’t remember crypto being talked about in the Trump vs. Biden debate. I doubt that it will come up when Trump debates Harris. Crypto will not be the deciding issue that determines the election, but with the amount of spending by super PACs backed by the industry it is important enough for candidates like Trump and RFK to pay attention and appeal to crypto enthusiasts. Whether or not crypto is being talked about, more pro-crypto candidates are being elected due to the amount of money they are raising.

Trump will probably not pardon Ross Ulbricht on day 1, like he promised, but he might do it eventually because he is a populist seeking to improve his image with voters. He is also a businessman who, along with his family, will be launching a DeFi platform. This is certainly good publicity for his crypto businesses. In contrast, Harris is a textbook politician. She is being more cold, calculated, and sticking to the script given to her by her party’s leadership. Since money is what determines political agendas, I believe crypto will become more of a bipartisan issue. Harris and the Democrats will have to adopt friendlier policies to remain competitive.

Donald Trump has expressed his views on cryptocurrencies on several occasions. In some of his statements, he showed a negative opinion towards cryptocurrencies, as he considered them a threat to the US currency, the dollar. He also criticized the idea of ​​virtual currencies and considered that the matter requires greater regulation. This discrepancy in his positions clearly expresses his hesitation to take a precise position, as his political position was the determinant of his views each time. That is, when he was in power, he was not enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies and considered them a threat, then after leaving the White House and rejoining the race for the next presidential elections, he began to express his positive aspirations regarding them and made promises to provide greater legal and regulatory cover.

At the recent Bitcoin conference in Nashville, Trump's intervention was not significant, although the conference itself gained increased attention due to Trump's invitation to it. Many are still convinced that Trump is seeking to gain an electoral base that supports him as a presidential candidate, and I do not think that the crypto community really trusts his promises, no matter how easy they seem to achieve.

From a personal point of view, I believe that the opinion on cryptocurrencies will remain mixed, as some see them as the future of money, while others see them as a bubble or a speculative tool. In the United States in particular, it is unfortunate that the crypto space has turned from an emerging market that promises further development opportunities, into an electoral tool used by politicians according to their narrow interests. I also believe that the position of the Democrats is more transparent and consistent with the party’s policies, which do not trust cryptocurrencies and originally avoid engaging in them, even though this may help them in the electoral campaign to win the presidency.

In case people wondering what is the judgement made by US government regarding his case they can read it in this site https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ross-ulbricht-aka-dread-pirate-roberts-sentenced-life-federal-prison-creating

Although the sentence is bit harsh for him but I guess its time for the government to look at his case and check if he do well in prison. Since I still think that everyone deserve a second chance and I think Ross Ulbricht still deserve to consider. Maybe government could use his talent and able to track more illegal online activities. But still government has final say if they are already close with this chapter and think about he still deserve to rot on jail then I guess he can't do anything with it.

This had happened many years ago and all aspects of his case have been laid out enough that they even made several movies about the events leading up to his conviction and then arrest.

I had a post early on in this thread about one of those more popular movies yet not too accurate because it is hollywood afterall:

Ross Ulbricht was not convicted of murder for hire or attempted murder because the charges were dropped by the US attorney. But it was used as a media war against Ross and one can assume that it indirectly contributed to the harsh sentence he received. Portraying him as a murderous drug kingpin has also affected the support he is getting for the commuting of his sentence.

No doubt his creation (Silk Road) caused some level of harm to society but it was not all about drugs; it was also about privacy and freedom. I think he deserves a second chance because even convicted mass murderers have received lighter sentences. He has shown remorse and teaches maths and yoga in prison. Ross is also helping inmates to get out of drugs.

I also didnt know much about Ross until perhaps last month when some Youtube video showed up saying how he was tricked. After being involved in crypto for almost 10 years, I finally learnt what happened to him.

For those that dont know. There was someone scamming him for BTC. He also pretended to know of a hitman to get rid of someone who wants to leak some Silkroad member info. Ross didn't want this info leaked so he paid the hitman, however nobody was actually murdered, the individual was pretending. And this is what got him the long jail sentence. Because even though nobody actually died,  he still was willing to commit the crime.

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Exact samething is happening to Pavel Durov a CEO of a platform where they took him into custody blaming him for what others are doing on telegram.
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/8/28/a-dangerous-precedent-telegram-ceos-arrest-a-new-front-in-war-over-speech

Luckily he is out of custody and infront of a judge where they are in talks of what charges he will face:
https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/08/28/french-prosecutors-set-to-charge-or-release-telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-on-wednesday

You can remember someone else who was in a similar situation who helped promote bitcoin's use scale in it's infancy?

Julian Assange -https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/6/26/history-illustrated-julian-assange-is-set-free

I have been very split on the whole “Free Ross” movement. One one hand Im all for less government and free markets, less laws (the war on drugs has been a massive disaster inside the United States), and I share a lot of Ross’s sentiments around this.

Silk Road’s effect on Bitcoin can’t be overstated. It did A LOT to bring Bitcoin to where it’s gotten, whether that was in a good or bad light.

On the other hand I’ve watched quite a few documentaries on Silk and Ross and it seems clear he deserves a healthy jail sentence and if he truly did hire a hitman (if true of course he was scammed in doing so) I don’t think he’s should ever be released. But , many claim this is propaganda against him and isn’t true

Any fans of Mr Robot (amazing television show) surely picked up on this, a clear Silk Road nod -   https://youtu.be/8qy2NqxKINc?si=IM0sw59nO0mVx5gm (just thought I’d share)

Advocating for a named candidate to win an election, which this thread absolutely is doing, is... politics.

And if you advocate for a candidate, you own everything that candidate is for, not just the one thing you happen to want from that candidate.

While it seems paradoxical, I continue to advocate that the Bitcoin community stay out of US partisan politics because there's simply no way to get near it without touching the extreme political polarization we have here. Trump is promising to change the lives of every single American in drastic ways if he is elected. Maybe you think that is what should happen, and that's a debate one can have. But the minute you bring in one of our political poles, that's the debate.

Bro, this is mostly an attack to the presidential candidates and not about what they will say during or after the debate. We want their platforms and one of them is letting Dread Pirate Roberts go. (which is why this thread is created)
I don't really care about them being senile or anything. I want to hear what they are planning to do with Ross (updates) and not about how old they are and that is why I am excited about the next debate that will happen against Kamala.

Look, you could put all this in the politics board and many forum members can answer you about those but here it's off topic because this thread will only be filled by those kind of things instead of the link about Ross.
Surely, you will find it amusing there in the politics board with so many members also talking about them.

I warned you on another of my threads now you are doing the exact same on this one.
Go promote your pump and dump shilly shitcoin if you have nothing else better to do.


Go create fud to your own threads on the politics child board.

Here's Trump the other day ranting about electric cars and sharks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZsSb6g6QLg&t=408s

Totally. Senile.

He did not say he will pardon his sentence but commute (lower).

He may as well lower his sentence from "double life plus 40 years without parole" to "double life plus 20 years without parole".

Trump used his last presidency to line his own pockets, and he has shown, repeatedly through his life, that he does not care about anybody but his own enrichment and he's willing to sacrifice the entire country in order to make himself a little more money.

Think of that when you learn that Trump is getting himself, personally, into the crypto business. Imagine yourself competing with the President of the United States and the US government which he completely controls.

Go ask a Russian if they want to get into a business that Putin is already in.

Go ask a Chinese entrepreneur if they think it would be cool to compete with the CCP in their business.

That's what we would be up against if Trump wins. Outlawing Bitcoin and replacing it with Trump's own currency (his personal company, not the government's) would be very easy for Trump to do and would make him the richest man on the planet.

The safe thing for the business right now is to go with what we know has worked, even if it's not "perfect". In other words, Harris.

Trump promises nothing but disaster.