Topic: Bitcoin Election - Will Trump release Dread Pirate Roberts - Debate this week - page 3. (Read 2211 times)

Yeah he wasn’t a killer he just created a free underground market to use to anonymously send drugs to your home address and never have to trace it back haha I have an old friend who used to make dumby accounts and buy mushrooms and stuff but he would always make phony names and emails and what not and he said he has 1000s of Bitcoin he lost access too gone forever! Anyways, I’m Glad Ross is going to be freed!

If it hadn’t been a scammer who robbed him but an actual gang member, the assassinations would have been real.

He isn’t a killer only because someone was smarter than him and simply scammed him out of his money.

It’ll be nice to see him free because, fuck the system, but let’s not kid ourselves - he’s not a nice guy and is probably a hidden psychopath.

So you admit they amped his sentence to scare off possible followers. The justice system should not work like that, but instead offer fair sentences.
I guess that's why he'll eventually be free and the life sentence will be nullified.
 

He didn't kill anyone.
He broke the law, which is why he spend a decade in jail. Nobody is saying that he's innocent, but he doesn't deserve life in prison.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/11/08/cybercriminal-ross-ulbrichts-family-says-hell-be-freed-in-january-heres-what-we-know

Don't believe there is anyone who frequented this forum since when he was arrested would disagree he shouldn't be freed.
Even the official X account from the Free_Ross family has thanked President Trump for freeing their son right after his win:

https://x.com/free_ross/status/1854560687713927541?s=12

He profited from every sale - that's how every DNM works. He was a narco boss, that's why he had so many Bitcoins and was scammed into paying thousands of coins for assassinations that were all fake.

This contract transactions can be forever viewed on the blockchain  

But in the end, he provided a free market, and the only reason he received such a sentence was to make an example of him, aiming to deter others considering the creation of a DNM that challenges the government’s monopoly on drugs.

This is how it went:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMP6Nh3FvU


So if I remotely kill someone by using a drone with explosives I shouldn't go to jail because I was just using my laptop ?
He was a ruthless drug kingpin, entrepreneur with a bad OpSec, a kid with a laptop that Dindu Nuffin.

Yes, he should be punished, I don't think you'll find many people who think he should have been let go with a warning back when the first arrest was made. The deal is, he was arrested and punished.
What do you think is a fair sentence in his case?

The main problem is he was treated like a criminal mastermind. Like a narco boss who profited from every drug sale. They treated him like every crime committed with the help of his website was his doing, which is why he got life. I'd argue that law shouldn't work this way. The person who makes a gun, or sells it to someone, should not be blamed for crimes committed with that weapon. It's the same with Ross, as he did not take part in any of the drug sales, but made a site that allowed people to transact in any way they wanted. He knew drugs were being sold and did not care as long as the money kept coming, which is why he should receive a prison sentence... but life in prison is not a normal sentence. It's as extreme as it gets. It's basically the judge saying he'd kill you if he could, but since they're not allowing him to put you on death row he's going to do the next best thing. All that for using a laptop.

Yes of course, I got off to a flying start with my statement, but yes It will
be interesting to see what happens in the new year.


He created an anonymous e-commerce marketplace not with the intention that it would be
used for trafficking illegal goods and services.

He got a life without parole sentence for that, totally OTT and he was definitely made
an example of, probably the involvement of Bitcoin was a major contributory factor
to his sentencing.

More info > https://freeross.org/

I don't know if I missed something but why do people want to release Dread Pirate Roberts to be free? He created a darknet market where lots of illegal materials were traded, shouldn't such a person be punished? Or is there something good that he really did and deserves to be free?

You said it well, that's begging votes. He could free him when he was in the White House, as well as Kamala Harris could improve the economy during Biden's administration but they give away these promises when the Presidential Elections are near. Many of us know that voting for any of the two candidates means voting for less evil because both part is evil but it's sad that many people really believe their lies.

Will have to be wait until the new year since nothing can be done before being sworn in.
So Ross will have to wait another month and a few more days where he is until he is set free.
That is if Trump will keep his word to all bitcoiners of being one of the things done from that long list of promises made.

Indeed - lets wait an see but as promised it neds to happen today!


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/25/trump-commute-ross-ulbricht-sentence-libertarian-convention-00160025

I'm sure Ross has thought over the last 12 years on imprisonment that at some stage someone would
come along with the power to look favourably on his incarceration and he must have been ecstatic when
Trump stated the above and then recently praying for Trump to be elected

Now he is on the edge of his seat with his belongings packed ready to walk out free . . .

Now let's see how much word of Donald J. Trump is worth.

Yeah, I think so too, Ross deserves to be freed whoever win the presidency. It should not just be Trump who will promise this but maybe the opponent don't want to use it anymore since it's already scratched by him. Still, it could gain a lot of support from Bitcoin maximalist and other cryptocurrency supporters.

Donald Trump Reaffirms Support for Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht
https://www.coinspeaker.com/donald-trump-reaffirms-support-ross-ulbricht/

I can’t say this is the reason I think Trump should be President, but it is a nice little bit of icing on the cake to know that if he does get elected he will free Ross finally after all these years. I think pretty much everyone agrees that Ross has served more than his share of time and deserves to be back home with his family.

Let's hope if the right president gets elected they will do the right thing and free ross!

https://x.com/PubKey_NYC/status/1836526634561675743

I will be interested to see the topic of Bitcoin coming up tomorrow on Trump vs. Harris debate tomorrow night at 9pm eastern time. I forget which news channel exactly is hosting but I’m sure that it will come up and I’m sure we all know what each party will say. It’s just quite historic being brought up so much in politics these days.

I watched the previous debate and neither Trump nor Biden mentioned crypto once, but that's understandable since it's not an issue that many US voters care about.

So far, we cannot determine exactly whether the candidates are really in favor of cryptocurrency or they are just using it to attract voters to their side, we need to wait for the election to end.


Trump has promised a lot of things about crypto, not just pardoning Ross Ulbricht or firing Gary, and I don't think he'll do all of those things. But at least we know that he seems more open to crypto than the Democratic candidate. That means we still have hope if we support him, meanwhile, we see Harris barely mention crypto, she completely ignores us because she doesn't take us seriously.

Donald Trumps has so much been acting like a descended angel sent from above to rescue the earth by his numerous and potential unfulfillable promises.

Ross Ulbricht was arrested in 2013 and Donald Trumps was present in 2017-2021 and there had been advocate approaches of supporters calling on the presidencies  attention to release him but Donald Trumps and his Co. administration was adamant to the appeals.
So why now he is running for a second tenure under the blanket of his electoral campaigns he could get him out?

In a political bloom does Trump don't think his motion to release Ross Ulbricht in the commentary of his campaign could turn against him atleast regardless the outbreaks commitment of Ross Ulbricht?

Does he even think Bitcoin supporters was welcomed that Ross used Bitcoin to execute his illegal transactions in the first place? Because what is sensed here is that he is actually begging for votes in other to do the peoples wills. Perhaps that is one of the scenarios speculating Bitcoin is a digital technology to run illegal transactions which Ross accusations were all one of the sabotage to what tinted Bitcoin as a tool of illegalities.
But though I am not against his freedom which I believe he must had learnt t his lessons in a hard way all these while he has been in detention.

I wish him Donald Trumps victory and let us sit and watch him perform those wonders when the day comes.

I don’t remember crypto being talked about in the Trump vs. Biden debate. I doubt that it will come up when Trump debates Harris. Crypto will not be the deciding issue that determines the election, but with the amount of spending by super PACs backed by the industry it is important enough for candidates like Trump and RFK to pay attention and appeal to crypto enthusiasts. Whether or not crypto is being talked about, more pro-crypto candidates are being elected due to the amount of money they are raising.

Trump will probably not pardon Ross Ulbricht on day 1, like he promised, but he might do it eventually because he is a populist seeking to improve his image with voters. He is also a businessman who, along with his family, will be launching a DeFi platform. This is certainly good publicity for his crypto businesses. In contrast, Harris is a textbook politician. She is being more cold, calculated, and sticking to the script given to her by her party’s leadership. Since money is what determines political agendas, I believe crypto will become more of a bipartisan issue. Harris and the Democrats will have to adopt friendlier policies to remain competitive.

Donald Trump has expressed his views on cryptocurrencies on several occasions. In some of his statements, he showed a negative opinion towards cryptocurrencies, as he considered them a threat to the US currency, the dollar. He also criticized the idea of ​​virtual currencies and considered that the matter requires greater regulation. This discrepancy in his positions clearly expresses his hesitation to take a precise position, as his political position was the determinant of his views each time. That is, when he was in power, he was not enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies and considered them a threat, then after leaving the White House and rejoining the race for the next presidential elections, he began to express his positive aspirations regarding them and made promises to provide greater legal and regulatory cover.

At the recent Bitcoin conference in Nashville, Trump's intervention was not significant, although the conference itself gained increased attention due to Trump's invitation to it. Many are still convinced that Trump is seeking to gain an electoral base that supports him as a presidential candidate, and I do not think that the crypto community really trusts his promises, no matter how easy they seem to achieve.

From a personal point of view, I believe that the opinion on cryptocurrencies will remain mixed, as some see them as the future of money, while others see them as a bubble or a speculative tool. In the United States in particular, it is unfortunate that the crypto space has turned from an emerging market that promises further development opportunities, into an electoral tool used by politicians according to their narrow interests. I also believe that the position of the Democrats is more transparent and consistent with the party’s policies, which do not trust cryptocurrencies and originally avoid engaging in them, even though this may help them in the electoral campaign to win the presidency.

In case people wondering what is the judgement made by US government regarding his case they can read it in this site https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ross-ulbricht-aka-dread-pirate-roberts-sentenced-life-federal-prison-creating

Although the sentence is bit harsh for him but I guess its time for the government to look at his case and check if he do well in prison. Since I still think that everyone deserve a second chance and I think Ross Ulbricht still deserve to consider. Maybe government could use his talent and able to track more illegal online activities. But still government has final say if they are already close with this chapter and think about he still deserve to rot on jail then I guess he can't do anything with it.