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September 27, 2017, 10:24:10 AM
for me bitcoin is a really good thing to be dependent on. it really helps me on daily instructions mostly business transactions bitcoin also always there for me when i needed money i can easily sell it out so that i can cash it out. even tho bitcoin is a decentralized money. i don't care because bitcoin is the one who helps me to be on my state right now.

Bitcoin is something worth sweating for, I mean you can actually visualize all the things that you have been working for, I dont believe that it is not a good money , in what way? It will give a profit and thats the reason why you are posting here, cause you are assuming for a profit and dreaming about a financially stable life which will take long in some working buildings.
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September 25, 2017, 12:28:33 PM
Yes I think that bitcoins are not good money yet as of now it is mostly only seen as an investments because of it's volatile nature.Bitcoins prices are highly influenced by the demands of the people if it increase then the price would too but if people won't do any transactions with bitcoins then bitcoins would be pretty much died.I think bitcoins can only seen as investment as it's market is not going to get stable anytime soon because they are in limited number so after all bitcoins are mined it's price is going to sky rocket.
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September 25, 2017, 11:53:49 AM
Indeed; seeing bitcoin as money would be the same as seeing gold as money.
Both are currencies that backup day-to-day money.

You cant go to a grocery store with your gold ingot and pay, that doesnt mean that gold is "bad money".
The same applies with bitcoin, bitcoin still has some challenges ahead to be solved in order to be considered "good money".

However, as a currency it is disrupting markets. And other altcoins are taking his place in day to day tradings (ltc, monero, zcash)
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September 25, 2017, 11:46:25 AM
If it's not a good money, Maybe we can ask now why Jaime Bought bitcoins last time inspite of saying that BTC is a fraud. I'm not saying that you argument is not good but for my basic point of view, Maybe i'll be trusting a well known banker from a prominent company who sees the potential of BTC than you. Just saying tho.

'Bitcoin is not a good money' is only against the point of view that Bitcoin will help the cause of freedom in this world.  I don't think the price of Bitcoin has a bad future.  In fact, the elites may be promoting it precisely because it is easier to manipulate than gold and silver.
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September 22, 2017, 02:09:54 PM
Bitcoin is a modern store of value that will far exceed any other major store of value. Gold and Silver is just impractical in today's digital society. I fully support the deflationary aspect to Bitcoin, it ensure that its value will grow over time.

The scarcity is a large factor of the value that it has.
yes that is right that bitcoin is the currency of the modern people specially the new generation who are showing more interest in bitcoin to use it for online shopping. they are now converting even their business to online and mostly giving preference to online shopping and other dealings, therefore we can say that bitcoin has a great and bright future.

I think it will be a great idea if bitcoin didnt pump into its lowest price, which may scare people in using it for trading unlike using in paper money you have the money that you gain from somewhere, it will remains as is if you dont spend it but in bitcoin dumps its price without any clue but good thing it come back to its original price, bitcoin is better than paper money because it is easy to be earn.

Nice idea... I still think that even with a dump in bitcoin, it will still rise and still be used for trading. The shake in bitcoin value is normal and expected given the issues from China.
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September 21, 2017, 12:17:20 AM
Bitcoin is a modern store of value that will far exceed any other major store of value. Gold and Silver is just impractical in today's digital society. I fully support the deflationary aspect to Bitcoin, it ensure that its value will grow over time.

The scarcity is a large factor of the value that it has.
yes that is right that bitcoin is the currency of the modern people specially the new generation who are showing more interest in bitcoin to use it for online shopping. they are now converting even their business to online and mostly giving preference to online shopping and other dealings, therefore we can say that bitcoin has a great and bright future.

I think it will be a great idea if bitcoin didnt pump into its lowest price, which may scare people in using it for trading unlike using in paper money you have the money that you gain from somewhere, it will remains as is if you dont spend it but in bitcoin dumps its price without any clue but good thing it come back to its original price, bitcoin is better than paper money because it is easy to be earn.
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September 20, 2017, 11:36:59 PM
Actually bitcoin is better then the current currency,its durable,  divisible,  and have limitation in the amount. Those characteristic was makes bitcoin to be the best currency in the world.
                      How can we say such words? In fact it is still running despite those FUDs and news about bitcoin. Some people use those news to take advantage and buy it from dips so in the end when the time comes when the prices raise, they will be the ones who will benefit, unlike those who panic and sell it easily they are the losers. So in the last man standing are those who bought from the low price.
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September 20, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
I know, Bitcoin is designed to be as free from central bank and politician control as possible.  It is open-source, decentralized, etc.

But if you think about it, Bitcoin is still fundamentally worse than gold and silver as a truly free money.

First things first: all of gold, silver and Bitcoin are subject to central bank manipulation by pegging.  When central banks store up enough non-state money, they can sell that money for a fixed dollar or pound price, and thus suppress any appreciation of the non-state money in currency terms.  This enables the elites to acquire wealth and power for free, by issuing state currency and debt, as long as the central bank has enough of the non-state money to fight off any 'run on the bank.'

This was the real nature of the gold and silver standards through most of modern history, that mainstream economists praised for stabilizing state currencies and economies, at that time.  (Of course, they are now firmly against the gold standard, thus both times saying the elites' system was/is good for the economy.)

That said, Bitcoin suffers from the additional problem that it's secured not by physics, but by algorithm.  Algorithms can change.  Algorithms are only guarded by humans who are subject to persuasion.  At some point, the elites will have issued too many IOUs against the Bitcoin in their vaults.  Either we increase the issuance limit from 21 million, or we get a financial crisis and depression.  I imagine most of the developers will be open to talking.  (BTW, some version of this is almost guaranteed to happen, due to the nature of the world system.  For example, all countries have defaulted on their promises to redeem gold at a fixed price.)

This is in contrast to gold and silver, where violating the limit of issuance is physically impossible (or very expensive, with radioactive reactions.)

Another major weakness of Bitcoin is transparency.  In order for the public to hold the elites accountable for their monetary actions, however partially, the easier it is to observe and monitor the system, the better.  The reality is that computer networks and data structures are not easy for most of the public to understand, compared to the age-old concept of holding physical metals.

And we know from experience that the elites take full advantage of lack of public understanding.  Besides the 'gold standard good, gold standard bad' flip-flop by establishment economists, almost every major issue of finance is distorted before the public receive the wisdom passed down to it by the media (and this includes, maybe especially includes, channels tailored to the highly educated, like The Economist magazine and America's PBS television.)  Southeast Asia in the 90s, Greece recently, and Germany between world wars were made to suffer deflation after their financial crises, and the economic justification was 'moral hazard.'  The US was allowed to print devalued money to ease the pain after its own financial crises, and the economic justification was Keynesian pain relief.  (The real reason for the differentiation was that American voters had more power to disrupt the elites' system than those other populations.)

With Bitcoin so much easier to manipulate than gold and silver, no wonder, all the signs are that the elites will promote Bitcoin as the store of value of the future.  This makes even more sense when you consider it would be embarassing for the elites to promote gold or silver instead, since their prices would have to rise to a level much higher than the last time the elites tried to fix them.  Gold has appreciated 30 time since the elites' fixed postwar price of $35/ounce, and would likely have to appreciate another 30 times before a new (de-facto) gold standard can become stable.  This does not make the elites' money look good.  Bitcoin has no such history, and the elites can claim (and likely be believed) that they are merely moving money onto a new, electronic foundation that is more stable than a totally fiat system.

As I mentioned before, the elites must secretly nurture, if not openly promote, some form of safe store of value that is totally trusted by the public.  In today's world, that can only mean non-state-issued money.  The only question is which.

That's why i think that bitcoin and regular curreny has its pros and cons while I think that no currency can ever be safe from tampering or from banks. The possibilities uou can do in bitcoin is still endless and more people are still investig on it as it gives them profit that banks or in their regular money cant do.
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September 20, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Bitcoin is not created to be used as money, it is created to be an investment who will fight for inflation and will save the money of the people in the world. Bitcoin is not like the regular money because you cannot use it for daily life since you will be spending more money in paying the fees so it is just suited for investment.
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September 20, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
If it's not a good money, Maybe we can ask now why Jaime Bought bitcoins last time inspite of saying that BTC is a fraud. I'm not saying that you argument is not good but for my basic point of view, Maybe i'll be trusting a well known banker from a prominent company who sees the potential of BTC than you. Just saying tho.
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September 20, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
Actually bitcoin is better then the current currency,its durable,  divisible,  and have limitation in the amount. Those characteristic was makes bitcoin to be the best currency in the world.
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September 20, 2017, 06:49:41 PM
Bitcoin is powerful enough this days and maybe gold and silver will be left out and they will be just a jewelry. Think of what will happen with bitcoin in the future it will be soon known by the whole world and extend more since its value gets higher every year
I believe bitcoin has a bright future and yes it is powerful these days. Soon there will be a merchant that bitcoin will serve as a real money. Somehow, by buying things online we can say it can serves as a good money online because we can use it to purchase online. Moreover, bitcoin has not stopping from there because we can serve it as an investment also.
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September 20, 2017, 05:25:26 PM
This is the opinion of those who have not gained profit from bitcoin so say it. for me bitcoin is the best money because its value is always up compared to the price of all commodities.
Dont underestimate opinions of other members. Bitcoin prices always have ups and downs. As a digital money we can list many good reasons but let's dont ignore the cons of bitcoin..
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September 20, 2017, 04:53:46 PM
Bitcoin is powerful enough this days and maybe gold and silver will be left out and they will be just a jewelry. Think of what will happen with bitcoin in the future it will be soon known by the whole world and extend more since its value gets higher every year
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September 12, 2017, 08:34:32 AM
Bitcoin is not real money because of simple fact acceptance the way dollar is not real money to the man on the street of China trying to make a living for himself. In the outside world bitcoin might not be real money, but over here, that is the main currency to be used as a medium of exchange and even anything other than bitcoin for services to be rendered or rendered is purely a waste of time.
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September 12, 2017, 07:47:39 AM
Currently, many people who want to do activities dibitcoin that alone can be used as evidence that bitcoin currency is good enough money. not to mention the many investors who want to invest dibitcoin. so I guess you're wrong if you say that bitcoin is not good money. bitcoin is helpful to meet the needs in terms of the economy of my life. right now I have started trading in dibitcoin I do that because I am very confident that actually bitcoin can improve in terms of economy of my life for the future. and really bitcoin is a gift I get.
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September 11, 2017, 11:45:51 PM
Bitcoin is not a really good money because it will not help you to pay your things on a daily basis and bitcoin is more like a good investment for long term because bitcoin is not a completely a money but also an investment which is preferrable rather than using it as a money.
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September 11, 2017, 11:30:00 PM
There maybe some flaws you can see in bitcoin but it does not generalize that it is not a good money at all. If all of us would base the meaning of being good money to its transaction hassles and vulnerability then no one would be happy to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin has a lot to offer for us in this community. It's a step by step process in order to perfect something.
It is true that there is a lot of things in bitcoin that should a development in the future. In the simple matters bitcoin is not that perfect, yet we are a vital factor for it to develop and to become a better currency in the future. It depends on us on how we are going to used bitcoin as a number one option on transaction specifically on trading, investments or daily transaction that could somehow makes bitcoin more popular on people to used it as a mode of transaction.
Nothing is perfect; we just go for what are better or rather better suits us. We are an important factor but don't you think bitcoin has attracted us first towards itself. It provided us with new ways of transaction and become our source of income. BTCs have that much followers because of its extraordinary features. We can be replaced but BTC can't be.
Exactly! Bitcoin is no doubt a very good source of income for many of us. I think the one who think this thing that Bitcoin is not a good money, they actually are unaware of all the wonders which Bitcoin is and will bring in the coming days. Bitcoin in my point of view will be the most valuable money in future.
                         It is just because the developer is really brilliant he saw that it is still not enough and there are some problems from transferring money from one place to another so he developed a virtual currency that has multi-purpose. Even though it is not yet perfect or not even at the bound of perfection, so many developers are trying to developed new ways or methods or even projects that could help and be beneficial to bitcoin itself.
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September 11, 2017, 11:16:00 PM
There maybe some flaws you can see in bitcoin but it does not generalize that it is not a good money at all. If all of us would base the meaning of being good money to its transaction hassles and vulnerability then no one would be happy to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin has a lot to offer for us in this community. It's a step by step process in order to perfect something.
It is true that there is a lot of things in bitcoin that should a development in the future. In the simple matters bitcoin is not that perfect, yet we are a vital factor for it to develop and to become a better currency in the future. It depends on us on how we are going to used bitcoin as a number one option on transaction specifically on trading, investments or daily transaction that could somehow makes bitcoin more popular on people to used it as a mode of transaction.
Nothing is perfect; we just go for what are better or rather better suits us. We are an important factor but don't you think bitcoin has attracted us first towards itself. It provided us with new ways of transaction and become our source of income. BTCs have that much followers because of its extraordinary features. We can be replaced but BTC can't be.
Exactly! Bitcoin is no doubt a very good source of income for many of us. I think the one who think this thing that Bitcoin is not a good money, they actually are unaware of all the wonders which Bitcoin is and will bring in the coming days. Bitcoin in my point of view will be the most valuable money in future.
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September 09, 2017, 01:49:01 PM
I think it is based on the experience of the user. They think that bitcoin is not a good money because of being cashless/crypto-currecny which is possible to disapper that cause of losing money. And the otherside is gooe because it is helpful to the other, it is the source ot income by the other because of investing, trading and benefits of volatile price of each crypto-currency. It is normal to make a mistakes because this will the one reason why we survive and have a better life.
A lot of people has the different thinking about bitcoin and for me bitcoin is not just the money but it is more than that because it keeps your money and your investments save then how can someone say that bitcoin is not the money we can buy things and can pay our bills using bitcoin in addition to it is best payment service because of the cheaper and faster transaction so it is better than money for money now.
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