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August 25, 2017, 07:24:27 AM
#71
Loved reading it. But have we ever think why gold is so precious?
It is just a mere stone and just made valuable because it is shining.  Grin
Time for a new one to shine and change this world on how it circulates from just the fiat money and commodities which are being used by crocodiles just for their own profit.
This one is not just for the rich. It will somehow change the way people look at a new currency.
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August 25, 2017, 06:35:59 AM
#70
Either we increase the issuance limit from 21 million, or we get a financial crisis and depression.  I imagine most of the developers will be open to talking. 
Developers have absolutely no real power whatsoever.

What makes BTC a much more free money than gold or silver is that anyone can run any client at any time.  You want 100 kajillion coins?  Go ahead, have them.  Good luck getting everyone else to run your stupid client.

The only power that developers have is producing a client.  If the economic majority want to increase the supply of coins, they'll run a client which increases the supply of coins.  If the economic minority still don't want to increase the supply, they can keep the supply and that's perfectly fine.  The same applies with all of the other consensus rules, such as the block size.
Another major weakness of Bitcoin is transparency.  In order for the public to hold the elites accountable for their monetary actions, however partially, the easier it is to observe and monitor the system, the better.
Handing gold from one place to another is almost 100% untraceable, just like physical cash.  Moving Bitcoin is many times more transparent because every single transaction is accessible on a public ledger.  That means that you could see banks shifting money between each other and all other economic activity that takes place.  BTC would massively increase transparency unless banks attempted to keep their addresses hidden, but that would be tough since people can see the addresses they deposit to (if they even deposit to a bank at all).
Lmao…truly for those old fashion men. Fools keeps on talking trash about Bitcoin; saying things that don’t even have meaning, while experts are a whole lot busy making money through Bitcoin. I’ve seen some people said all sorts bad words against Bitcoin, but are now investing into it. Let them keep on wasting time, while others quietly makes money.
This is true, they are wasting time while we are silently making money with bitcoin. Ive known some of my friends did tell me that bitcoin is a scam or fraud but a year later they do approach me again and asking what are the ways on making money on bitcoin because they do able to see me that i have lots of money to buy my wants which they cant afford to buy on.Bitcoin might not have a physical form but still consider as money since it do have a value.
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August 24, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
#69
One might say world markets decide which money is good or bad. Good money prospers and increases in value while bad money devalues/hyperinflates as its worth diminishes.

If Charles Darwin were alive today he could write a theory of money evolution where markets are defined by a survival of the fittest credo which determines good, strong, money survives while bad, weak, money perishes and is eliminated from the global financial gene pool.

As Charles Darwin isn't here, how do we define what good money or bad money is?
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August 24, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
#68
Every technology has its positive and negative effects it depends on the user.
For eg, Drug dealing and accepting payment for drugs and illegal businesses is now much easier. ( negative )

People can send money in form of bitcoins easily to one another without going through banks ( +ve )

Yes we can do this dealing with direct cash also, but why the dealers use Bitcoins means it is un trackable currency. no body can know who is sent and who is received. i think people will use bitcoins for both positive and negative. We can not say directly that Bitcoin is not good money. it depends on you how you treat.
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August 24, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
#67
Well I don't understand what you mean by bitcoin not really a good money, because to me bitcoin has all the features of money and equally  store of value compared to other currency you can think about. Only people who don't have knowledge of what crypto currency is all about.
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August 24, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
#66
All this reasons that you called are ok, because of, you see, Bitcoin wasn't created to replace gold or silver. So, they both can be used by the central bank and people. Bitcoin was created as control free currency and it is following it's target good for now. I don't see why do you compare bitcoin and gold in such positions where gold actually wins. Bitcoin has it's own positive sides, that gold hasn't, with which it attracts so many users and attention today.

This is a reasonable argument to make, but I don't think it's as simple as 'gold has one set of advantages, and Bitcoin has another set of advantages.'

The advantages of Bitcoin bring convenience in an electronic age. The advantages of gold are in regards to the integrity of a state-free money.  One set is more fundamentally important than the other.

It's almost like saying, a beautiful boat with many amenities is really no good if it has holes that will eventually sink it.
great that's how exactly we should think about this system as gold already proven his existence that most of the countries treated as an asset while bitcoin still new and still trying to prove its stability both have its own potential and they have different venue.

Yes the worst part is that some people figure out that bitcoin was designed to replace gold, silver, platinum or dollars. This is not true, bitcoin was created to provide unique experience for peer to peer payments. We all need to know this before start blaming bitcoin or complain about it.
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August 24, 2017, 11:41:12 AM
#65
stop blaming bitcoin. Bitcoin is a good money and if you do not like bitcoin, you can use fiat or other kinds of cryptocurrency
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August 24, 2017, 11:35:07 AM
#64
Every technology has its positive and negative effects it depends on the user.
For eg, Drug dealing and accepting payment for drugs and illegal businesses is now much easier. ( negative )

People can send money in form of bitcoins easily to one another without going through banks ( +ve )
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August 24, 2017, 11:23:46 AM
#63
All this reasons that you called are ok, because of, you see, Bitcoin wasn't created to replace gold or silver. So, they both can be used by the central bank and people. Bitcoin was created as control free currency and it is following it's target good for now. I don't see why do you compare bitcoin and gold in such positions where gold actually wins. Bitcoin has it's own positive sides, that gold hasn't, with which it attracts so many users and attention today.

This is a reasonable argument to make, but I don't think it's as simple as 'gold has one set of advantages, and Bitcoin has another set of advantages.'

The advantages of Bitcoin bring convenience in an electronic age. The advantages of gold are in regards to the integrity of a state-free money.  One set is more fundamentally important than the other.

It's almost like saying, a beautiful boat with many amenities is really no good if it has holes that will eventually sink it.
great that's how exactly we should think about this system as gold already proven his existence that most of the countries treated as an asset while bitcoin still new and still trying to prove its stability both have its own potential and they have different venue.
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August 24, 2017, 10:52:13 AM
#62
Bitcoin is not great right now because there are huge transaction fees and of course no one wants to pay 10% for one transaction, especially small amounts. With that said, it will get better with Lightning Network.
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August 24, 2017, 10:34:31 AM
#61
All this reasons that you called are ok, because of, you see, Bitcoin wasn't created to replace gold or silver. So, they both can be used by the central bank and people. Bitcoin was created as control free currency and it is following it's target good for now. I don't see why do you compare bitcoin and gold in such positions where gold actually wins. Bitcoin has it's own positive sides, that gold hasn't, with which it attracts so many users and attention today.

This is a reasonable argument to make, but I don't think it's as simple as 'gold has one set of advantages, and Bitcoin has another set of advantages.'

The advantages of Bitcoin bring convenience in an electronic age. The advantages of gold are in regards to the integrity of a state-free money.  One set is more fundamentally important than the other.

It's almost like saying, a beautiful boat with many amenities is really no good if it has holes that will eventually sink it.
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August 24, 2017, 10:19:24 AM
#60
Maybe for you Bitcoin is not a good money, but for most bitcoin community here it is a good currency where many of here helped by bitcoin.
They used bitcoin in so many ways, whether in savings, investment, trading, and many more.
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August 24, 2017, 09:43:14 AM
#59
Either we increase the issuance limit from 21 million, or we get a financial crisis and depression.  I imagine most of the developers will be open to talking. 
Developers have absolutely no real power whatsoever.

What makes BTC a much more free money than gold or silver is that anyone can run any client at any time.  You want 100 kajillion coins?  Go ahead, have them.  Good luck getting everyone else to run your stupid client.

The only power that developers have is producing a client.  If the economic majority want to increase the supply of coins, they'll run a client which increases the supply of coins.  If the economic minority still don't want to increase the supply, they can keep the supply and that's perfectly fine.  The same applies with all of the other consensus rules, such as the block size.
Another major weakness of Bitcoin is transparency.  In order for the public to hold the elites accountable for their monetary actions, however partially, the easier it is to observe and monitor the system, the better.
Handing gold from one place to another is almost 100% untraceable, just like physical cash.  Moving Bitcoin is many times more transparent because every single transaction is accessible on a public ledger.  That means that you could see banks shifting money between each other and all other economic activity that takes place.  BTC would massively increase transparency unless banks attempted to keep their addresses hidden, but that would be tough since people can see the addresses they deposit to (if they even deposit to a bank at all).
Lmao…truly for those old fashion men. Fools keeps on talking trash about Bitcoin; saying things that don’t even have meaning, while experts are a whole lot busy making money through Bitcoin. I’ve seen some people said all sorts bad words against Bitcoin, but are now investing into it. Let them keep on wasting time, while others quietly makes money.
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August 24, 2017, 08:50:06 AM
#58
The only question is actually " which state will allow his country to using money that the state did not have control on" I do believe the elites and politicians will never want freedom for common man. Bitcoin is even better not make a legal tender but we the promoters should only push for it acceptability by humanity. No country has accepted bitcoin but we can really see the impact it has made in our society. Decentralized currency is enemity of politicians and elites.
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August 24, 2017, 08:20:47 AM
#57
There really is no perfect system. Every time that you try to accommodate one need ,, you end up either creating another issue or making some small flaw larger. The same is true for Bitcoin. In order to keep things completely anonymous you have to do away with services like exchanges and other online services. In order to keep things completely decentralized you have to do the same thing.
Bitcoin might not be perfect but no one needs to do away with services and other online services just to send money online anonymously as one can send using his/her own wallet without ever revealing his identity at all. By doing that the real essence of bitcoin is still there even without using services to make one more anonymous. I agree on the part though that one need to use exchanges. In order to keep bitcoin market decentralized, all must continue to use decentralized exchanges.
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August 24, 2017, 08:07:25 AM
#56
There really is no perfect system. Every time that you try to accommodate one need ,, you end up either creating another issue or making some small flaw larger. The same is true for Bitcoin. In order to keep things completely anonymous you have to do away with services like exchanges and other online services. In order to keep things completely decentralized you have to do the same thing.
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August 24, 2017, 07:46:31 AM
#55
I agree with nost of the opinios. What bothers me is the hacking activities . These are real and brcoming so sophisticated that for example goverments have toools to penetrate your computer and data connections so actually they can manipulate and take away your digital goods. I really dont tottaly safe land to store bitcoin yet . Ledger nano is far from safe from my point of view
Worrying too much wont really give you anything good and thinking off that government doesnt really have the power to track us anytime specially on our browsing habits unless if you download virus or malware that they would able to track you out but if you are careful they wont easily hacked you up no matter what and speaking on bitcoin you cant be easily hacked as long you wont expose those private keys.
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August 24, 2017, 07:38:41 AM
#54
I agree with nost of the opinios. What bothers me is the hacking activities . These are real and brcoming so sophisticated that for example goverments have toools to penetrate your computer and data connections so actually they can manipulate and take away your digital goods. I really dont tottaly safe land to store bitcoin yet . Ledger nano is far from safe from my point of view
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August 24, 2017, 07:31:20 AM
#53
Bitcoin is good money that helps an honest way to improve the lives of many people who do not have a job or are short of salary. I do not see anything wrong with them.
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August 24, 2017, 07:27:06 AM
#52
I will only say that bitcoin is not a good money when it has no value anymore. How can you say that bitcoin is not good  money if some people are earning it and holding it.  As long as bitcoin has value it will always be a good money.

Well, the dollar has value today, but I'm sure most people here will agree the dollar is not a good money, in the sense that it encourages the American elites to bring economic problems and wars around the war in order to defend their dollar as their power base.

It's in the same sense that Bitcoin is not a good money.  Now, Bitcoin was designed precisely to avoid the dollar's problems, I know, but as I've argued, a system that is based on electronics rather than physics will not be strong enough to resist the elites' using it as a tool to protect their exercise of perverse power.
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