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December 14, 2013, 09:39:51 PM
#68
How will that "floating city" handle big waves though? And do we even got chains strong enough to anchor that thing and survive fighting against the winds hitting such a huge surface area? What if the wind is asymmetrical, causing it to try to turn, distributing the strain over the anchors unevenly?

I don't think they said they were going to be anchoring it And I don't think waves and wind will have much of an effect on something that is larger than all the cruise ships in the world combined... Watch the video
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December 14, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
#67
Good points. A Really Big Ship is more sturdy against the weather but less flexible. So make the modules big enough to handle most weather solo, which should make them able to handle it when pieced together too?
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December 14, 2013, 06:32:51 PM
#66
How will that "floating city" handle big waves though? And do we even got chains strong enough to anchor that thing and survive fighting against the winds hitting such a huge surface area? What if the wind is asymmetrical, causing it to try to turn, distributing the strain over the anchors unevenly?
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December 14, 2013, 01:42:47 PM
#65
Interesting take on the floating city idea, I imagine this would have a number of benefits: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/other-shows/videos/mega-engineering-building-a-floating-city.htm

I hadn't seen that video yet only this picture
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December 14, 2013, 09:58:58 AM
#64
Why can't you guys and gals use Burning Man's organization as a base to build a XBT Nation? They need to keep a place safe and clean for a lot of people in the middle of the desert for a while.

That desert is still located inside the territorial limits of the USA. So I'd veto this move.  Grin
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December 14, 2013, 05:40:04 AM
#63
Interesting take on the floating city idea, I imagine this would have a number of benefits: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/other-shows/videos/mega-engineering-building-a-floating-city.htm
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December 13, 2013, 07:50:25 PM
#62
Why can't you guys and gals use Burning Man's organization as a base to build a XBT Nation? They need to keep a place safe and clean for a lot of people in the middle of the desert for a while.

Is there a bitcoin presence at burning man yet?
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December 13, 2013, 05:50:50 PM
#61
Why can't you guys and gals use Burning Man's organization as a base to build a XBT Nation? They need to keep a place safe and clean for a lot of people in the middle of the desert for a while.
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December 13, 2013, 11:49:12 AM
#60
I can picture it now:

A fleet of 20 blue-seed ships that meet up in the middle of the ocean once a month

People in Jet packs flying to other boats and islands while the home bodies have drones come to them with supplies

Submarines and underwater housing put under the meeting place so that whenever the blueseed boats come the under water citizens can just put on wet suits and go to the surface to meet some people

etc etc etc
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December 13, 2013, 01:45:27 AM
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MIT Cheetah Bot
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December 13, 2013, 01:21:24 AM
#58
Drones




Have you heard of Amazon delivery drones that can bring supplies to people in need





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December 13, 2013, 01:15:54 AM
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Life Guard Bot


Water Cleaner

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December 13, 2013, 01:13:51 AM
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Ocean Drones









Autonomous Glider

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December 13, 2013, 01:07:47 AM
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December 13, 2013, 01:00:44 AM
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International Law:International law is the set of rules generally regarded and accepted as binding in relations between states and between nations.[1][2] It serves as a framework for the practice of stable and organized international relations.[3] International law differs from state-based legal systems in that it is primarily applicable to countries rather than to private citizens. National law may become international law when treaties delegate national jurisdiction to supranational tribunals such as the European Court of Human Rights or the International Criminal Court. Treaties such as the Geneva Conventions may require national law to conform.
Much of international law is consent-based governance. This means that a state member of the international community is not obliged to abide by this type of international law, unless it has expressly consented to a particular course of conduct.[4] This is an issue of state sovereignty. However, other aspects of international law are not consent-based but still are obligatory upon state and non-state actors such as customary international law and peremptory norms (jus cogens)

Extraterrestrial real estate: is land on other planets or natural satellites or parts of space that is sold either through organisations or by individuals. Ownership of extraterrestrial real estate is not recognised by any authority.[1] Nevertheless, some private individuals and organisations have claimed ownership of celestial bodies, such as the Moon, and are actively involved in "selling" parts of them through certificates of ownership termed "Lunar deeds",[1] "Martian deeds" or similar. These "deeds" have no legal standing

Space Faring:To be spacefaring is to be capable of and active in the art of space travel or space transport, the operation of spacecraft or spaceplanes. It involves a knowledge of a variety of topics and development of specialised skills including (but not limited to): aeronautics; astronautics; programs to train astronauts; space weather and forecasting; ship-handling and small craft handling; operation of various equipment; spacecraft design and construction; atmospheric takeoff and reentry; orbital mechanics (aka astrodynamics); communications; engines and rockets; execution of evolutions such as towing, micro-gravity construction, and space docking; cargo handling equipment, dangerous cargoes and cargo storage; spacewalking; dealing with emergencies; survival at space and first aid; fire fighting; life support. The degree of knowledge needed within these areas is dependent upon the nature of the work and the type of vessel employed. "Spacefaring" is analogous to seafaring.

Common heritage of mankind (also termed the common heritage of humanity, common heritage of humankind or common heritage principle) is a principle of international law which holds that defined territorial areas and elements of humanity's common heritage (cultural and natural) should be held in trust for future generations and be protected from exploitation by individual nation states or corporations.
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December 13, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
#53
Embassy: A diplomatic mission is a group of people from one state or an international inter-governmental organisation (such as the United Nations or Bitcoin) present in another state to represent the sending state/organisation officially in the receiving state. In practice, a diplomatic mission usually denotes the resident mission, namely the office of a country's diplomatic representatives in the capital city of another country. As well as being a diplomatic mission to the country in which it is situated, it may also be a non-resident permanent mission to one or more other countries. There are thus resident and non-resident embassies

Nation State:The nation state is a state that self-identifies as deriving its political legitimacy from serving as a sovereign entity for a nation as a sovereign territorial unit.[1] The state is a political and geopolitical entity; the nation is a cultural and/or ethnic entity. The term "nation state" implies that the two geographically coincide. Nation state formation took place at different times in different parts of the world, but has become the dominant form of state organization.
The concept and actuality of the nation state can be compared and contrasted with that of the multinational state, city state,[2][3][4] empire, confederation, and other state forms with which it may overlap. The key distinction from the other forms is the identification of a people with a polity.
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December 13, 2013, 12:37:13 AM
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Band: Bands have a loose organization. Their power structure is often egalitarian and has informal leadership; the older members of the band generally are looked to for guidance and advice, and decisions are often made on a consensus basis,[2] but there are no written laws and none of the specialised coercive roles (e.g., police) typically seen in more complex societies. Bands' customs are almost always transmitted orally. Formal social institutions are few or non-existent. Religion is generally based on family tradition, individual experience, or counsel from a shaman. All known band societies hunt and gather to obtain their subsistence.

Tribe: A tribe is viewed, historically or developmentally, as a social group existing before the development of, or outside of, states. Many people used the term tribal society to refer to societies organized largely on the basis of social, especially corporate, descent groups (see clan and kinship).
The name "Tribe" is one that anthropologists are trying to move away from and tribes are now being referred to as a segmentary society. A segmentary society is larger than a mobile hunter-gatherer group, but is smaller than a chiefdom. The typical size is more than a hundred but not bigger than a few thousand.
These societies are farmers and their diet mainly consists of cultivate plants and domesticated animals; few are nomad pastoralists. The society consists of individual communities which are then connected to the large society through kinship.[1]
Segmentary societies have Religious elders and calendrical rituals. Hierarchy is not based on age, gender or ability- but is based on small attributes, such as birth order. They do have officials and some even have a capital, but the officials do not have a strong amount of power.[2] A segmentary society was the society that all early farmers had. They typically live in villages or settled agricultural homesteads. Their homes and society are settled.
Settlements are found in a dispersed pattern (permanently occupied houses) or a nucleated pattern (permanent villages). The permanent villages can have either a collection of free-standing houses, or building grouped together in a cluster. An example of free standing houses are the farmers of Danube Valley in Europe, which occupied the space in 4500 BC. The cluster of buildings, also known as agglomerate, can be found at the Pueblos in America’s Southwest.[3]
Pueblo, agglomerate
Some political economic theorists such as Elman Service. hold that tribes represent a stage in sociocultural evolution intermediate between bands and states. Other theorists, such as Morton Fried, argue that tribes developed after states, and must be understood in terms of their relationship to them.
'Tribe' is a contested term due to its roots in colonialism. The word has no shared referent, whether in political form, kinship relations, or shared culture. It conveys a negative connotation of a timeless unchanging past. [4][5][6] To avoid these implications, some have chosen to use the terms 'ethnic group', or nation instead.

Nation Building:At one stage,[when?] nation-building referred to the efforts of newly-independent nations, notably the nations of Africa but also in the Balkans,[2][3] to reshape territories that had been carved out by colonial powers or empires without regard to ethnic, religious, or other boundaries.[4] These reformed states would then become viable and coherent national entities.[5]
Nation-building includes the creation of national paraphernalia such as flags, anthems, national days, national stadiums, national airlines, national languages, and national myths.[6][7] At a deeper level, national identity needed to be deliberately constructed by molding different ethnic groups into a nation, especially since in many newly established states colonial practices of divide and rule had resulted in ethnically heterogeneous populations.[8]
However, many new states were plagued by "tribalism", rivalry between ethnic groups within the nation. This sometimes resulted in their near-disintegration, such as the attempt by Biafra to secede from Nigeria in 1970, or the continuing demand of the Somali people in the Ogaden region of Ethiopia for complete independence. In Asia, the disintegration of India into Pakistan and Bangladesh is another example where ethnic differences, aided by geographic distance, tore apart a post-colonial state. The Rwandan genocide as well as the recurrent problems experienced by the Sudan can also be related to a lack of ethnic, religious, or racial cohesion within the nation. It has often proved difficult to unite states with similar ethnic but different colonial backgrounds. Whereas successful examples like Cameroon do exist, failures like Senegambia Confederation demonstrate the problems of uniting Francophone and Anglophone territories.

Jus sanguinis: (Latin: right of blood) is a principle of nationality law by which citizenship is not determined by place of birth but by having one or both parents who are citizens of the state. Children at birth may automatically be citizens if their parents have state citizenship or national identities of ethnic, cultural or other origins.[1] Citizenship can also apply to children whose parents belong to a diaspora and were not themselves citizens of the state conferring citizenship. This principle contrasts with jus soli (Latin: right of soil).[2]
At the end of the 19th century, the French-German debate on nationality saw the French, such as Ernest Renan, oppose the German conception, exemplified by Johann Fichte, who believed in an "objective nationality", based on blood, race or language. Renan's republican conception, but perhaps also the presence of a German-speaking population in Alsace-Lorraine, explains France's early adoption of jus soli. Many nations have a mixture of jus sanguinis and jus soli, including the United States, Canada, Israel, Greece, Ireland, and recently Germany.
Today France only narrowly applies jus sanguinis, but it is still the most common means of passing on citizenship in many continental European countries. Some countries provide almost the same rights as a citizen to people born in the country, without actually giving them citizenship. An example is Indfødsret in Denmark, which provides that upon reaching 18, non-citizen residents can decide to take a test to gain citizenship.
Some modern European states which arose out dissolved empires, like the Austro-Hungarian or Ottoman, have huge numbers of ethnic populations outside of their new 'national' boundaries, as do most of the former Soviet states. Such long-standing diasporas do not conform to codified 20th-century European rules of citizenship.
In many cases, jus sanguinis rights are mandated by international treaty, with citizenship definitions imposed by the international community. In other cases, minorities are subject to legal and extra-legal persecution and choose to immigrate to their ancestral home country. States offering jus sanguinis rights to ethnic citizens and their descendants include Italy, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, and Romania. Each is required by international treaty to extend those rights.
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December 13, 2013, 12:33:12 AM
#51
There is a difference between claiming to be a nation and being recognized as such.

Exactly and no one ever said we were asking for recognition just that we wanted to do it
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December 13, 2013, 12:31:35 AM
#49
If i'm not mistaken, international law doesn't allow for a nation to extend (or create) it's territory in the middle of the sea by artificial means. The only alternatives would be to take possession of already existing territory, or get lucky to find a fresh volcano growing out of the surface of the sea in international waters that hasn't been claimed by anyone yet.


Though in the end, international law can be a bit flexible if you got enough political, financial and/or belic(sp?) firepower.

You are not really spreading your nation into the sea You are just claiming a nations flag as you sail into the ocean
I don't think a nation can be recognized without having a territory; not sure though.

I saw a special on TV where the went to all the little nations like that anarchy town in Denmark and Sea Land in the UK then they made their own online nation and started selling passports and citizenship
There is a difference between claiming to be a nation and being recognized as such.
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