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Quote from: gentlemand on November 11, 2020, 07:06:50 PM

Quote from: jackg on November 11, 2020, 07:01:29 PM

Men are more prone to taking risks and women are more prone to try the tried and tested ways to do things... I'm not really sure why - even in a world where a lot of people are raised a bit more equally.

Hard wired biology. Once a male has emptied his nads it doesn't really matter if he dies, but obviously he has some use afterwards punching mammoths and shit. Women had a brood to keep alive so naturally you're going to take safer options and leave the whacked out stuff to someone more disposable.

3-4 generations does not wipe that difference out even if it's expressed in vastly more subtle terms these days.

The figures for men vs women in much more conventional areas of investment reflect that too. I can't think of many women with active porfolios compared to men.

I wonder how long that will take or if it ever will change... It's probably been 20000 years at least since external threats have been a danger and a burden for only one gender (I think modern agriculture is around that time and, if not, that's what I'd put as the benchmark for when we no longer needed gender specific roles for survival).
But there is also a chance it might never be completely fixable for a long time in that case or at all...

I was looking at the top 100 companies in the UK and 5 have a female ceo and I don't think that's an irrelevant statistic either there is likely a gap im missing as well as the patriarchy (which for older companies is likely a problem).

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Quote from: emmybd on November 11, 2020, 02:37:38 PM

The world of investing has long been accused of being a male-dominated “old-boys club”. Women in this environment frequently complain that they are frozen out, treated badly or have to work harder than men to make good.

Source on this? This is so wrong in so many levels I don't even know where to start tbh. It's not a matter of about Bitcoin more tbh, Bitcoin doesn't even need gender to use it. Who the bloody hell cares if men or women use it, there's no issue with whoever does. There's absolutely no need to force or encourage women to trade when they don't want to, just like how we aren't forced to trade by other because they wanted to, we trade because we want to.

Quote from: Darker45 on November 11, 2020, 07:51:17 PM

What is it specifically that hinders women from getting into investment opportunities? I know this is a rather deep discussion which could be traced back to our old patriarchal traditions and cultures, the remnants of which still persist until today. But I am asking in the context of the western world where women can study anything, work, choose to have a family or not, choose where to live, travel, and so on. Is the playing field remains unfair?

Not really? Just that the inherent characteristics of most women (I'm assuming here okay? this is not for a fact) don't or wouldn't want to tackle jobs or work like trading. It's a matter of "wanting" and not really a matter of want or don't want.

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Here we come again in this gender issue.

What is it specifically that hinders women from getting into investment opportunities? I know this is a rather deep discussion which could be traced back to our old patriarchal traditions and cultures, the remnants of which still persist until today. But I am asking in the context of the western world where women can study anything, work, choose to have a family or not, choose where to live, travel, and so on. Is the playing field remains unfair?

There are indeed societies until now which treat women as some sort of second class unreasonable citizens who cannot seem to think clearly and decide on their own, but the mainstream society is probably convinced and share the same view that this prevailing norm is but an archaic one which should change.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on November 11, 2020, 07:41:53 PM

I need more people, not just only more women. the coin was made for all, not just for males, and it's there for anyone who wants to take it. So, it's in their hands to join this party, it's their decision, and push them to do it will make them feel it's a tricky business.

They need to understand by itself how it works and the benefits of using Bitcoin, but without interest in it then will not happen.

If the women get to know about the earning possibilities surely they'll get interested. In particular the home makers will show more interest, because after their scheduled work they get more time to spend. Women get interested by the words of encouragement, so if her husband/boy friend makes and encouraging statement that you can do it we can see more women into cryptospace.

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I need more people, not just only more women. the coin was made for all, not just for males, and it's there for anyone who wants to take it. So, it's in their hands to join this party, it's their decision, and push them to do it will make them feel it's a tricky business.

They need to understand by itself how it works and the benefits of using Bitcoin, but without interest in it then will not happen.

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Quote from: jackg on November 11, 2020, 07:01:29 PM

Men are more prone to taking risks and women are more prone to try the tried and tested ways to do things... I'm not really sure why - even in a world where a lot of people are raised a bit more equally.

Hard wired biology. Once a male has emptied his nads it doesn't really matter if he dies, but obviously he has some use afterwards punching mammoths and shit. Women had a brood to keep alive so naturally you're going to take safer options and leave the whacked out stuff to someone more disposable.

3-4 generations does not wipe that difference out even if it's expressed in vastly more subtle terms these days.

The figures for men vs women in much more conventional areas of investment reflect that too. I can't think of many women with active porfolios compared to men.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 11, 2020, 02:41:34 PM

You would really be expecting this common thing. Why? because male are adventurous and we know that Bitcoin is somewhat that techy that not all women cant really hook up on whats its all about.

Adventurous is probably the wrong word.

Men are more prone to taking risks and women are more prone to try the tried and tested ways to do things... I'm not really sure why - even in a world where a lot of people are raised a bit more equally. I've think I know one male who's interested and knows how to use bitcoin and basically no one else url. I didn't introduce it to them but I've tried and failed to introduce it to others (they blame the learning curve - I think it's laziness)

Quote from: emmybd on November 11, 2020, 02:37:38 PM

So you would have thought that the 21st century’s developing fetch scene might have leveled the playing field between the sexes. However, evidence suggests the rush to online finance platforms and investments has done nothing to boost equality.

Instead, the digitally driven world of artificial intelligence, Bitcoin and blockchain is as sexually unbalanced as the banking, property and commodity markets industries that preceded it. Tech industries are inherently male-dominated for reasons that include boys being introduced to gadgets at the a younger age, leading to just 16% of computer science undergraduates being female.

Yeah but I don't think it's to do with people not getting gadgets when they're young...

There might be a disparity between ages though too and I can't speak for the 80s or 90s (maybe) but don't girls get tamagotchis, exersketch and other stuff like furbeez as well - they did from the people I knew so probably most of western Europe at least gets that sort of "equality". And women have a history of being codebreakers and computerists (especially around war time periods so idk why that's not coming across...

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Bitcoin needs people from different backgrounds for it to be successful in gaining mainstream acceptance. Women can provide a different perspective and their insight can be useful depending on the demographics you want to target. If you want to build a product that serves the widest audience possible it would be helpful to have diverse employees.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 11, 2020, 06:46:19 PM

Last time I checked I did not have to send a photo of my genitals to play Bitcoin, apart from Bitstamp. If women are less interested that's on them. It's there waiting for them just as it is for the fellas. The vast majority of males are just as absent too.

Gender discrimination? That's wrong. Gender isn't something about the things that the men can do and the women can't do. There are things that both women and men can do. And for me here in cryoto world, both men and women has their own privilege to work here as long as they want to because they are both humans with free will and skills.

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Last time I checked I did not have to send a photo of my genitals to play Bitcoin, apart from Bitstamp. If women are less interested that's on them. It's there waiting for them just as it is for the fellas. The vast majority of males are just as absent too.

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Quote from: emmybd on November 11, 2020, 02:37:38 PM

The world of investing has long been accused of being a male-dominated “old-boys club”. Women in this environment frequently complain that they are frozen out, treated badly or have to work harder than men to make good.

Where are you getting this information from? You can literally sit at home and invest in stocks. That can't be male-dominated now.

Quote from: emmybd on November 11, 2020, 02:37:38 PM

So you would have thought that the 21st century’s developing fetch scene might have leveled the playing field between the sexes. However, evidence suggests the rush to online finance platforms and investments has done nothing to boost equality.

You can't force gender equality by forcing people of a specific gender to use the platform. The process is online and very transparent I doubt services will provide subpar support or target only clients of a specific gender.

Quote from: emmybd on November 11, 2020, 02:37:38 PM

Instead, the digitally driven world of artificial intelligence, Bitcoin and blockchain is as sexually unbalanced as the banking, property and commodity markets industries that preceded it. Tech industries are inherently male-dominated for reasons that include boys being introduced to gadgets at a younger age, leading to just 16% of computer science undergraduates being female.

How is that a man's fault? The beauty and fashion industry are well dominated by women as well.

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So bitcoin was being accused of sexism and I didn't even know about it. Maybe it will be called racist and homophobic soon too.
As was said above, bitcoin needs more investors and it doesn't matter if they are men or women. Each person is unique and they have their individual right to choose if they want to try it or not and eventually the individual will to like it or not. The important thing is to give everyone the chance of experiencing bitcoin and learning something about it.

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The women power is much important in each and everything. In simple the grasping power and the dedicated involvement into anything will be cent percent. On the top if a women finds it to be worthy, the spreading will happen in hypersonic speed. Women are getting into technology and as a part I expect the slow and steady increase in the number of women users.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 11, 2020, 02:56:29 PM

The bitcoin better future will reflect into people investing in it, women included. Also, just know that more women are investing in bitcoin, especially in 2020.

To state that women aren't as invested in blockchain or finance is most likely correct, at least in numbers anyway. That is not to say that there aren't powerful women overseeing these industries because of course they are.

As for BTC in particular, there isn't a sex race to see which sex gets dominance. NO! BTC and all crypto is for all humans, and all those that want to use it. And it is true especially, today women are making more progress in their numbers across all industries, so there's no much point bringing about this discussion when there's no much value derived from it.

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Have you really made research on it? In what country do you live? Probably, that is what happens in your country, but not in others.
And if you think about fewer women in Bitcoin, you also do not know everybody here, whether they are exactly male or female Cheesy

I really want to ask, does the sex really influence the digital asset? Are women really limited to enter in the crypto world and technological world? DO really banks limit women's involvement in the digitalization era?

I don't know what happens to your country, but in my country, it is not. Everybody can get into the crypto world, even the exchange in my country needs KYC (in which it will tell the truth about the sex,), they will no matter whether it is male or female. there is no limitation about it.

Quote from: Charles-Tim on November 11, 2020, 03:24:22 PM

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This is what I mean, this study shows the truth, it may be only taking the sample, but at least, this is formal research...

Women in this era are different, they also want to involve in many more things. As long as there is no regulation about it, they will be really involved in what they want.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 11, 2020, 02:56:29 PM

The bitcoin better future will reflect into people investing in it, women included. Also, just know that more women are investing in bitcoin, especially in 2020.

To state that women aren't as invested in blockchain or finance is most likely correct, at least in numbers anyway. That is not to say that there aren't powerful women overseeing these industries because of course they are.

As for BTC in particular, there isn't a sex race to see which sex gets dominance. NO! BTC and all crypto is for all humans, and all those that want to use it. And it is true especially, today women are making more progress in their numbers across all industries, so there's no much point bringing about this discussion when there's no much value derived from it.

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It's not a gender thing. Bitcoin doesn't "need" more women. There was a time someone made a thread like this. He got various points including the fact that someone us in this forum are actually female. Saying that they are female doesn't boast the transaction speed at reduce the fee. Maybe you want to create some statistics, but bitcoin?, it doesn't need women (being human is enough).

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statement is wrong many women around me hold bitcoin and bitcoin need more holders in all profession not just a matter of gender ,70% of women tend to be closed in all things including business so it cannot be concluded that there are more men than women using bitcoin

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If I may ask, have you seen even in the current times, so many women trying to do any odd jobs that men willingly do?
Odd jobs like collecting garbage, construction, Road works?

The feminists always moan about the need for equality, but they only focus on white collar jobs. So just like Bitcoin trading and mining, very few women would dare attempt to venture because some think it's a waste of time. They only get interested when the price is good. I have only one female friend who has stuck with BTC through thick and thin. Some other I knew called it scam when the price dropped to around 3k.

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Women somehow unite when the talks are about cheating boyfriends. Men unite when there is something to look forward to and in this case, is the technology behind Bitcoin.

Seriously, there are just fewer girls who are into programming and figuring out computer science. But now that BTC is widespread, girls are up to conquer as well. I can see them providing trading tutorials as well on youtube. The Internet is a plain ground for all.

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