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sr. member
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June 07, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
http://www.openmarket.org/2011/06/06/bitcoins-four-objections/

The bias is obvious with statements like:
"The unbridgeable gap here is the transition from being used by a small group of hobbyists in barter to being used by financial institutions and the man on the street as a proper money."
I think he means currently existing "financial institutions" and MY "proper money"
Maybe we can help him as a gold/BTC trader.

I left him this response:

I really think this is a misunderstanding of the regression theorem. As I understand it, the regression theorem can only be used to explain the exchange value of a good that is being used in indirect exchange. It can not be used to disqualify  any good from becoming money once it has actually established an exchange value. Even Rothbard said that once a good has exchange value, it does no longer need a use value, quote "On the other hand, while money had to originate as a directly useful commodity, for example, gold, there is no reason, in the light of the regression theorem, why such direct uses must continue afterward for the commodity to be used as money" (http://www.econlib.org/library/NPDBooks/Dolan/dlnFMA12.html).

Bitcons have an exchange value today and is being used in indirect exchange to some degree. I don't think there is anyway to deny that. So the only thing we can do with the regression theorem here, is to apply it to bitcoin and trace back it's (still somewhat limited) current exchange value in time to see where it originates from.

So bitcoin has an exchange value today since it had an exchange value yesterday. It had one yesterday since it had one the day before that and so on. If we go far enough back in time we will come to the first bitcoin exchange that ever took place (a 10.000 BTC pizza as I understand it). Why someone would actually exchange a pizza for bitcoins with no exchange value we can only guess, but reasonably the ownership of bitcoins gave him some sort of utility. According to the regression theorem (as I understand it), this very first transaction is where all of todays bitcoin value originates from. Bitcoins had some use value to someone, and this was enough to also give it an exchange value.

I think austrians should be very excited with bitcoin. It does not derive it's value from any other good (I've heard some people call it a dollar proxy).  Bitcoin is the regression theorem in action, from the beginning.




It doesn't seem to be at the web site though. Does he read through the comments before accepting them?
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June 07, 2011, 01:16:29 PM
Nice interview on CBS, Jeff!

http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-504943_162-1111.html

Edit:  I guess this was a live webcast, that I happened to tune into, at the right time.  Not sure where the archive is.



http://www.livestream.com/whatstrending/video?clipId=pla_50b35ef0-af89-4e83-9389-8e740a081c84
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June 07, 2011, 12:26:01 PM

[HUGE FOTO QUOTED]

That came out great!
Everyone who can, please, send some extra business and donations his way.

I wish people would refrain from quoting huge images, especially when it's an early answer right below the original huge image Wink
I agree and I'll do you one better! If you use the "width" argument in an img tag, you can make a huge image more friendly to those of us reading on smaller displays:

Code:
[img width=200]http://i52.tinypic.com/2hi6tex.jpg[/img]



Anyone who wants to view the image at full resolution can right-click and view the image in a separate browser tab.
sr. member
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June 07, 2011, 12:24:49 PM
Nice interview on CBS, Jeff!

http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-504943_162-1111.html

Edit:  I guess this was a live webcast, that I happened to tune into, at the right time.  Not sure where the archive is.

legendary
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June 07, 2011, 10:56:31 AM

What a low standard of journalism is accepted by mainstream publications these days. Half of the article above is quoted from Sathoshi's white paper, other half is moaning of the author and a bunch of semi intelligent questions a-la is it scam or is it our future? Lots of white noise.
sr. member
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legendary
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June 07, 2011, 09:28:52 AM
Finweek (South African finance publication) article on bitcoin posted by mizerydearia with scanned pics. In the replies I provided a text transcript of the main story.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12672.0

Overall, some technical errors but I thought it was positive for bitcoin.
donator
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June 07, 2011, 06:01:47 AM

[HUGE FOTO QUOTED]

That came out great!
Everyone who can, please, send some extra business and donations his way.

I wish people would refrain from quoting huge images, especially when it's an early answer right below the original huge image Wink

Great billboard btw, thanks memorydealer, it's HUGE, american style!
donator
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June 07, 2011, 05:58:43 AM

This piece just earned my price for "most fud-complete article". it has everything (list for english-only speakers):

  • link to very negative german bvdw press release
  • common misinterpreattion of Jason Calacanis ("most dangerous")
  • "mining not profitable due to high swiss power prices" (they used CPU to determine that fact)
  • fear-mongering about p2p infecting your computer with shit
  • reference to silk-road (not by name)
  • "danger of bubble"

The comments are extremely uninformed, just commented a lot pointing to mybitcoin.de, bitcoin.org. Unfortunately they have to be manually accepted ;(
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newbie
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June 07, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
Here is my radio interview with BBC World Service: ... Disclaimers:  Yes, I have a Southern Drawl

Great interview and howdy, from a fellow Carolinian.
hero member
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June 07, 2011, 12:43:38 AM
Switzerland's 20 minuten online: http://www.20min.ch/finance/news/story/Der-gefaehrliche-Cyber-Dollar-15423297

Although the author mainly talks about how dangerous bitcoin could be (quoting Blogger Jason Calacanis and the German BVDW), he still tries to give some "neutral" information and expresses his curiosity about whether or not bitcoin is here to stay. Does anybody know if this was in the print issue today as well? If it did, this is definitely a mainstream coverage for Switzerland. According to the German wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_Minuten#Schweiz), it is the most-read daily newspaper in Switzerland with a reach of roughly 1.5 million readers.
newbie
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June 07, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
BitCoin is the future of a single worldwide currency. It seems like God sent it.
Remember what happened to Jesus? Also God-sent...

Expect a SWAT-team in your bitcoin exchange when it threatens to go main stream.  Cool

Amen, brother, amen.
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June 06, 2011, 11:08:32 PM

FTA:
"The problem is that BitCoins aren’t issued by a government"

Aww...  Who's the sad statist?

It's okay little buddy - there's still time to wrap your head around the idea of scarcity.  We'll be right here with the bucket of crow everyone seems to be trying to force feed us.
legendary
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June 06, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
http://www.openmarket.org/2011/06/06/bitcoins-four-objections/

The bias is obvious with statements like:
"The unbridgeable gap here is the transition from being used by a small group of hobbyists in barter to being used by financial institutions and the man on the street as a proper money."
I think he means currently existing "financial institutions" and MY "proper money"
Maybe we can help him as a gold/BTC trader.


His arguments are pretty bad.
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Shamantastic!
June 06, 2011, 09:49:49 PM
http://www.openmarket.org/2011/06/06/bitcoins-four-objections/

The bias is obvious with statements like:
"The unbridgeable gap here is the transition from being used by a small group of hobbyists in barter to being used by financial institutions and the man on the street as a proper money."
I think he means currently existing "financial institutions" and MY "proper money"
Maybe we can help him as a gold/BTC trader.
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