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October 29, 2022, 04:16:20 PM
After the 2021 bull market, many people predict that 2022 will still continue to hit a new ATH. There were even predictions that said it would hit $200k.

This is how the market makers and whales will create the hype but in reality, they have some other plans, and we are 70 to 80% down when they were saying that we would be at 200K.
Previously I was also excited to hear such news, but now I have learned the lesson of not reacting to such news and speculation which the social media and crypto media houses create and fool the retail investors.

Now I've realized that ATH won't run all year round and from all that of course there is a hype plan that the whales made to manipulate the market so that their plan runs smoothly, but from all that is speculated it's also not 100% true anyway it's been 4 years bitcoin cycles have historically been the same in the sense that bitcoin will continue to experience this cycle over and over again.
Social media is often used for propaganda about the issue of market prices, there are those who continue to do FUD there is also a positive trend against FUD but from that of course we are aiming for a whale that can control all of this, therefore I believe don't believe that whales have little influence in the bitcoin market.
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October 29, 2022, 02:54:07 PM
Bitcoin was born to solve the problem of inflation and devaluation of the current currency. Therefore, buying bitcoin now is the best time, a way for us to save our wealth from inflation. In the long run, bitcoin is the only asset that will increase in value and fiat will continue to depreciate over time.
That's only part of the advantages that Bitcoin already has, so it can solve some of the problems you said. But basically I personally have considered Bitcoin as a valuable asset and also has value in the eyes of the community so it is not surprising that every year there are always additional enthusiasts for Bitcoin which they will also explore other cryptocurrencies as long as it can be very good to have as in Bitcoin example.
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October 29, 2022, 02:36:35 PM
After the 2021 bull market, many people predict that 2022 will still continue to hit a new ATH. There were even predictions that said it would hit $200k.

This is how the market makers and whales will create the hype but in reality, they have some other plans, and we are 70 to 80% down when they were saying that we would be at 200K.
Previously I was also excited to hear such news, but now I have learned the lesson of not reacting to such news and speculation which the social media and crypto media houses create and fool the retail investors.
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October 29, 2022, 02:19:01 PM

Seeing what is happening now, it is necessary to understand that the halving cycle every four years is the main reference to determine the next highest bitcoin price and after that it is certain that bitcoin will make a big correction.

It has been established by the bitcoin market history.  Great correction happened 1st after the Bitcoin ATH of 2013 and second after the Bitcoin ATH of 2017.  Only a newbie will think that ATH will continue in 2022.

Bitcoin has never lost in the long run. This is how it will go. Bitcoin has left behind many negativities, not just the pandemic.
I don't look at the news from China anymore. Even if it does affect Bitcoin, it may affect it for a short time.

If we fully zoom out the Bitcoin price chart, we can say that Bitcoin is still in the green part.  It is still in an upward trend even though there is a huge correction after the ATH of 2021.


Yes, I agree. Older people's approach to bitcoin is still not positive. They continue with the old mindset. It is very difficult to change this. But after a while this will change by itself. Bitcoin has never been wrong. Bitcoin is moving towards the goal with the right steps. Hopefully this time will be short and we'll see bitcoin hit the target.

It will only need good results of those who engage in the Bitcoin market.  Older people are somehow reserved when it comes to investing in an "unproven" market.  But once the result is very good, we can see them flocking in to invest in Bitcoin.
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October 29, 2022, 11:38:58 AM
Bitcoin was born to solve the problem of inflation and devaluation of the current currency. Therefore, buying bitcoin now is the best time, a way for us to save our wealth from inflation. In the long run, bitcoin is the only asset that will increase in value and fiat will continue to depreciate over time.
that's why people should be aware of it that bitcoin was created to solve every economic problem that is happening in the world today and even since the last pandemic bitcoin still comes out to be a profitable investment


If it was known that people could save money by investing in bitcoin, the price would have gone into space a long time ago. But for some reason that is not happening. Especially as there is an energy crisis on the doorstep in Europe. China has also banned mining. All this negativity has a big impact on bitcoin's value and people don't trust it, seeing such an investment as very risky.
how many news about china ban bitcoin mining, almost every time when the market is bearish the news always appears everywhere and it is indeed boring news to hear, bitcoin is a good investment for now


Bitcoin has never lost in the long run. This is how it will go. Bitcoin has left behind many negativities, not just the pandemic.
I don't look at the news from China anymore. Even if it does affect Bitcoin, it may affect it for a short time.

I feel like markets of cryptocurrencies still didn't reach their peak audience. Bitcoin can't compete with regular stocks. I am still getting questions from older people about how to get Bitcoin for themselves... I think these are clearly red flag that blocks Bitcoin from breaking halving cycle. Looks like this time we won't be able to break again. Its gonna be like 2018. But I think in long run, maybe one cycle after this one, we may break and go moon quicker.

Yes, I agree. Older people's approach to bitcoin is still not positive. They continue with the old mindset. It is very difficult to change this. But after a while this will change by itself. Bitcoin has never been wrong. Bitcoin is moving towards the goal with the right steps. Hopefully this time will be short and we'll see bitcoin hit the target.
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October 29, 2022, 10:39:45 AM
I feel like markets of cryptocurrencies still didn't reach their peak audience. Bitcoin can't compete with regular stocks. I am still getting questions from older people about how to get Bitcoin for themselves... I think these are clearly red flag that blocks Bitcoin from breaking halving cycle. Looks like this time we won't be able to break again. Its gonna be like 2018. But I think in long run, maybe one cycle after this one, we may break and go moon quicker.
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October 29, 2022, 09:48:07 AM
Bitcoin was born to solve the problem of inflation and devaluation of the current currency. Therefore, buying bitcoin now is the best time, a way for us to save our wealth from inflation. In the long run, bitcoin is the only asset that will increase in value and fiat will continue to depreciate over time.
that's why people should be aware of it that bitcoin was created to solve every economic problem that is happening in the world today and even since the last pandemic bitcoin still comes out to be a profitable investment


If it was known that people could save money by investing in bitcoin, the price would have gone into space a long time ago. But for some reason that is not happening. Especially as there is an energy crisis on the doorstep in Europe. China has also banned mining. All this negativity has a big impact on bitcoin's value and people don't trust it, seeing such an investment as very risky.
how many news about china ban bitcoin mining, almost every time when the market is bearish the news always appears everywhere and it is indeed boring news to hear, bitcoin is a good investment for now
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October 28, 2022, 11:02:56 PM
First I heard Bitcoin in 2013, when many countries were banned Bitcoin so I felt 3 times 4 -year trends namely in 2013, 2017 and 2021 Bitcoin prices skyrocketed then in 2014, 2018 and 2022 price drop, and if we pay attention to the 4 year cycle occurred and Almost have the same pattern.
My only worry is that bitcoin has never yet faced a global crisis. And the main thing is that this time, when most countries are experiencing economic difficulties, bitcoin will not break those four-year cycles. But I hope bitcoin and other coins do well.

This is the first time bitcoin has faced its biggest challenge, but let's not forget bitcoin was born out of the 2008 crisis. though things are being hit by the economic crisis, meaning bitcoin has yet to prove itself as an inflation hedge as it was designed to be. But in the long run that may be true, where fiat and bitcoin fall equally but over time only bitcoin rises back and fiat does not.
this is an important point that that is the reason why bitcoin was created in 2008 because to overcome this problem in the future, I think people can invest in bitcoin during an economic crisis like this to get a hedge and also keep their money here

First I heard Bitcoin in 2013, when many countries were banned Bitcoin so I felt 3 times 4 -year trends namely in 2013, 2017 and 2021 Bitcoin prices skyrocketed then in 2014, 2018 and 2022 price drop, and if we pay attention to the 4 year cycle occurred and Almost have the same pattern.
2013 maybe not many investors or famous rich people invest there
2017 may only be a few investors and the richest people invest
2021 how many famous companies, countries that legalize bitcoin, some country leaders, richest people in the world and also popular artists even anyone you may see on social media they invest in crypto as well in this bitcoin

That's why I always say there will be changes from each cycle, so do you think it will be the same too  Grin
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October 28, 2022, 10:41:12 PM
All the four years circle of Bitcoin is just a speculation which i know that Bitcoin itself can change the price anytime without the waiting for for the speculated time people mention in cryptocurrency,
Cycle not circle. Also I think it wasn't just a mere speculation but they have evidence that it can happen. If it can happen in the past then why not this time? But like you I too believe that btc can find a way to increase even if it's not that big enough but it's already fine for some of us to sell because waiting for the 4 year cycle only to see a real growth seems a long wait already.


Probable means also uncertain and it is also speculation. History may or may not repeat itself, because each time will have different developments. In the last 3 bitcoin cycles, bitcoin has never experienced a crisis like it is now, this is the first time. In the cycles before bitcoin wasn't as widely accepted or popular as it is today...Overall, there's a lot going on that history hasn't experienced, so it's impossible to be certain that history will repeat itself. It's all just speculation.
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October 28, 2022, 08:00:05 PM
First I heard Bitcoin in 2013, when many countries were banned Bitcoin so I felt 3 times 4 -year trends namely in 2013, 2017 and 2021 Bitcoin prices skyrocketed then in 2014, 2018 and 2022 price drop, and if we pay attention to the 4 year cycle occurred and Almost have the same pattern.
My only worry is that bitcoin has never yet faced a global crisis. And the main thing is that this time, when most countries are experiencing economic difficulties, bitcoin will not break those four-year cycles. But I hope bitcoin and other coins do well.

This is the first time bitcoin has faced its biggest challenge, but let's not forget bitcoin was born out of the 2008 crisis. though things are being hit by the economic crisis, meaning bitcoin has yet to prove itself as an inflation hedge as it was designed to be. But in the long run that may be true, where fiat and bitcoin fall equally but over time only bitcoin rises back and fiat does not.
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October 28, 2022, 03:23:38 PM
My only worry is that bitcoin has never yet faced a global crisis. And the main thing is that this time, when most countries are experiencing economic difficulties, bitcoin will not break those four-year cycles. But I hope bitcoin and other coins do well.
Your concerns may require attention and should make you a better decision maker. The world economy is currently not doing well considering the war between Russia and Ukraine has made the economy of many countries into chaos. Inflation is rising and there are even rumors of an impending recession next year.

I also haven't found a reason why ATH will repeat itself if economic conditions get worse, but who knows the future? ATH has push a lot of demand, probably because many traders take advantage of market conditions to make a profit. But of course you should not be greedy about all the possibilities.
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October 28, 2022, 11:40:16 AM
a very easy to read 4 year cycle, as I said in this thread also bitcoin no longer surprises us all, look people think this is a bear market because of the russian war, inflation, rising interest rates, crisis everywhere, while bitcoin is actually is the answer to it all
Actually, not only that Bitcoin can be used as an answer for investment, but Bitcoin has always been more suitable as an investment to combat all existing problems. That's why until now Bitcoin still survives and is liked by many people to solve every problem through the profits that can be obtained through Bitcoin
bitcoin price weakened for a moment when it went through the pandemic and also coincided with the bitcoin halving in 2020 then, what we saw at that time the bitcoin price recovered more quickly, I think even now the bad economic situation will not stop bitcoin being the most recommended investment and also profitable

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If recovery can occur more quickly, it means that the once in 4 year cycle doesn't last forever, right? Because it is still very early to get to 4 more years which corresponds to the cycle that occurred last year, after all, the decline that occurred in Bitcoin has not yet reached a year.
I say no need to wait 4 years to be bullish, because we don't need to repeat a cycle that has already started to break
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October 28, 2022, 05:26:12 AM
a very easy to read 4 year cycle, as I said in this thread also bitcoin no longer surprises us all, look people think this is a bear market because of the russian war, inflation, rising interest rates, crisis everywhere, while bitcoin is actually is the answer to it all
Actually, not only that Bitcoin can be used as an answer for investment, but Bitcoin has always been more suitable as an investment to combat all existing problems. That's why until now Bitcoin still survives and is liked by many people to solve every problem through the profits that can be obtained through Bitcoin

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we are all just waiting for that cycle to determine when we will all benefit and lose, all speculating the same so let's see in the next year I think we recover faster
If recovery can occur more quickly, it means that the once in 4 year cycle doesn't last forever, right? Because it is still very early to get to 4 more years which corresponds to the cycle that occurred last year, after all, the decline that occurred in Bitcoin has not yet reached a year.
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October 26, 2022, 05:45:34 PM
a very easy to read 4 year cycle, as I said in this thread also bitcoin no longer surprises us all, look people think this is a bear market because of the russian war, inflation, rising interest rates, crisis everywhere, while bitcoin is actually is the answer to it all

we are all just waiting for that cycle to determine when we will all benefit and lose, all speculating the same so let's see in the next year I think we recover faster
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October 26, 2022, 01:52:08 PM
After the 2021 bull market, many people predict that 2022 will still continue to hit a new ATH. There were even predictions that said it would hit $200k.


Source: https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2022/02/07/bitcoin-will-reach-200k-in-second-half-of-2022-fsinsight-says/

But in reality it was all wrong and instead bitcoin is down more than 70% since its high of $69k.


Source: https://cryptowat.ch/charts/BINANCE:BTC-USDT

Seeing what is happening now, it is necessary to understand that the halving cycle every four years is the main reference to determine the next highest bitcoin price and after that it is certain that bitcoin will make a big correction.
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October 26, 2022, 10:48:26 AM
All the four years circle of Bitcoin is just a speculation which i know that Bitcoin itself can change the price anytime without the waiting for for the speculated time people mention in cryptocurrency,
Cycle not circle. Also I think it wasn't just a mere speculation but they have evidence that it can happen. If it can happen in the past then why not this time? But like you I too believe that btc can find a way to increase even if it's not that big enough but it's already fine for some of us to sell because waiting for the 4 year cycle only to see a real growth seems a long wait already.

so i believe that price of Bitcoin will increase when people who is crypto investors enter market, so that's what i believe that Bitcoin can make the price to rise by the investors
Crypto investors? What about you, or me. I am sure you also invest in crypto but we are still here. We didn't leave the market. We are continuously buying and hodling but that didn't made any big changes. What you really mean there is if the newbies in enter the crypto market or when the crypto adoption increases. Add in if those who quit last time came back. That would greatly help the price rise.
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October 26, 2022, 10:35:55 AM
as I said this 4 year cycle has happened 3 times, every cycle we have big investors, for example in yesterday's cycle we have many big companies and even big investors, rich people enter the crypto world and invest in bitcoin, so what will it be? the same as the previous cycle, I don't think so, there will be a difference when this bearish is different from the previous bearish
Then, will the four-year cycle happen again for the fourth time in Bitcoin? Because if there is a bearish difference that occurs this year, there will also be a difference in the amount of increase that can occur in Bitcoin even though it has not been four years when calculated from the year the price decreased.

For now I'm starting to believe that the increase in Bitcoin will occur in a small size, because having more buyers in the near future for Bitcoin is very difficult, especially now that the world economy is not in a good condition, so investors and companies Those who already like Bitcoin will also make as much consideration as possible when buying in bearish conditions although such conditions are always better to make a purchase.
as you can see from the results of the poll in this thread, almost on average they say the 4 year cycle will still work as usual, it's just that people need to be careful for the next cycle of course they will compete in throwing away and taking profits in 2025 because it's easy to guess, so there are no surprises, but I hope bitcoin will surprise everyone in the near future, talking about economic problems that occur in this world the answer is only one, namely bitcoin, that's why bitcoin was created to solve that problem
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October 26, 2022, 07:07:55 AM
as I said this 4 year cycle has happened 3 times, every cycle we have big investors, for example in yesterday's cycle we have many big companies and even big investors, rich people enter the crypto world and invest in bitcoin, so what will it be? the same as the previous cycle, I don't think so, there will be a difference when this bearish is different from the previous bearish
Then, will the four-year cycle happen again for the fourth time in Bitcoin? Because if there is a bearish difference that occurs this year, there will also be a difference in the amount of increase that can occur in Bitcoin even though it has not been four years when calculated from the year the price decreased.

For now I'm starting to believe that the increase in Bitcoin will occur in a small size, because having more buyers in the near future for Bitcoin is very difficult, especially now that the world economy is not in a good condition, so investors and companies Those who already like Bitcoin will also make as much consideration as possible when buying in bearish conditions although such conditions are always better to make a purchase.
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October 26, 2022, 05:01:00 AM

bitcoin for some time is only playing at $19k and $20k as I said before, people don't notice that every cycle there is always a difference and it's never the same, because of market conditions and investors who invest, look at one of them is Elon musk although I don't like it but in the third cycle year before 2021 how many big companies invest in bitcoin as well as rich people or famous artists even state leaders, it's different from the previous cycle where bitcoin has no one and the price falls more sharply, that's why I say again this is all the economic problems that exist today the solution is bitcoin and i believe that bitcoin will recover faster than people imagine

I'm not sure if the 4-year cycle repeats itself, but there are many predictions about it because it has simply happened 3 times in the past as you mentioned. But I agree with you one thing is that they will not be the same because simply bitcoin and the market are growing so there will be differences. For example, this year we have many companies and countries in the game, it is very unlikely that bitcoin will fall further, I think they will not let that happen because it will also cause them to crash. Anyway it's all just speculation and everyone's opinion is different, let time tell us.
yes that is the purpose of this thread, having discussions by members in this forum sharing any experiences about analyzing and speculating on bitcoin prices in the future, there has never been a similarity in history in each cycle, so it is necessary to explore whether this cycle will be implemented or the price will recover faster than usual

Amazing, because today the price rises more than 6% and the price returns to the level of $ 20k, I hope this is the beginning of the bull run so that the long wait for almost a year will occur, the last time I bought Bitcoin when the price is around $ 28k and has never sold Bitcoin Because it will automatically lose money, and I hope this year the price can reach at least $ 30k.
yes but i'm not sure, let time will answer all the questions people have in this thread, hopefully bitcoin and crypto prices recover faster than usual
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October 26, 2022, 04:58:01 AM
Amazing, because today the price rises more than 6% and the price returns to the level of $ 20k, I hope this is the beginning of the bull run so that the long wait for almost a year will occur, the last time I bought Bitcoin when the price is around $ 28k and has never sold Bitcoin Because it will automatically lose money, and I hope this year the price can reach at least $ 30k.

It is easy to impress you Smiley

We have one day of growth after stagnation, or the price basically has returned to where it was 2 months ago, and already "bull run" or "market has changed direction" posts popped up. I think people has started to early to celebrate. Just wait till next week and we would drop back to 19k.

As to 4 year cycle - I think this is just a coincidence that every 4 years Bitcoin price goes significantly. If this was really a 4 year cycle, then why Bitcoin heavy price drops did not happen exactly on fourth year, exactly same time ?
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