Bitcoin price with a 4 year cycle? - page 8.

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Quote from: Jating on September 23, 2022, 05:22:40 PM

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The percentage level of decline in Bitcoin has always been different in the time period you mentioned and yes it is also the rate of increase in every four years because Bitcoin is not at the same ATH in every four years. That's the evidence that many people have seen by now and the possibility for a major upgrade cycle over the course of every four years, I think will still be there and happening in Bitcoin.

But as the cycle continues the percentage will not be the same obviously. The rate of increase might be somewhat lessen as compare to the previous run. It's because the price is really very high or going to a level that not everyone can invest a lot and only the whales will have the money to invest huge amount. In any case though, we average joe can be part of the next bull run, just invest small and what we can afford in this bear market. And maybe in the next bull run, the price will be in the 6 digit

Percentage may of course change, which it has every time we have gone up, but the idea that it will be bigger than the last ATH will stay, we do not drop too much further anymore, we do not stay at ATH anymore, that's what the cycle means.

Last cycle we went from under 1k to over 20k and dropped to 3k and never seen under 1k again, this cycle we managed to go over 20k ,and seen it reach 68k and drop to around 18k at lowest and never seen under 10k again. Next time around I guarantee it will be over 68k, and it is going to be something like "never see under 40k again" or maybe 50k who knows. That's how it progresses, so it gives ease of mind to me for sure.

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Quote from: Tony116 on September 24, 2022, 09:08:52 AM

My personal view is that 2024 will be a better year for the world economy, regardless of whether the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, the Fed rate hikes can be paused or significantly reduced for the economy to grow.

It's because that's the usual cycle for most economies, it won't be staying at the lowest forever but there will be economies that will surely be left behind if their local government does nothing. Just like what we've seen in countries like Venezuela, Zimbabwe and Argentina. Sure, the other economies will recover, those that have a recovery plan and have it on execution.

Quote from: Tony116 on September 24, 2022, 09:08:52 AM

Since the United States will enter the presidential election in 2024, they will certainly have to find ways to make the election go smoothly without any obstacles. So we are right to expect a better market in 2024.

Thus, halving is gonna happen for bitcoin at that year. That's why the crypto market will become better by that time.

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Quote from: Jating on September 23, 2022, 05:22:40 PM

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 23, 2022, 06:32:29 AM

yes I'm also sure a lot of people selling their Bitcoins hit the bottom $20k and the whales always catch it below it, when it's under $20k it always comes back above $20k when the whales take it, I guess it's a matter of time to see the market recover soon, events 2018 not the same as 2014 nor 2022 is never the same as 2018 please pay attention to the charts

The percentage level of decline in Bitcoin has always been different in the time period you mentioned and yes it is also the rate of increase in every four years because Bitcoin is not at the same ATH in every four years. That's the evidence that many people have seen by now and the possibility for a major upgrade cycle over the course of every four years, I think will still be there and happening in Bitcoin.

But as the cycle continues the percentage will not be the same obviously. The rate of increase might be somewhat lessen as compare to the previous run. It's because the price is really very high or going to a level that not everyone can invest a lot and only the whales will have the money to invest huge amount. In any case though, we average joe can be part of the next bull run, just invest small and what we can afford in this bear market. And maybe in the next bull run, the price will be in the 6 digit

the percentages are not completely the same if we look back at the charts and i'm worried in case of the next 4 year cycle it won't even touch above $100k because i know people will throw it down before that price because of the same repeating moments and all the whales taking advantage of us all caught up in that cyclical mind

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 23, 2022, 06:32:29 AM

I'm also sure a lot of people selling their Bitcoins hit the bottom $20k and the whales always catch it below it, when it's under $20k it always comes back above $20k when the whales take it, I guess it's a matter of time to see the market recover soon, events 2018 not the same as 2014 nor 2022 is never the same as 2018 please pay attention to the charts

Whales are rich people for a reason. It's clear that if you are investing when it is at the bottom then even if it goes down a little bit more, it can't go down too much more and the result will be a big profit when it recovers. This doesn't mean that you should be investing whenever you want, of course make your own deductions on when to invest, but buying it when it's so much lower than it used to be means it should be a good profit.

I mean we are nearly 3x away from the ATH and that's a good thing, we should definitely look into it. That means having some sort of profit already calculated in with the ATH will make it easier in the minds as well.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 24, 2022, 07:47:39 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 23, 2022, 09:07:14 AM

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2023 might be worst and the actual start of the bull run could be 2024, right after the bitcoin halving. So if everything stays as it should be to be, then the 4 year cycle will continue.

Well that's what we see in 2020, the pandemic really bring the worst in everyone and yet after the halving the market recovered and slowly goes into a massive bull run. So I'm expecting that even with the recession 2024 might be year that we will see all market bouncing back.

My personal view is that 2024 will be a better year for the world economy, regardless of whether the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, the Fed rate hikes can be paused or significantly reduced for the economy to grow.
Since the United States will enter the presidential election in 2024, they will certainly have to find ways to make the election go smoothly without any obstacles. So we are right to expect a better market in 2024.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 23, 2022, 09:07:14 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 23, 2022, 06:32:29 AM

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I don't think a bull market is to be expected this year or even early quarter next year, that's unlikely. The price speculation to $10k will always be a possibility, considering how much percentage we got tank last 2018 bear market. My maximum bet will be on the range of $13k-$14k though that will gonna hit here and probably the 4 year cycle isn't gonna happen anymore.

I understand people will always look at 2018 and fear that it could always get worse, but I do not believe that it will be the case this time around at all. We already found the bottom, 17.6k was the bottom this time around and even with fed increase and crashes and problems we haven't reached back there even though we were close.

This means that unless some whale starts to sell thousands of bitcoins all at the same time, the price will not go there. A lot of people bought it when it was much higher, and the ones who said enough is enough ended up selling and getting out, I doubt that it would go any worse than it is right now.

yes I'm also sure a lot of people selling their Bitcoins hit the bottom $20k and the whales always catch it below it, when it's under $20k it always comes back above $20k when the whales take it, I guess it's a matter of time to see the market recover soon, events 2018 not the same as 2014 nor 2022 is never the same as 2018 please pay attention to the charts

I'm still leaning towards the market's four-year cycle argument, maybe things won't be exactly the same year after year but to expect a bull season earlier than 2025 is unlikely. The market has companies participating, some countries there is no guarantee that the market will not have a 4-year cycle.
I don't know what you saw on the chart, but just looking at the current world situation, it's unlikely a bull run will come any time soon, possibly even worse in 2023 when the Fed says they There's no reason to stop or slow down rate hikes. I still fear that the bear cycle will last more than 4 years if the war doesn't end and inflation doesn't cool down.

2023 might be worst and the actual start of the bull run could be 2024, right after the bitcoin halving. So if everything stays as it should be to be, then the 4 year cycle will continue.

Well that's what we see in 2020, the pandemic really bring the worst in everyone and yet after the halving the market recovered and slowly goes into a massive bull run. So I'm expecting that even with the recession 2024 might be year that we will see all market bouncing back.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on September 23, 2022, 09:29:18 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 23, 2022, 06:32:29 AM

yes I'm also sure a lot of people selling their Bitcoins hit the bottom $20k and the whales always catch it below it, when it's under $20k it always comes back above $20k when the whales take it, I guess it's a matter of time to see the market recover soon, events 2018 not the same as 2014 nor 2022 is never the same as 2018 please pay attention to the charts

The percentage level of decline in Bitcoin has always been different in the time period you mentioned and yes it is also the rate of increase in every four years because Bitcoin is not at the same ATH in every four years. That's the evidence that many people have seen by now and the possibility for a major upgrade cycle over the course of every four years, I think will still be there and happening in Bitcoin.

But as the cycle continues the percentage will not be the same obviously. The rate of increase might be somewhat lessen as compare to the previous run. It's because the price is really very high or going to a level that not everyone can invest a lot and only the whales will have the money to invest huge amount. In any case though, we average joe can be part of the next bull run, just invest small and what we can afford in this bear market. And maybe in the next bull run, the price will be in the 6 digit

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 23, 2022, 06:32:29 AM

yes I'm also sure a lot of people selling their Bitcoins hit the bottom $20k and the whales always catch it below it, when it's under $20k it always comes back above $20k when the whales take it, I guess it's a matter of time to see the market recover soon, events 2018 not the same as 2014 nor 2022 is never the same as 2018 please pay attention to the charts

The percentage level of decline in Bitcoin has always been different in the time period you mentioned and yes it is also the rate of increase in every four years because Bitcoin is not at the same ATH in every four years. That's the evidence that many people have seen by now and the possibility for a major upgrade cycle over the course of every four years, I think will still be there and happening in Bitcoin.

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 23, 2022, 06:32:29 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on September 23, 2022, 05:52:03 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 22, 2022, 09:27:55 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I don't think a bull market is to be expected this year or even early quarter next year, that's unlikely. The price speculation to $10k will always be a possibility, considering how much percentage we got tank last 2018 bear market. My maximum bet will be on the range of $13k-$14k though that will gonna hit here and probably the 4 year cycle isn't gonna happen anymore.

I understand people will always look at 2018 and fear that it could always get worse, but I do not believe that it will be the case this time around at all. We already found the bottom, 17.6k was the bottom this time around and even with fed increase and crashes and problems we haven't reached back there even though we were close.

This means that unless some whale starts to sell thousands of bitcoins all at the same time, the price will not go there. A lot of people bought it when it was much higher, and the ones who said enough is enough ended up selling and getting out, I doubt that it would go any worse than it is right now.

yes I'm also sure a lot of people selling their Bitcoins hit the bottom $20k and the whales always catch it below it, when it's under $20k it always comes back above $20k when the whales take it, I guess it's a matter of time to see the market recover soon, events 2018 not the same as 2014 nor 2022 is never the same as 2018 please pay attention to the charts

I'm still leaning towards the market's four-year cycle argument, maybe things won't be exactly the same year after year but to expect a bull season earlier than 2025 is unlikely. The market has companies participating, some countries there is no guarantee that the market will not have a 4-year cycle.
I don't know what you saw on the chart, but just looking at the current world situation, it's unlikely a bull run will come any time soon, possibly even worse in 2023 when the Fed says they There's no reason to stop or slow down rate hikes. I still fear that the bear cycle will last more than 4 years if the war doesn't end and inflation doesn't cool down.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on September 23, 2022, 05:52:03 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 22, 2022, 09:27:55 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I don't think a bull market is to be expected this year or even early quarter next year, that's unlikely. The price speculation to $10k will always be a possibility, considering how much percentage we got tank last 2018 bear market. My maximum bet will be on the range of $13k-$14k though that will gonna hit here and probably the 4 year cycle isn't gonna happen anymore.

I understand people will always look at 2018 and fear that it could always get worse, but I do not believe that it will be the case this time around at all. We already found the bottom, 17.6k was the bottom this time around and even with fed increase and crashes and problems we haven't reached back there even though we were close.

This means that unless some whale starts to sell thousands of bitcoins all at the same time, the price will not go there. A lot of people bought it when it was much higher, and the ones who said enough is enough ended up selling and getting out, I doubt that it would go any worse than it is right now.

yes I'm also sure a lot of people selling their Bitcoins hit the bottom $20k and the whales always catch it below it, when it's under $20k it always comes back above $20k when the whales take it, I guess it's a matter of time to see the market recover soon, events 2018 not the same as 2014 nor 2022 is never the same as 2018 please pay attention to the charts

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 22, 2022, 09:27:55 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I don't think a bull market is to be expected this year or even early quarter next year, that's unlikely. The price speculation to $10k will always be a possibility, considering how much percentage we got tank last 2018 bear market. My maximum bet will be on the range of $13k-$14k though that will gonna hit here and probably the 4 year cycle isn't gonna happen anymore.

I understand people will always look at 2018 and fear that it could always get worse, but I do not believe that it will be the case this time around at all. We already found the bottom, 17.6k was the bottom this time around and even with fed increase and crashes and problems we haven't reached back there even though we were close.

This means that unless some whale starts to sell thousands of bitcoins all at the same time, the price will not go there. A lot of people bought it when it was much higher, and the ones who said enough is enough ended up selling and getting out, I doubt that it would go any worse than it is right now.

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Quote from: newdevices on September 22, 2022, 07:45:31 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I'm still realistic about it, because it's true that $10k can be achieved and $20k can also be achieved,
it's just that if you look at the news and market sentiment, of course the bears are still in favor, it's just that September is about to end,
and October according to the history of currency prices crypto is always bullish, of course this makes us believe that $20k is possible in October, even $40k.

yes that's what keeps the price of bitcoin being pushed to touch $20k if the price is below it, because it never seems to change always playing at the same number to wait for a bull market

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I don't think a bull market is to be expected this year or even early quarter next year, that's unlikely. The price speculation to $10k will always be a possibility, considering how much percentage we got tank last 2018 bear market. My maximum bet will be on the range of $13k-$14k though that will gonna hit here and probably the 4 year cycle isn't gonna happen anymore.

yes that is also true but it looks like the price will continue to be stuck not far from $20k and it looks like it will continue like that waiting for the bull market to arrive, sometimes history is never the same is it

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 22, 2022, 09:27:55 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I don't think a bull market is to be expected this year or even early quarter next year, that's unlikely. The price speculation to $10k will always be a possibility, considering how much percentage we got tank last 2018 bear market. My maximum bet will be on the range of $13k-$14k though that will gonna hit here and probably the 4 year cycle isn't gonna happen anymore.

Yes, I believe so. This bear market has been around before, and it's always the same. The excitement dies off, people look at their bags and wonder what they are doing. There is always a turning point when the bull returns, but we don't know when it will be. We build our portfolios in bear markets, and this community is built in bear markets. There is no doubt in my mind that better days are ahead.

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I don't think a bull market is to be expected this year or even early quarter next year, that's unlikely. The price speculation to $10k will always be a possibility, considering how much percentage we got tank last 2018 bear market. My maximum bet will be on the range of $13k-$14k though that will gonna hit here and probably the 4 year cycle isn't gonna happen anymore.

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 21, 2022, 12:59:07 PM

bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

I'm still realistic about it, because it's true that $10k can be achieved and $20k can also be achieved,
it's just that if you look at the news and market sentiment, of course the bears are still in favor, it's just that September is about to end,
and October according to the history of currency prices crypto is always bullish, of course this makes us believe that $20k is possible in October, even $40k.

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bitcoin has always been near $20k and it has always stayed there, just waiting for time to recover and get a bull market, what do you think about this and do you believe bitcoin will hit $10k

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Quote from: lepbagong on August 23, 2022, 07:39:31 AM

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I still strongly believe in the existence of a 4-year cycle in cryptocurrencies,
because in recent years the 4-year cycle has been proven true, 2021 the bitcoin pump price is high and reaches new ath,
so 2025 if according to the cycle, Bitcoin can reach new ath again, I prediction can be up to $ 200k Grin

The halving has clearly been proven, you are absolutely right that it is inevitable and bitcoin will repeat it again, the way it continues so far has brought tangible evidence.
after the halving period, there will be a large increase and will create renewable ATH, so that when the next halving is in 2024, ATH will be created in 2025.
but it looks like the price of $200K is too high and seems ambitious, because what bitcoin needs is to first break through the $100K resistance it has always wanted.

$100k was also hard to come by in 2021 so not sure if it will hit $200k for the next few years if the bitcoin price drops below $10k as the lowest price, but if it stays above $20k I think it will be easier to hit $100k, but I bet bitcoin won't wait long in 2025 even we will touch it before 2025

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I still strongly believe in the existence of a 4-year cycle in cryptocurrencies,
because in recent years the 4-year cycle has been proven true, 2021 the bitcoin pump price is high and reaches new ath,
so 2025 if according to the cycle, Bitcoin can reach new ath again, I prediction can be up to $ 200k Grin

The halving has clearly been proven, you are absolutely right that it is inevitable and bitcoin will repeat it again, the way it continues so far has brought tangible evidence.
after the halving period, there will be a large increase and will create renewable ATH, so that when the next halving is in 2024, ATH will be created in 2025.
but it looks like the price of $200K is too high and seems ambitious, because what bitcoin needs is to first break through the $100K resistance it has always wanted.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on August 22, 2022, 11:43:50 PM

When compared to the price of ATH that had occurred in 2021, we lost about 70%, and I think negative trends every 4 years are repeated, for the Pope, of course this is an opportunity to buy at a cheap price, I suggest not to panic to see the current phenomenon, focus Buy and hold for the long term.

strangely people are waiting for it to be below $10k like the previous year, even though if you look at the ATH price yesterday it should have been $20k including the cheapest price and has fallen more than 70% and bitcoin has never dropped more than 90% even now I'm still collecting a little little by little to buy it if it goes under $20k, long term investment is good

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When compared to the price of ATH that had occurred in 2021, we lost about 70%, and I think negative trends every 4 years are repeated, for the Pope, of course this is an opportunity to buy at a cheap price, I suggest not to panic to see the current phenomenon, focus Buy and hold for the long term.

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