Bitcoin reduces unemployment - page 183.

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in my opinion , yes theres many people who resigned to their job , just to have time for bitcoin , because its more easy to earn money , and you dont need to hassle , you just have to post , reply , and apply , and most important is patience

In this case my opinion is that bitcoin reduce unemployment and bitcoin is reducing it more every day. A big number of people are unaware of bitcoin and many countries are not interested still in bitcoin but when they will know and use it I think unemployment will decrease significantly.

To completely reduce or decrease the unemployment rate then we should spread bitcoin awareness to different people and also different countries because if they will realized that bitcoin is a good source of income and also an opportunity to grab then the people especially those unemployed will just work in bitcoin and they will make more money for a living.

Emploment is no longer a problem since btc is created and we can earn more here depending on our works and task made than in our regular jobs.

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Quote from: Jako0203 on June 18, 2017, 10:30:02 PM

in my opinion , yes theres many people who resigned to their job , just to have time for bitcoin , because its more easy to earn money , and you dont need to hassle , you just have to post , reply , and apply , and most important is patience

In this case my opinion is that bitcoin reduce unemployment and bitcoin is reducing it more every day. A big number of people are unaware of bitcoin and many countries are not interested still in bitcoin but when they will know and use it I think unemployment will decrease significantly.

To completely reduce or decrease the unemployment rate then we should spread bitcoin awareness to different people and also different countries because if they will realized that bitcoin is a good source of income and also an opportunity to grab then the people especially those unemployed will just work in bitcoin and they will make more money for a living.

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Quote from: Jako0203 on June 18, 2017, 10:30:02 PM

in my opinion , yes theres many people who resigned to their job , just to have time for bitcoin , because its more easy to earn money , and you dont need to hassle , you just have to post , reply , and apply , and most important is patience

In this case my opinion is that bitcoin can reduce unemployment and bitcoin is reducing it more every day. A big number of people are unaware of bitcoin and many countries are not interested still in bitcoin but when they will know and use it I think unemployment will decrease significantly.

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I agree, because people wants extra income especially those needs income an unemployed people. Bitcoin is a big help to people even if they in their house they earn money. Because bitcoin is a easy to earn. These are the benefits of bitcoin in unemployment people. In bitcoin they need focus and effort and have an internet access. It is true that bitcoin reduces unemployment it require hard work. Bitcoin gives a good future and better and it has a potential to reduce unemployment and gives opportunity to the people. Bitcoin is easy to earn and its advantages to the unemployment.

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Bitcoin does help more peoples into getting jobs online, so I guess that would help reduce unemployment in some ways, there are a few freelance sites out there that are paying freelancer to get the job done. And some of the job are offered on a contract basis, so this would allow anyone with the required skills by the company to be able to work from the comfort at home.

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Bitcoin does help in easing or alleviating the life of some people who are familiar with it and are using it, but it wouldn't help reducing the number of unemployed people unless there would be official jobs made by bitcoin and some companies. Statistically, people who receive money from bitcoin still would be considered unemployed unless they are working for some company or organization. Bitcoin would somehow help them financially yes, but it wouldn't reduce unemployment simply because they are getting some money from bitcoin.

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Well, I'm not an anarchist and I think the government should intervene in the economy and in other parts of life, or otherwise it wouldn't be a strong government and would have all the chances to be overthrown, and I don't want that to happen. But namely because I support the state capitalism in general I think the situations when a capitalist state might look like a semi-dictatorship should be avoided.

Back on topic. If Bitcoin can reduce unemployment in some undeveloped countries the governments of the developed countries of the West should think twice whether to prevent it or not

I think you can't have it both ways

Basically, the first part of your post is quite antagonistic to what you say later. If you are all in for the state capitalism and strong government, you can't possibly say that it "should think twice whether to prevent" reduction of the unemployment in the undeveloped countries via outsourcing local jobs. As to me, the economic interventions of a strong government (which you mention) should be aimed specifically at protecting local jobs (in this case), otherwise it is either not a strong government or outright treacherous and rogue one. Other than that, I tend to disagree that this approach can ever be considered as dictatorial

I agree. You convinced me that if a government, being a strong one, does its job we shouldn't call it dictatorial. The formulations I used earlier I learned from the libertarian ideas floating around forums I visited some time ago, but now I see that you are absolutely right. It's either a weak government which can be easily overthrown by some barbarians or it's a strong government, we can't have it both ways

These things are heavily intertwined

In fact, strong governments don't need to be dictatorial since if they are strong internally, this strength necessarily comes from a strong economy and with strong economy the government doesn't need to regulate economy in a "manual mode", so to speak, i.e. via using their administrative muscle. Thus there is no need for means which could otherwise be interpreted as dictatorial, totalitarian or autocratic. Strictly speaking, if the economy is strong there is no need even to prevent outsourcing since instead of a low paid job that has been outsourced to a developing country a new higher paid job is created. I'd rather say that it is exactly the creation of higher paid jobs itself that makes this shift possible, and that likely had been the case in the US till mid 2000's when the US economy started to slow down and outsourcing began to be a real pain in the ass

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Quote from: RENATA612 on May 27, 2017, 04:14:50 PM

I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?

You are right but it is still better if we have them both so that we can double our income. We can earn to our Job and at the same time earning bitcoin. We can do multitask it is possible if we want to. Cheesy

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Bitcoin definitely reduces unemployment and I am a live example of it as I was jobless and was not having any source of income but after knowing bitcoins I don't need any other full time job as I am earning good money only from bitcoins.

yeah bitcoin reduce the unemployment there is jobless people are earning good income from bitcoin trading and we can earn unlimited profit from bitcoin and if we invest our money in bitcoin and then hold it for the future we will be get a big profit in the future.

Bitcoin is able to make a bigger role than that, before I was a freelancer and did not have a steady job, I have daily confusion about the future and economic stability, after knowing bitcoin, I can anticipate everything. The point of all this is that I was previously unemployed, now I can teach bitcoin to other unemployed so the benefits are more complex than just the word "personal"

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Quote from: matthona on June 22, 2017, 05:43:56 AM

Bitcoin definitely reduces unemployment and I am a live example of it as I was jobless and was not having any source of income but after knowing bitcoins I don't need any other full time job as I am earning good money only from bitcoins.

yeah bitcoin reduce the unemployment there is jobless people are earning good income from bitcoin trading and we can earn unlimited profit from bitcoin and if we invest our money in bitcoin and then hold it for the future we will be get a big profit in the future.

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Quote from: canvan on June 21, 2017, 06:40:35 AM

Bitcoin doesn't produce anything so you can't say it reduces unemployment, rather it redistributes wealth from certain people in the world to the tech savy ones.

Anything can happen it’s true that time makes everything possible but as I know bitcoin is getting famous among people and countries as well and progressing well so I think it is quite difficult now and will be nearly impossible in future it’s my mind but I can’t say it conformly because it depends on time and users

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Quote from: canvan on June 21, 2017, 06:40:35 AM

Bitcoin doesn't produce anything so you can't say it reduces unemployment, rather it redistributes wealth from certain people in the world to the tech savy ones.

The above person is right bitcoin does not produce anything so we cannot say bitcoin reduces unemployment but on the other side many people who dont works is now investing in bitcoin and making money some are saving it for long time and some are using the benefits daily so I think its true bitcoin reduces unemployment

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Well, I'm not an anarchist and I think the government should intervene in the economy and in other parts of life, or otherwise it wouldn't be a strong government and would have all the chances to be overthrown, and I don't want that to happen. But namely because I support the state capitalism in general I think the situations when a capitalist state might look like a semi-dictatorship should be avoided.

Back on topic. If Bitcoin can reduce unemployment in some undeveloped countries the governments of the developed countries of the West should think twice whether to prevent it or not

I think you can't have it both ways

Basically, the first part of your post is quite antagonistic to what you say later. If you are all in for the state capitalism and strong government, you can't possibly say that it "should think twice whether to prevent" reduction of the unemployment in the undeveloped countries via outsourcing local jobs. As to me, the economic interventions of a strong government (which you mention) should be aimed specifically at protecting local jobs (in this case), otherwise it is either not a strong government or outright treacherous and rogue one. Other than that, I tend to disagree that this approach can ever be considered as dictatorial

I agree. You convinced me that if a government, being a strong one, does its job we shouldn't call it dictatorial. The formulations I used earlier I learned from the libertarian ideas floating around forums I visited some time ago, but now I see that you are absolutely right. It's either a weak government which can be easily overthrown by some barbarians or it's a strong government, we can't have it both ways.

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Quote from: RENATA612 on May 27, 2017, 04:14:50 PM

I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?

Not really bitcoin is not the same with the real work in the real world which is the best thing is to have a descent job to earn real money for it and base on my experience while using bitcoin it is better to not focus on it just have a little time on bitcoin it is like our side line to earn money to spend for the month. Bitcoin don't need to hard work investment is easy as counting 123 also trading just set the goal price and wait for it.

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Quote from: matthona on June 22, 2017, 05:43:56 AM

Bitcoin definitely reduces unemployment and I am a live example of it as I was jobless and was not having any source of income but after knowing bitcoins I don't need any other full time job as I am earning good money only from bitcoins.

With good strategy and investment it can make you good amount of money.

If you mine for example you can have good income, if you follow news about stock and alts speculation you can make it to, off course there are ICO and you can test your luck good ones can make extremely well income at the end. Doing some sort of job is also good, but in your case there are some that see this as opportunity to make addition income and some like you can make living from it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 22, 2017, 02:56:45 AM

Well, I'm not an anarchist and I think the government should intervene in the economy and in other parts of life, or otherwise it wouldn't be a strong government and would have all the chances to be overthrown, and I don't want that to happen. But namely because I support the state capitalism in general I think the situations when a capitalist state might look like a semi-dictatorship should be avoided.

Back on topic. If Bitcoin can reduce unemployment in some undeveloped countries the governments of the developed countries of the West should think twice whether to prevent it or not

I think you can't have it both ways

Basically, the first part of your post is quite antagonistic to what you say later. If you are all in for the state capitalism and strong government, you can't possibly say that it "should think twice whether to prevent" reduction of the unemployment in the undeveloped (underdeveloped) countries via outsourcing local jobs. As to me, the economic interventions of a strong government (which you mention) should be aimed specifically at protecting local jobs (in this case), otherwise it is either not a strong government or outright treacherous and rogue one. Other than that, I tend to disagree that this approach can ever be considered as dictatorial

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Bitcoin definitely reduces unemployment and I am a live example of it as I was jobless and was not having any source of income but after knowing bitcoins I don't need any other full time job as I am earning good money only from bitcoins.

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Quote from: Doms on June 19, 2017, 07:54:59 AM

Judging from the local posts I read everywhere, I think it is fair to assume that bitcoin, in a way or another, has helped lessen unemployment, either directly or indirectly, especially those from places where real full time jobs are hard to come by, and every dollar means a lot already.

I agree, especially when you simply have no time for a full time job becauase you study in a University. And I disagree with those saying that bitcoin just takes jobs from one part of people and gives them to another. You can say something like that about any job providing business. Say a company from the UK builds a clothing factory in Vietnam thus providing Vietnamese with jobs, but some might say that's a job stealing from the UK's workers.

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And how does it help reduce unemployment?

You may in fact not care but the American citizens certainly do (since otherwise they wouldn't have chosen Trump as the US president in the first place). Further, if we are talking about the US specifically (which is what you mentioned yourself in your example), I'm afraid it is nowhere near "you can get a good welfare and still live". Unemployment benefits and social welfare are for pussies and Europeans, dying destitute under the bridge is the American way!

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I've never been to America but from what I hear about the USA lately I think you are right. I was wrong in choosing America as an example, it's more like the things I described, a good welfare and decent living without having a job, happen in developed countries of Europe, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and such. But still, although I'm very sorry for the unemployed people of America, I think outsourcing should never be called a problem in the free market and that the government shouldn't regulate this

This is impossible by definition

The very concept of government goes against free market. Basically, government can force their stance where they don't agree with free market. So it is not really a question which lies in the scope of free market as such since government is effectively beyond the idea of free market. In other words, outsourcing may not be a problem in free market but it certainly is at the government (country) level, so they deal with it as they see appropriate

Okay, but I thought that the West in general supports free market and that only in dictatorship countries the economy is regulated by government, but I was wrong apparently. Now it looks to me that in fact there is no "free world" but there's rather a semi-dictatorship world, in terms of the economy at least

This all depends on your point of view, obviously

If you think yourself as a strong supporter of and apologist for the laissez-faire economy, in which "transactions between private parties are free from government intervention such as regulation, privileges, tariffs, and subsidies" (as per Wikipedia), then you would evidently think of any government intervention as a sort of "semi-dictatorship". On the other hand, if you support the doctrine of strong government and state capitalism (more or less), where the state itself is heavily engaged in commercial activities, you would consider such protectionist measures not only as natural but even obligatory and quite useful (for the state)

Well, I'm not an anarchist and I think the government should intervene in the economy and in other parts of life, or otherwise it wouldn't be a strong government and would have all the chances to be overthrown, and I don't want that to happen. But namely because I support the state capitalism in general I think the situations when a capitalist state might look like a semi-dictatorship should be avoided.

Back on topic. If Bitcoin can reduce unemployment in some undeveloped countries the governments of the developed countries of the West should think twice whether to prevent it or not.

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If it is true that bitcoin creates jobs and employment opportunities as the crypto industry grows, one can make a case for bitcoin reducing unemployment worldwide without too much trouble, as I'm certain many in this thread have already done.

In addition to this, a case could be made for bitcoin creating wealth where its needed most among the poor to middle class income brackets, which in turn creates many advantages which lead to jobs being created.

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