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Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

14 days after your message, we've seen the result. Bitcoin had an absolute victory over bitcoin cash. At the first day, they pumped bitcoin cash, yet it couldn't keep going in that way.

Definitely Bitcoins will not defeat by a bitcoin cash that just created because of fork and still its just an another alt in crptocurrency that has been at its good value or good price because its new to market. BItcoin will continue to rise while bitcoin cash will no longer be a good coin after all when Ethereum and some top coins goes back to their active market .

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Lol it's still i would choose BITCOIN the mother coin of all of them hehehe. Nitcoin Cash is just a fork of BITCOIN maybe there's a time that Bitcoin Cash would blow but BITCOIN still the best of them hehe

bitcoin already touched the new ATH above $4000 that was so crazy, but what already happened with bitcoin cash? nothing happen at least the more people want to buy the real bitcoin. the price of bitcoin is really promising right now.

If you look at it that way, Bitcoin Cash started from zero.

While Bitcoin has reached $4000, the potential increase in Bitcoin Cash is much more. Bitcoin Cash can double in price easily, and people wouldn't be surprised. If Bitcoin reaches $8000, it would be a great deal.

Yes, that’s true. Bitcoin Cash started from scratch, it just came out by itself. There wasn’t any split or SegWit.
I would say Bitcoin Cash is all good, but you can’t put it in the ring to compete against Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the first, and well trusted by everyone.

I do not know why we cannot try to put bitcoin and bitcoin cash in the same ring, that is exactly what the miners want they want to defeat bitcoin with their altcoin, at the moment this is a no contest bitcoin will win in the first seconds of the first round if this was a boxing match.

Indeed, we can place them in the same ring

In fact, this is what we should do exactly and exactly that has already been done by any major exchange out there (Bittrex, Bitfinex, Poloniex, etc). Since both of these coins are traded, the market is going to decide on their fate. Anyway, neither regular Bitcoin nor Bitcoin Cash are used as sort of "cash", they are just speculation vehicles and therefore will compete (are competing) in this division

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Bitcoin Cash makes the size of so-called "blocks"

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Lol it's still i would choose BITCOIN the mother coin of all of them hehehe. Nitcoin Cash is just a fork of BITCOIN maybe there's a time that Bitcoin Cash would blow but BITCOIN still the best of them hehe

bitcoin already touched the new ATH above $4000 that was so crazy, but what already happened with bitcoin cash? nothing happen at least the more people want to buy the real bitcoin. the price of bitcoin is really promising right now.

If you look at it that way, Bitcoin Cash started from zero.

While Bitcoin has reached $4000, the potential increase in Bitcoin Cash is much more. Bitcoin Cash can double in price easily, and people wouldn't be surprised. If Bitcoin reaches $8000, it would be a great deal.

Yes, that’s true. Bitcoin Cash started from scratch, it just came out by itself. There wasn’t any split or SegWit.
I would say Bitcoin Cash is all good, but you can’t put it in the ring to compete against Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the first, and well trusted by everyone.

I do not know why we cannot try to put bitcoin and bitcoin cash in the same ring, that is exactly what the miners want they want to defeat bitcoin with their altcoin, at the moment this is a no contest bitcoin will win in the first seconds of the first round if this was a boxing match.

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The first time people know is bitcoin, so the presence of bitcoin cash will be considered a bitcoin imitation. I'm sure bitcoin cash will be the same as altcoin and people make top priority is bitcoin.

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Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

14 days after your message, we've seen the result. Bitcoin had an absolute victory over bitcoin cash. At the first day, they pumped bitcoin cash, yet it couldn't keep going in that way.

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I dont see any chance that bitcoin cash could take out the real bitcoin.

maybe in another lifetime or dimension ? Grin

Bitcoin cash is a kid as compared to original Bitcoin. No matter how hard Bitcoin cash works, it can never ever surpass genuine Bitcoin. Many people are already dumping their Bitcoin cash which is ultimately leading to huge decrease in the value of Bitcoin cash. I also don't believe in Bitcoin cash much.

I didn't even mind claiming my btc, first I don't want to transfer my btc and 2nd it will be few since I only have few btc left wgen that August 1 splits happen. Plus knowing that bch will really be nothing n time.

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Quote from: hdclover on August 13, 2017, 09:13:29 AM

I dont see any chance that bitcoin cash could take out the real bitcoin.

maybe in another lifetime or dimension ? Grin

Bitcoin cash is a kid as compared to original Bitcoin. No matter how hard Bitcoin cash works, it can never ever surpass genuine Bitcoin. Many people are already dumping their Bitcoin cash which is ultimately leading to huge decrease in the value of Bitcoin cash. I also don't believe in Bitcoin cash much.

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Bitcoin cash will have a high value with the same fork They targeted beside bitcoin In my opinion they will surpass the bitcoin They want to replace BTC with BCH I think it will be possible because of the great possibilities in this world Their aim to make the miners a glad

Are you kidding me? the fork coin just another shit and never to replace the real one. Bitcoin cash just bunch of the greed. The free airdrop coin must not worth a lot just like bitcoin or even surpass it. You must realize what are you said. bitcoin cahs just nothing right now.

Correct, the miners made wild and bold claims about this new coin but you must learn to tune out those statements, that is why I always think of those as commercials where the owners try to hype their product, the same is true for bitcoin cash, bitcoin cash is not accepted anywhere and I do not think that is going to change.

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Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, that is getting no support at all by no one beside its creators. This is what we can call a big fail. Being an altcoin, I see no reason to compare them...

To those comparing the two, they know what they saw and they also know the basis for such conclusion but for me, I have not even claimed my own BCC with all the paparazzi and I am not sure I will but it seems the popularity of BCH or BCC is just for a while and after the week of August 1, it just seems everyone decides to close the chapter on the controversy but I wish it will succeed so that doubters would at least know they are wrong on this one.

Yes, BitcoinCash is just a new altcoin that was ripped off newly from the main BTC, so you shouldn’t expect it to start competing with BTC since it’s still new in market. This is just its first month, so let’s wait and see how things roll out in coming months. Personally I do not see any big potential with BCH as bitcoin itself is updating itself to scale high volumes. So, BCH may fade out in quicker times.

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Quote from: Dendron on August 14, 2017, 05:23:04 AM

Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, that is getting no support at all by no one beside its creators. This is what we can call a big fail. Being an altcoin, I see no reason to compare them...

To those comparing the two, they know what they saw and they also know the basis for such conclusion but for me, I have not even claimed my own BCC with all the paparazzi and I am not sure I will but it seems the popularity of BCH or BCC is just for a while and after the week of August 1, it just seems everyone decides to close the chapter on the controversy but I wish it will succeed so that doubters would at least know they are wrong on this one.

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Quote from: machinek20 on August 01, 2017, 07:07:31 AM

I am pessimistic that bcc is going become huge, so I think it will just become another alt coin, I dont see enthusiactic people about this coin, infact I saw a lot of people will dump this coin after they received this coin

actually I also not too understand the difference between a bitcoin and bitcoin cash but that I know of so far bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that is in computer networks, in the blockchain and the network is difficult to manipulate while bitcoin cash i.e. miners and developers working together to improve the cryptocurrency in the future, however, all of this raises concerns in terms of security of the bitcoin cash.

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Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, that is getting no support at all by no one beside its creators. This is what we can call a big fail. Being an altcoin, I see no reason to compare them...

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But this is not what you have been saying

Basically, you have been saying that "if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail". Now you say that you would still prefer Coca-Cola even if the competing product were absolutely identical. It may work with Coca-Cola (something subjective) but may not work with something which cab be objectively measured. And this measure in the case of Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash showdown is profitability. Note that I'm not favoring any of them here, I just take a neutral approach and claim that the currency which will be able to bring more profits over longer periods of time will necessarily win since profitability is what the vast majority of people are looking for. And it is not just about regular Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash, it is about any coin out there

I agree, but still I don't think that Bitcoin Cash will be the winner. To me it looks like the situation with high transaction fees is improving day by day. Right now, for example, you have to pay 180 satoshis/byte for a pretty fast, within 30 minutes, transaction. As far as I remember it was 400+ satoshis/byte some time ago. I think changes for good will bring more people to Bitcoin in the future and Bitcoin Cash will be forgotten by many of its today's supporters

I don't think that it will, either

But that's not my point. Transaction fees are mostly irrelevant (as well as time it takes to confirm a transaction). This can be easily explained and proved in practice. First, Bitcoin prices are determined at exchanges, and traders don't move their bitcoins very often, so that they don't care a lot about commissions and times. Further, if the fees really mattered as much as people think they do, we would see a massive exodus from Bitcoin to altcoins, most certainly to Litecoin with its cheap and fast transactions. But as I said, it is profitability which plays the most important role here, i.e. not fees or confirmation times, and thus people stick to Bitcoin and bite the bullet (with high fees and slow confirms)

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Well, if they are people with dozens of billions USD and their aim is to control the whole market, they may try, good luck with that, but I think they will fail. Fortunately lately, I mean 15 years or so, we are living in the world where, thanks to the internet, what is really the best wins. No matter how much money you spend on promotion, if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail.

In fact, I don't particularly disagree with you

At least, not in general. But the case of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash doesn't belong here. Honestly, I don't see any important or crucial difference between the former and the latter. They are basically six of one and half a dozen of the other in virtually any respect which is of significance here. You can substitute one with the other, and nothing is going to change. Therefore, you can't possibly say that one is much better than the other if that was your point

First of, I'm not arguing with you, I pretty much enjoy reading you posts. It's more like I enjoy the conversation.

My point is, if someone invented a drink absolutely identical to Coca-Cola and named it Koka-Drink, I'd prefer to use the original Coca-Cola and I'd be saying that Coca-Cola is much better than Koka-Drink because the former was the revolution in its time and the latter was just a copy, and if we were supporting the things like the latter the progress would stop.

But this is not what you have been saying

Basically, you have been saying that "if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail". Now you say that you would still prefer Coca-Cola even if the competing product were absolutely identical. It may work with Coca-Cola (something subjective) but may not work with something which cab be objectively measured. And this measure in the case of Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash showdown is profitability. Note that I'm not favoring any of them here, I just take a neutral approach and claim that the currency which will be able to bring more profits over longer periods of time will necessarily win since profitability is what the vast majority of people are looking for. And it is not just about regular Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash, it is about any coin out there

I agree, but still I don't think that Bitcoin Cash will be the winner. To me it looks like the situation with high transaction fees is improving day by day. Right now, for example, you have to pay 180 satoshis/byte for a pretty fast, within 30 minutes, transaction. As far as I remember it was 400+ satoshis/byte some time ago. I think changes for good will bring more people to Bitcoin in the future and Bitcoin Cash will be forgotten by many of its today's supporters.

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I dont see any chance that bitcoin cash could take out the real bitcoin.

maybe in another lifetime or dimension ? Grin

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Lol it's still i would choose BITCOIN the mother coin of all of them hehehe. Nitcoin Cash is just a fork of BITCOIN maybe there's a time that Bitcoin Cash would blow but BITCOIN still the best of them hehe

bitcoin already touched the new ATH above $4000 that was so crazy, but what already happened with bitcoin cash? nothing happen at least the more people want to buy the real bitcoin. the price of bitcoin is really promising right now.

If you look at it that way, Bitcoin Cash started from zero.

While Bitcoin has reached $4000, the potential increase in Bitcoin Cash is much more. Bitcoin Cash can double in price easily, and people wouldn't be surprised. If Bitcoin reaches $8000, it would be a great deal.

Yes, that’s true. Bitcoin Cash started from scratch, it just came out by itself. There wasn’t any split or SegWit.
I would say Bitcoin Cash is all good, but you can’t put it in the ring to compete against Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the first, and well trusted by everyone.

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Well, if they are people with dozens of billions USD and their aim is to control the whole market, they may try, good luck with that, but I think they will fail. Fortunately lately, I mean 15 years or so, we are living in the world where, thanks to the internet, what is really the best wins. No matter how much money you spend on promotion, if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail.

In fact, I don't particularly disagree with you

At least, not in general. But the case of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash doesn't belong here. Honestly, I don't see any important or crucial difference between the former and the latter. They are basically six of one and half a dozen of the other in virtually any respect which is of significance here. You can substitute one with the other, and nothing is going to change. Therefore, you can't possibly say that one is much better than the other if that was your point

First of, I'm not arguing with you, I pretty much enjoy reading you posts. It's more like I enjoy the conversation.

My point is, if someone invented a drink absolutely identical to Coca-Cola and named it Koka-Drink, I'd prefer to use the original Coca-Cola and I'd be saying that Coca-Cola is much better than Koka-Drink because the former was the revolution in its time and the latter was just a copy, and if we were supporting the things like the latter the progress would stop.

But this is not what you have been saying

Basically, you have been saying that "if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail". Now you say that you would still prefer Coca-Cola even if the competing product were absolutely identical. It may work with Coca-Cola (something subjective) but may not work with something which cab be objectively measured. And this measure in the case of Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash showdown is profitability. Note that I'm not favoring any of them here, I just take a neutral approach and claim that the currency which will be able to bring more profits over longer periods of time will necessarily win since profitability is what the vast majority of people are looking for. And it is not just about regular Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash, it is about any coin out there

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Things are more intricate than that

They don't have to support Bitcoin Cash indefinitely since people will run out of their BCH tokens sooner or later even if all of them choose to get rid of these tokens. Obviously, quite a few BCH holders aren't going to sell these coins, and some may even be looking to buy more. Anyway, after this initial stage of rampant sell-offs and buy-ups is over, their hands will be untied, and they can proceed to the next level of dethroning Bitcoin (as they likely think). You also seem to discard the possibility that the cartel might be selling regular bitcoins for BCH to prop up the price of the latter

I may be wrong but I see it like this. If you are selling something you have to make the price competitive. In other words the price should be lower than in other places, otherwise people will be buying in those places and not from you. In our case if we are selling Bitcoins for Bitcoin Cash we should make people pay less Bitcoin Cash for BTC than in other places to attract buyers. Yes, such act would prop up the price of BCH, but at what cost. We'll be losing money. In fact selling Bitcoins for lower amount of Bitcoin Cash is the same thing as buying Bitcoin Cash for higher amount of Bitcoins

This is certainly not the only possibility

You can sell original bitcoins for dollars and get market rates. And then use dollars to bid up the price slowly. But this is ultimately irrelevant since you may be selling for a loss today to earn decent profits tomorrow. In fact, when you buy some asset you hope that it will rise in the future even if its price continues to decline after you make a purchase. But this is obviously not all. The cartel may not be looking for short term profits (like in "buy low sell high"). They are ultimately looking for control, and they don't care about how much it could cost them in dollar or Bitcoin terms since if they control Bitcoin (under whatever name), they control the whole market (after all, they could break even entirely via mining fees in the end)

Well, if they are people with dozens of billions USD and their aim is to control the whole market, they may try, good luck with that, but I think they will fail. Fortunately lately, I mean 15 years or so, we are living in the world where, thanks to the internet, what is really the best wins. No matter how much money you spend on promotion, if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail.

In fact, I don't particularly disagree with you

At least, not in general. But the case of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash doesn't belong here. Honestly, I don't see any important or crucial difference between the former and the latter. They are basically six of one and half a dozen of the other in virtually any respect which is of significance here. You can substitute one with the other, and nothing is going to change. Therefore, you can't possibly say that one is much better than the other if that was your point

First of, I'm not arguing with you, I pretty much enjoy reading you posts. It's more like I enjoy the conversation.

My point is, if someone invented a drink absolutely identical to Coca-Cola and named it Koka-Drink, I'd prefer to use the original Coca-Cola and I'd be saying that Coca-Cola is much better than Koka-Drink because the former was the revolution in its time and the latter was just a copy, and if we were supporting the things like the latter the progress would stop.

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Why we need to compare those two cryptocurrency when they are almost the same? They don't have difference because it is like bitcoin is having a clone and the only thing that you will observe for bitcoin cash is the price of it compare to bitcoin which bitcoin is really high right now and taking new all time highs while bitcoin cash is now less hype and only a few people are sitting there.

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