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August 19, 2017, 02:39:25 AM
What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


Bitcoin cash is going strong these days if it continues to grow the same way like the recent days then will easily be equals with bitcoin.
If I were in invest between Bitcoin and bitcoin cash, I will definitely go for bitcoin cash because it has huge potential.

Well bitcoin cash is suitable for investment. But we must also think again. From the beginning appeared bitcoin cash reached the price of 0.4 Bitcoin. This might just happen again. Now the price is still normal at 0.08 / Bitcoin
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August 19, 2017, 02:29:45 AM
BCC is just one of the other altcoin that the price will not be higher than bitcoin, but BCH can be an option for beginners who want to try trading with small capital because the price is more affordable than bitcoin

Yes it is just another alt coin but it's value is getting a good reflection in the market.

No one knows the future of this coin and it's up to the whales if they will still supporting this coin.

But bitcoin will be the best of all.
Bitcoin cash is a good altcoin to ride with our bitcoin and we should really get some of that bitcoin cash coin so we cannot miss any opportunity in that coin. Maybe it is just a hard forked coin but it has also a potential that it can excel like bitcoin in the market and beat other altcoin that are on the top right now.

I've been reading a lot of forecasts and speculations about bitcoin cash.

And base on those people's comment it looks like bitcoin cash now has a good review from the traders.

It's like a savior to transfer their funds when the market is on the red days.
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August 18, 2017, 07:27:34 PM
What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


Bitcoin cash is going strong these days if it continues to grow the same way like the recent days then will easily be equals with bitcoin.
If I were in invest between Bitcoin and bitcoin cash, I will definitely go for bitcoin cash because it has huge potential.
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August 18, 2017, 03:43:51 PM
What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


I personally think that it is still too early to say that bitcoin cash is anywhere near bitcoin or is comparable to bitcoins. Because first of all, bitcoin cash is still too young and still is so shady woth all these sudden increase in value that could be just a result of big whales pumping and planning to dump when they see enough profit. And mostly is that it still has a lot of trials comming on its way. And that is what i am sure of. But still, i'll be keeping an eye on this coin, because i see some potential, and if i see enough potential that is worth grabbing, i will do.
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August 18, 2017, 02:51:39 PM
Yes, already sold my bitcoin cash soon as I possibly could. However much those chinese keep trying to pump bch, it doesn't matter to me. This is all just a huge agenda so they can keep their precious ASIC boost miners.

For me, a new coin (BCC) is very incomprehensible and unpredictable. I prefer to use the traditional bitcoin, because I trust him.
Now the price of a new coin has grown significantly, but it's just a hoax, soon it will fall and many people will suffer
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August 18, 2017, 02:06:53 PM
Yes, already sold my bitcoin cash soon as I possibly could. However much those chinese keep trying to pump bch, it doesn't matter to me. This is all just a huge agenda so they can keep their precious ASIC boost miners.
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August 18, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
But this is not what you have been saying

Basically, you have been saying that "if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail". Now you say that you would still prefer Coca-Cola even if the competing product were absolutely identical. It may work with Coca-Cola (something subjective) but may not work with something which cab be objectively measured. And this measure in the case of Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash showdown is profitability. Note that I'm not favoring any of them here, I just take a neutral approach and claim that the currency which will be able to bring more profits over longer periods of time will necessarily win since profitability is what the vast majority of people are looking for. And it is not just about regular Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash, it is about any coin out there

I agree, but still I don't think that Bitcoin Cash will be the winner. To me it looks like the situation with high transaction fees is improving day by day. Right now, for example, you have to pay 180 satoshis/byte for a pretty fast, within 30 minutes, transaction. As far as I remember it was 400+ satoshis/byte some time ago. I think changes for good will bring more people to Bitcoin in the future and Bitcoin Cash will be forgotten by many of its today's supporters

I don't think that it will, either

But that's not my point. Transaction fees are mostly irrelevant (as well as time it takes to confirm a transaction). This can be easily explained and proved in practice. First, Bitcoin prices are determined at exchanges, and traders don't move their bitcoins very often, so that they don't care a lot about commissions and times. Further, if the fees really mattered as much as people think they do, we would see a massive exodus from Bitcoin to altcoins, most certainly to Litecoin with its cheap and fast transactions. But as I said, it is profitability which plays the most important role here, i.e. not fees or confirmation times, and thus people stick to Bitcoin and bite the bullet (with high fees and slow confirms)
Well the bitcoincash is far beyond it is  not in a position nor do I see that it can ever defeat the bitcoin. When I think of the different aspects of the Bitcoin Cash it seems nothing else to me than a one standing in the range of Alts, which is true as well. The bitcoin cash maybe a good alt with a high price as compare to the others but still it would be considered an alt and it will be dominated by Bitcoin with all aspects

I have to question this attitude

While technically Bitcoin is an altcoin (there is no doubt about that), people are still thinking of it and looking at it as Bitcoin's main competitor (let's remain honest here), and that's what really matters. We can easily see that in prices. Whenever the regular Bitcoin surges, Bitcoin Cash plunges and visa versa. Further, I'm inclined to think this showdown is likely set to get more intense (kinda more interesting), i.e. Bitcoin Cash is not going to be yet another altcoin following Bitcoin's lead as is what most altcoins do anyway
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August 18, 2017, 01:22:39 PM
But this is not what you have been saying

Basically, you have been saying that "if there's something which is better in the same field with the product you promote, you will fail". Now you say that you would still prefer Coca-Cola even if the competing product were absolutely identical. It may work with Coca-Cola (something subjective) but may not work with something which cab be objectively measured. And this measure in the case of Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash showdown is profitability. Note that I'm not favoring any of them here, I just take a neutral approach and claim that the currency which will be able to bring more profits over longer periods of time will necessarily win since profitability is what the vast majority of people are looking for. And it is not just about regular Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash, it is about any coin out there

I agree, but still I don't think that Bitcoin Cash will be the winner. To me it looks like the situation with high transaction fees is improving day by day. Right now, for example, you have to pay 180 satoshis/byte for a pretty fast, within 30 minutes, transaction. As far as I remember it was 400+ satoshis/byte some time ago. I think changes for good will bring more people to Bitcoin in the future and Bitcoin Cash will be forgotten by many of its today's supporters

I don't think that it will, either

But that's not my point. Transaction fees are mostly irrelevant (as well as time it takes to confirm a transaction). This can be easily explained and proved in practice. First, Bitcoin prices are determined at exchanges, and traders don't move their bitcoins very often, so that they don't care a lot about commissions and times. Further, if the fees really mattered as much as people think they do, we would see a massive exodus from Bitcoin to altocoins, most certainly to Litecoin with its cheap and fast transactions. But as I said, it is profitability which plays the most important role here, i.e. not fees or confirmation times, and thus people stick to Bitcoin and the bullet (with high fees and slow confirms)
Well the bitcoincash is far beyond it is  not in a position nor do I see that it can ever defeat the bitcoin. When I think of the different aspects of the Bitcoin Cash it seems nothing else to me than a one standing in the range of Alts, which is true as well.

The bitcoin cash maybe a good alt with a high price as compare to the others but still it would be considered an alt and it will be dominated by Bitcoin with all aspects.
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August 18, 2017, 11:51:21 AM
What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


I think it's very speculative. Think this way, the Bitcoin Cash was distributed 1:1 with Bitcoin. So like Bitcoin, the majority of them they are owned by a few individuals. What would you do if you were one of them? You clearly don't want it to challenge Bitcoin, which is your main interest, meanwhile you don't want the price to crush. So the best strategy: slowly cashing in. 
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August 18, 2017, 10:37:06 AM
BCC is just one of the other altcoin that the price will not be higher than bitcoin, but BCH can be an option for beginners who want to try trading with small capital because the price is more affordable than bitcoin

Yes it is just another alt coin but it's value is getting a good reflection in the market.

No one knows the future of this coin and it's up to the whales if they will still supporting this coin.

But bitcoin will be the best of all.
Bitcoin cash is a good altcoin to ride with our bitcoin and we should really get some of that bitcoin cash coin so we cannot miss any opportunity in that coin. Maybe it is just a hard forked coin but it has also a potential that it can excel like bitcoin in the market and beat other altcoin that are on the top right now.
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August 18, 2017, 09:10:01 AM
What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

For me it is possible for the bitcoin cash to have the same value as the bitcoins did but for now it is a big no. It is impossible for them to surpass or even have the same value as bitcoin with yhese short period of time. They are just getting started in the business, they cannot surpass the bitcoin that fast, they just have a little number of users or holder compared to bitcoins that have all around the world. Bitcoins are still the best and no one can surpass them in this era.

1 era = 100 years, just wanted to accentuate this.
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August 18, 2017, 09:06:26 AM
What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

For me it is possible for the bitcoin cash to have the same value as the bitcoins did but for now it is a big no. It is impossible for them to surpass or even have the same value as bitcoin with yhese short period of time. They are just getting started in the business, they cannot surpass the bitcoin that fast, they just have a little number of users or holder compared to bitcoins that have all around the world. Bitcoins are still the best and no one can surpass them in this era.
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August 18, 2017, 08:48:59 AM
Okay, I've gone through all 17 pages, few good thoughts, most are not correct, sorry to say this.

BCH is more profitable to mine, 13+ hours already, follow the hashing power, 10% switch and The Bitcoin we use know will froze, we will use BCH instead.

BTC will always remain valuable, but the transaction time will be huge, months for every transaction.

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August 18, 2017, 08:39:05 AM
BCC is just one of the other altcoin that the price will not be higher than bitcoin, but BCH can be an option for beginners who want to try trading with small capital because the price is more affordable than bitcoin

Yes it is just another alt coin but it's value is getting a good reflection in the market.

No one knows the future of this coin and it's up to the whales if they will still supporting this coin.

But bitcoin will be the best of all.
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August 18, 2017, 08:36:44 AM
BCC is just one of the other altcoin that the price will not be higher than bitcoin, but BCH can be an option for beginners who want to try trading with small capital because the price is more affordable than bitcoin
even it's more affordable for now, how about its future? We don't know if it will still have its value since many were not into using it yet, will know soon if it can have ability to pump like btc when opportunity comes to bcc that whales trust it.
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August 18, 2017, 08:27:14 AM
BCC is just one of the other altcoin that the price will not be higher than bitcoin, but BCH can be an option for beginners who want to try trading with small capital because the price is more affordable than bitcoin
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August 18, 2017, 03:25:51 AM
As others have said the network is different

I don't really know whether it is true or not, but if I'm not mistaken, it was the exchanges' condition and requirement that the wannabe Bitcoin should solve the replay issue if its creators wanted it to be listed there. So I guess they should have made the network incompatible to avoid the possibility of replay attacks (since we see BCH tokens listed at most if not all major exchanges by now). But ultimately this is irrelevant since your assumption falls apart at another level. You essentially say that there is nothing that would prevent both merchants and consumers from accepting Bitcoin Cash if the regular Bitcoin is stuck or fails. Even if technically it were so (which it is not), I still couldn't agree with this view. If we are to face the facts, many exchanges (if not all again) suspended even genuine Bitcoin deposits and withdrawals for some time to avoid possible repercussions from the introduction of Bitcoin Cash (until the dust settled). In this way, I can't possibly see how all these people you mentioned could be willing to accept Bitcoin Cash. That would likely wreak total havoc in their accounting unless they are going to accept it as just another payment currency. But then it would be no different from accepting, say, Litecoin, or any other altcoin. Thus your assumption is untenable and not plausible conceptually, not just technically

First, thank you for the more cordial tone. Your posts are much more interesting to read when they're just presenting your ideas and not attacking

My tone didn't change, it is more like you stopped posting outright trash

Can you explain what you mean about relay attacks and exchanges? Not sure I'm following that part.

What is "technically" not possible about accepting BCH payments in addition or as opposed to BTC? I don't understand this logic. Let's say I'm a merchant. I accept BTC for goods/services. In order to do so, I need only to have a BTC address. If I wanted to take BCH, all I would need is a BCH address. How is there a technical barrier there? Accordingly, there is no barrier stopping merchants from taking any other alt as payment either on a technical level. So the second pin of my premise is that just like every other alt is failing to win over against Bitcoin, there's no reason to think they would win over against BCH either. If BTC goes down, something is likely to become the dominant replacement, and if the BTC demise is attributable directly to capacity issues, it makes more sense to me that the closest alt to BTC and solves for its weakness takes its place. I believe that would more likely be BCH at this point than anything else.

Obviously, you meant replay (not relay) attacks

If you don't know what are these, in short, they allow making a transaction on the first blockchain and doubling it on the second blockchain. This is the thing which Coinbase encountered after the Ethereum split. So someone sent coins on the Ethereum Classic chain, and the transaction got mirrored (replayed) on the other chain. To make this kind of attack vector impossible, the networks should be made different to specifically address this issue. This means, apart from other things, that while BCC and BCH addresses are technically the same, the merchants would still have to use different wallets for these coins (I refer to software, not wallets as addresses). In other words, you can't receive BCH tokens in whatever regular Bitcoin wallet you happen to use (unless you successfully run a replay attack and receive BCC coins via a BCH initiated transaction)
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August 18, 2017, 01:59:50 AM
As for you answering my question: what's preventing you from switching to BCH, you responded then network and demand. That's partially my point. If the BTC network once again proves unable to scale and handle the capacity crunch, then you don't have even that, and if inertia is the only thing keeping BTC the larger ecosystem, I think you'll see parity or eventually BCH emerge as the winner if BTC can't get its act together.

Eventually, that could be the case. But Segwit is almost two years in the making, and it's finally coming to fruition. That means an immediate capacity increase and a fix for transaction malleability that will more easily enable the Lightning Network. It will also allow for further scaling optimizations like Schnorr signatures.

So there's no point in talking about inability to scale yet. The scaling debate is being addressed head on. It's only fair that skeptics give the solutions provided by Core (and activated by the ecosystem) a year or two before they pass judgment.
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August 18, 2017, 12:50:44 AM
no one knows ,so i will holding both in case . both will win in the end
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August 17, 2017, 11:01:57 PM
Wow, BCH is reaching $520 at the moment, and it seems it ain't stopping. Cheesy
I bought some at price $390. I think this will be good investment. Smiley
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