Topic: Bitcoin vs. War: Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars? - page 5. (Read 15747 times)
Why and how could bitcoin reduce or even stop war? I am sure that if bitcoin was able to stop or prevent war they would have at least tried it by now. There is so much unrest in the world right now and I don't believe for a second that a virtual currency will solve all the issues involving the unrest. As they say money can never solve problems.
Can you please elaborate how wars are being funded by inflation?
Historically, an early example is the Peloponnesian War between the greeks and spartans from 431 to 404 BC where the greeks stared debasing their currency to fund the war by mixing in copper in the gold and silver causing massive inflation.
A recent example is the Iraq war which costs the US over 1.1trillion dollars but the true costs are much , much higher as there are hidden opportunity lost costs and amortized pension and health costs. A small portion of the price of war is raised with war bonds but most nation states simple fund wars by printing more currency which has longterm economic effects which reflect in inflation and recessions in years to come.
Blowing things up instead of investing in education, building infrastructure, and focusing on job growth isn't exactly good for an economy.
Out of all the causes of war, I highly doubt money and bitcoin are the cause/solution to most of them.
Could wars be funded in a country that mainly used Bitcoin? Can you name me some examples of wars that aren't primarily funded by inflation?
While I agree with some of your statements the true test to determine what someone really believes is if they are willing to invest their money to support it.
One thing that is consistent throughout human society is hypocrisy. People say they believe and support all sorts of causes but will they sacrifice their own wealth
directly to drop bombs on villages? I think its a very safe bet that wars will still exist but will be much smaller, shorter, and rarer if people had to directly fund them.
Out of all the causes of war, I highly doubt money and bitcoin are the cause/solution to most of them.
Could wars be funded in a country that mainly used Bitcoin? Can you name me some examples of wars that aren't primarily funded by inflation?
While I agree with some of your statements the true test to determine what someone really believes is if they are willing to invest their money to support it.
One thing that is consistent throughout human society is hypocrisy. People say they believe and support all sorts of causes but will they sacrifice their own wealth
directly to drop bombs on villages? I think its a very safe bet that wars will still exist but will be much smaller, shorter, and rarer if people had to directly fund them.
I think the war has been started since time immemorial that has been centuries in any case it.
but can say yes since bitcoin come increasingly crowded battle lol: D
but can say yes since bitcoin come increasingly crowded battle lol: D
Out of all the causes of war, I highly doubt money and bitcoin are the cause/solution to most of them.
The main causes of war seem to be
Religion
Resources
Corruption
Oppression
The main causes of war seem to be
Religion
Resources
Corruption
Oppression
If anything Bitcoin may increase wars if countries are desperate to acquire hashing share, like they will do anything to acquire gold now
Wars are mainly started these days for geopolitcal control, enforcing treaties and tax obligations, propping up demand for fiat, and for leveraging whole industries and sectors.
While one resource, oil, was partly responsible for the Iraq invasion it was only a small component amongst many. Wars are very expensive to maintain and the payoffs have to be higher than attaining one commodity as you suggest. What you are suggesting is not war but a bank heist where a team of thieves covertly steal gold or ASICS and than leave. It would be irrational to invade and occupy a country for hashing power when the same money could be used to simply build or buy the machines for much cheaper social, political, and monetary prices.
If anything Bitcoin may increase wars if countries are desperate to acquire hashing share, like they will do anything to acquire gold now
No it does not. Being violent, greed and the lust for power to rule over others is embeeded in our genes. Leaders will always find a way to start a war. Bitcoin can be even a cause of war in the future. Anything that has value can cause a war and bitcoin is one of them.
How are wars typically funded though?
Collective Greed and Selfishness is what can prevent (many) wars. Lets take a recent page from history as an example: Iraq. Do you really believe that most people who supported Bush's actions would be willing to voluntarily donate to liberate the people of Iraq or as a pre-emptive strike because of WMD? How easy would it be to raise sales tax, property tax, and VAT to pay for a war?
There are good reasons why wars are typically funded by inflation through fiat and never officially declared anymore: most people put their own selfish interests before a sense of nationalism unless they are tricked into believing that they aren't actually paying for the wars.
There really aren't wars anymore. There are genocides, police actions, skirmishes, insurrections, bombardments, blockades, sanctions, occupations, terrorism acts, and central banks.
Nothing will change. Why will bitcoin reduce war?
Wars are fought at behest of banks.
Nothing will change. Why will bitcoin reduce war?
not interesting that is a very serious issue
It's never going to happen. Humans, by nature, fight for stuff they want regardless of whether they deserve it or not. It's just going to stay like that. "War never changes."
Why do everyone want to use Bitcoin as a remedy for everything? People make war, not bitcoin. Fiat control elimination, will only stop one of the reasons, why people make war with each other.
Bitcoin will solve one thing, and that is the decentralized control of people money, but governments will still control the way it is used. {Regulation & Laws}
So solve the other 1000's of reasons why people make war, and the world would be a better place for all.
Bitcoin will solve one thing, and that is the decentralized control of people money, but governments will still control the way it is used. {Regulation & Laws}
So solve the other 1000's of reasons why people make war, and the world would be a better place for all.
“The coming of the wireless era will make war impossible. There will be no wars anymore.”(Guglielmo Marconi, 1912)
As long as any form of money exist there will always be wars.
If we get rid of money printing presses, then kings or parliaments that want to commit these atrocities must ask their subjects to donate their savings to do so. A nation willing to commit atrocities wholeheartedly is easier to deal with by the world courts. Maybe there are alternatives to bloodshed.
Too many nations have become lazy. They enter wars with no sacrifice. The leader declares a vendetta and borrows the money from future generations. This is irresponsible behavior and these countries do not deserve what Bitcoin can provide. The nations of the future that adopt Bitcoin will be immune from tyranny because their assets will be beyond the reach of mere politicians.
Only leaders able to gain the support of their constituents will be able to aggregate capital for the will of the people. These future nations will be successful and worthy of their status and power. However long it takes, one day Bitcoin or its offspring will foster maturity and stewardship to nations and the world.
Only leaders able to gain the support of their constituents will be able to aggregate capital for the will of the people. These future nations will be successful and worthy of their status and power. However long it takes, one day Bitcoin or its offspring will foster maturity and stewardship to nations and the world.
I missed these discussions.
No it does not. Being violent, greed and the lust for power to rule over others is embeeded in our genes. Leaders will always find a way to start a war. Bitcoin can be even a cause of war in the future. Anything that has value can cause a war and bitcoin is one of them.
Funny how I criticized this Molyneux guy few months ago and everyone was offended. Now skepticism towards this bitcoin stops war theory? LOL 
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