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Topic: Bitcoin vs. War: Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars? - page 6. (Read 15747 times)

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Satoshi is Captain Kirk in "A Taste of Armageddon."

We need to sacrifice, conserve, ration, and hear about the wars on a daily basis. That is the price we must pay to wage war. It doesn't taste as good as a cafe mochachino at the mall food court bought with money borrowed from our great grandchildren.
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Most people don't understand the economics of war, so instead they assume large hordes of people just start slaughtering each other for any reason and for free.

But the truth is that war is far less sustainable under honest money. This "problem" dates all the way back to the ancient Greeks, who could only keep the wars going as long as they debased their gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdSq5H7awi8

You can't mix copper with a bitcoin. If the future runs on crypto, warmongering statists are going to have a much tougher time duping their would-be pawns into fighting each other.
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War has been going on for centuries on end.  Whether it be through religion, politics, gold, oil, slavery, etc...

Bitcoin, a fledgling cryptocurrency in it's 5 year of existence...no way in hell!

Yes, its idealistic. Yes, war will probably persist to a certain degree for a long time in the future.... but its this idealism and moral standard we have to pursue to get 90-98% to our goal. The persistence and idealism of the abolitionists when they only constituted 2% of the US population is the reason why slavery is almost completely eliminated.(and slavery had existed in almost every culture and time period before then.)
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i prefer this version (with many subtitles) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joITmEr4SjY
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No, nothing will end war ever.

Not with that kind of thinking...

I know it is discouraging to know we have been fighting for so long over so little, because of this trend it may seem like it's just the natural way for men but that really isn't the case. There have been several civilizations who were peaceful enough to sort out their differences without anyone getting hurt; we've had war, but we have also had peace.

Will Bitcoin end war? Bitcoin on its own can never end war, but we can.

"Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment" ~Nikola Tesla
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bitcoin is not physical to slap someone across the face, to pull a trigger, to place handcuffs on someone, or atleast tell someone to stop.

so even if bitcoin sorts out money. people will still fight over land, food, many other things. so although bitcoin is good, it cannot solve everything.

in short
you cant wedge a bitcoin down the barrel of a tank to prevent it firing

Some historians suggest that nuclear armament has been beneficial in dissuading large wars from occurring at least between the nation states who are armed because the costs to fund them and consequences make it suicide for everyone involved. so nuclear armed countries mainly only indirectly fund small battles by proxy or conduct economic war against each other instead.

Just like with the invention of nukes, bitcoin could make the political and practical costs of raising money for large wars difficult.
The thought experiment is if Bitcoin becomes much more pervasive than nation states will have to raise funding for war directly through property tax, sales tax , and VAT rather than indirectly though War bonds and inflation. Few people would be willing to directly pay for these wars and may revolt when they see that they are paying 50 cents more for a loaf of bread in order to bring freedom to another country by dropping bombs on children.

legendary
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bitcoin is not physical to slap someone across the face, to pull a trigger, to place handcuffs on someone, or atleast tell someone to stop.

so even if bitcoin sorts out money. people will still fight over land, food, many other things. so although bitcoin is good, it cannot solve everything.

in short
you cant wedge a bitcoin down the barrel of a tank to prevent it firing
sr. member
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Never.   For those at the top, life is life a game of Monopoly where they are trying to control as much as possible.  War is very profitable for a lot of companies as well...

The elimination of organized religion would have a better shot at eliminating war than BTC.
Nothing will ever have a shot at eliminating war, it reminds me of a southpark episode where the future is at war over the correct naming of the Athiest foundation. Humans are greedy, jealous and proud and will never stop fighting each other no matter what.
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War has been going on for centuries on end.  Whether it be through religion, politics, gold, oil, slavery, etc...

Bitcoin, a fledgling cryptocurrency in it's 5 year of existence...no way in hell!
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No, nothing will end war ever.

The thought experiment is talking about reducing war or preventing war in many cases (Not ending ALL war). Watch the video, it is very interesting.

It is akin to the fact that while outright slavery is largely illegal and universally viewed as morally reprehensible, yet it still occurs in certain parts of Africa for chocolate or diamonds. Wars might become rare and difficult to fund with less Fiat control.

sr. member
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No, nothing will end war ever.
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
Never.   For those at the top, life is life a game of Monopoly where they are trying to control as much as possible.  War is very profitable for a lot of companies as well...

The elimination of organized religion would have a better shot at eliminating war than BTC.
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Interesting thought experiment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDk62HApDa8

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