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Topic: Bitcoin will plummet to $10 by first half of 2014 - page 5. (Read 50126 times)

hero member
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imho the recent drop in btc price can be attributed largely to the following:
4.) Fat bag holders that received their coins illegitmately that are trying to get what they can just in case btc's day in the sun is over.
5.) Most merchants that are starting to accept bitcoin you have to understand are basically doing so with the intention of converting it instantly to fiat.  Everytime this happens bitcoin price is going to take a hit.  Particularly if the Buy order depth on whatever exchange or processor the person is cashing out on is weak.
6.) Overall image of bitcoin suffering pretty bad, at least the majority of the opinions i've been hearing are largely negative.  And primarily based in ignorance.
Agreed.  But you cannot assume that the bad image of bitcoin is due to "ignorance".  To believe in its ultimate success one must believe in several premises, that, in most people's exerience, are quite unlikely...

But one cannot hope to understand why the price is falling now without knowing why it went up from 450$ to 650$ on May/20--Jun/10.  So far, this crash is merely undoing that rally.  However, when th eprice goes up everybody says "I don't care why", or "that's bitcoin", or give some TA non-explanation, or engage in wishful thinking that it surely is "the next bubble".

The last bubble was due to the opening of the Chinese market, and most everything that has happened to the price since then is clearly due to events and rumors that are relevant to China.  There will not be another bubble without the opening of anotherm even bigger market; where is it?

There is no obvious explanation however fror the May/20-Jun/10 rally.  That does not mean that there was not an external cause, only that we do not know about it.  From the way price moved, it looks like a few Chinese traders went on buying sprees, one at  a time, mostly in that 20-day period but also in the next 2 months.  My guess is that they got inside information of some future positive development, that prompted them to buy.  But now that expectation has somehow deflated, so they are dumping what they bought. 

Perhaps they expected the international versions of Huobi (BitVC) and OKCoin (OKCoin.com) to start a new bubble (rather disappointing so far).  Perhaps they were XRP owners who heard of Jed McCaleb's plans to sell his billion XRP, expected XRP to crash, and rushed to exchange theirXRP for BTC; only to undo the switch now that Jed struck a deal with Ripple.  Or, conversely, perhaps they were people who wanted to buy Jed's XRP, and stocked up on BTC for that.  os osmething else.
legendary
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Well hello there!
I understand why Gold and Silver aren't doing shit because they're being held down with paper contracts..

But BitCoin going down and it being pretty much pegged to the US Dollar.. Does it go down because the Dollar went up in value???

I figure if the dollar crashes, then BitCoin will skyrocket because it will take many more Dollars to buy a BitCoin right??

I see you have more and more retailers accepting Bitcoin, so why is it diving?? Central Bankers dumping their stashes of BTC??


imho the recent drop in btc price can be attributed largely to the following:
1.) Pending bitlicense regulation
2.) Margin trading on Bitfinex
3.) Massive # of automated trading bot's selling off in a frenzy as a result of pre-programmed settings.
4.) Fat bag holders that received their coins illegitmately that are trying to get what they can just in case btc's day in the sun is over.
5.) Most merchants that are starting to accept bitcoin you have to understand are basically doing so with the intention of converting it instantly to fiat.  Everytime this happens bitcoin price is going to take a hit.  Particularly if the Buy order depth on whatever exchange or processor the person is cashing out on is weak.
6.) Overall image of bitcoin suffering pretty bad, at least the majority of the opinions i've been hearing are largely negative.  And primarily based in ignorance.  I try to correct what I can when I can but it's hard to argue with the types of headlines that are making the big news right now. 
legendary
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Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.

On sale once again...

damn...I'm beginning to hate being fiat-broke Smiley ...
$515 as of right now. Let's hope it gets back up there soon!

And as a fellow fiat-pauper, I feel ya.
I wonder what is happening with the price...

I understand how both of you are feeling, however. I too and quite low on my fiat holdings. A same I can't pick some more up while they're on sale...
I think it is likely having to do with the over leverage at bitfinex. Hopefully these leveraged positions will get liquidated and people will eventually start to buy again once the price falls more.
member
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I understand why Gold and Silver aren't doing shit because they're being held down with paper contracts..

But BitCoin going down and it being pretty much pegged to the US Dollar.. Does it go down because the Dollar went up in value???

I figure if the dollar crashes, then BitCoin will skyrocket because it will take many more Dollars to buy a BitCoin right??

I see you have more and more retailers accepting Bitcoin, so why is it diving?? Central Bankers dumping their stashes of BTC??

hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 526
Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.

On sale once again...

damn...I'm beginning to hate being fiat-broke Smiley ...
$515 as of right now. Let's hope it gets back up there soon!

Now the end begins, and the prophecy comes true (the words should be read as "Bitcoin will plummet to $10 by the end of 2014")... Smiley
legendary
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Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.

On sale once again...

damn...I'm beginning to hate being fiat-broke Smiley ...
$515 as of right now. Let's hope it gets back up there soon!

And as a fellow fiat-pauper, I feel ya.
I wonder what is happening with the price...

I understand how both of you are feeling, however. I too and quite low on my fiat holdings. A same I can't pick some more up while they're on sale...

Thanks to you both, and back at ya with the sympathy. Smiley

legendary
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Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.

On sale once again...

damn...I'm beginning to hate being fiat-broke Smiley ...
$515 as of right now. Let's hope it gets back up there soon!

And as a fellow fiat-pauper, I feel ya.
I wonder what is happening with the price...

I understand how both of you are feeling, however. I too and quite low on my fiat holdings. A same I can't pick some more up while they're on sale...
sr. member
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'Slow and steady wins the race'
Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.

On sale once again...

damn...I'm beginning to hate being fiat-broke Smiley ...
$515 as of right now. Let's hope it gets back up there soon!

And as a fellow fiat-pauper, I feel ya.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.

On sale once again...

damn...I'm beginning to hate being fiat-broke Smiley ...
hero member
Activity: 910
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Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.
You must have blinked.  Look again at the chart, it is 498$ now.
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
Ahem. It's August. Bitcoin is at $584.

Umm...

also, if it did plummet, I'd invest my thousands of dollars I'm holding onto

newbie
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This learns us that bitcoin rules and will never go down (at least not for another hundred years is my guess)
hero member
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Well buffet is not a technologist so its not really his fault
(Said it on multiple occasions)
Besides he has his train business and other industries that he built his fortune from so for him Bitcoin is just something that he doesn't need to bother with he already has all the money he needs Smiley
So while he is dated that old dog made his fortune long ago.

But what if he decides to live forever, and Bitcoin takes up after all? Smiley

In that case I would commend the good fellow for discovering immortality
Somehow he was able to become a full cyborg and keep his brain functioning longer than his body
(Also if he went full cyborg)
I think his opinion towards technology based companies would have done a full 180 and he would embrace bitcoin with a fervor.

Actually it has. According to Reuters, in November 2011 it became known that during the previous eight months, Buffett had bought 64 million shares of IBM stock.

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The Berkshire Hathaway chief executive said he has bought nearly $11 billion of International Business Machines Corp stock in the last eight months, building a roughly 5.5 percent stake that potentially makes him the largest shareholder in the company

Does it imply that he has discovered something (or paid for it)? Cheesy
legendary
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Well buffet is not a technologist so its not really his fault
(Said it on multiple occasions)
Besides he has his train business and other industries that he built his fortune from so for him Bitcoin is just something that he doesn't need to bother with he already has all the money he needs Smiley
So while he is dated that old dog made his fortune long ago.

But what if he decides to live forever, and Bitcoin takes up after all? Smiley

In that case I would commend the good fellow for discovering immortality
Somehow he was able to become a full cyborg and keep his brain functioning longer than his body
(Also if he went full cyborg)
I think his opinion towards technology based companies would have done a full 180 and he would embrace bitcoin with a fervor.
legendary
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It's about time -- All merrit accepted !!!
if it ever happens , which it did not i will be buying
hero member
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Has Buffett invested in Bitcoin? Just curious. Smiley

No, and he advised against it.  He doesn't invest in tech and/or commodities IIRC.

Oh, that explains why he's a name that pushes some hot buttons around here.

Myself, I don't see why. I know he's outspoken and at time abrasive, but with respect to plain investment, he's an old dog who will not learn new tricks. As for him taking BRK to a whole 'nother level of what could be politely called "insider capitalism," that trick was an old one in the time of Henry Clay.

Well buffet is not a technologist so its not really his fault
(Said it on multiple occasions)
Besides he has his train business and other industries that he built his fortune from so for him Bitcoin is just something that he doesn't need to bother with he already has all the money he needs Smiley
So while he is dated that old dog made his fortune long ago.

But what if he decides to live forever, and Bitcoin takes up after all? Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1115
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Has Buffett invested in Bitcoin? Just curious. Smiley

No, and he advised against it.  He doesn't invest in tech and/or commodities IIRC.

Oh, that explains why he's a name that pushes some hot buttons around here.

Myself, I don't see why. I know he's outspoken and at time abrasive, but with respect to plain investment, he's an old dog who will not learn new tricks. As for him taking BRK to a whole 'nother level of what could be politely called "insider capitalism," that trick was an old one in the time of Henry Clay.

Well buffet is not a technologist so its not really his fault
(Said it on multiple occasions)
Besides he has his train business and other industries that he built his fortune from so for him Bitcoin is just something that he doesn't need to bother with he already has all the money he needs Smiley
So while he is dated that old dog made his fortune long ago.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Has Buffett invested in Bitcoin? Just curious. Smiley

No, and he advised against it.  He doesn't invest in tech and/or commodities IIRC.

Oh, that explains why he's a name that pushes some hot buttons around here.

Myself, I don't see why. I know he's outspoken and at time abrasive, but with respect to plain investment, he's an old dog who will not learn new tricks. As for him taking BRK to a whole 'nother level of what could be politely called "insider capitalism," that trick was an old one in the time of Henry Clay.
legendary
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Has Buffett invested in Bitcoin? Just curious. Smiley

He called it a 'mirage'. Can't use stronger words than that. Grin

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101494937
legendary
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Has Buffett invested in Bitcoin? Just curious. Smiley

No, and he advised against it.  He doesn't invest in tech and/or commodities IIRC.
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