Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud) - page 102.

iCEBREAKER

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: muyuu on November 06, 2015, 10:53:09 AM

No low is too low for good old felon Roger Ver https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rrm6g/bitcointalkorg_is_currently_down_please_consider/

The AMA overload failed to attract a critical mass of users, but the bills still have to be paid.

The desperation is palpable. Bitcoin Judas badly overestimated how much of a fuck anyone would give about yet another rump forum.

My prior analysis predicted this outcome. Those eager to defect from Bitcoin's existing consensus are by definition self-selected for fractious tendencies. Given their even higher than normal Bitcoin users(!) propensity to be unable to play well with others, they will naturally continue to recursively divide themselves into ever smaller groups.

Monty Python famously depicts this phenomenon in Life of Brian, as the People's Front of Judea despises the Judean People's Front and Popular People's Front (which is revealed to be a solitary individual) even more than the Romans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4

"Splitter!" Cheesy

This neatly illustrates one reason the Lindy Effect exists, as competing possible replacements to status quo are inherently cannibalistic and opportunities for possible cooperation are mitigated by narcissism of small differences.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on November 05, 2015, 12:48:50 PM

The idea of some n00b like you (even if you are [email protected]) lecturing people like Adam Back and Nick Szabo on Bitcoin fundamentals is laughable.

Adam is ridiculous. Whining about downvotes and not criticising the Greatest Censor of Bitcoin history.
Our iCEman will get Blocks with a cap that will be at least doubled next year. The stalemate ("which is the preferred outcome for bitcoin core") won't continue.
Bad outlook for the moronero trolls. (monero near alltime low now, by the way...).

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Quote from: tvbcof on November 05, 2015, 12:55:11 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on November 05, 2015, 12:48:50 PM

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That's OK, I welcome your contributions of humor to the forum, as one of the few remaining XTurd lolcows left around to milk for comedic reactions.

It would be interesting to know if there is a correlation between those who engage in formalize shilling and those who abruptly left when it was clear that trolling bitcointalk.org was a losing strategy in 'operation destroy-bitcoin'.

For me it has become more pathetic than it is amusing to see these dead-enders continue to try to hock their wares here.

Thank you for asking these questions. Do you happen to have a list of XTurds (with or without their activity status or notes)?

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Quote from: muyuu on November 06, 2015, 10:53:09 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on November 06, 2015, 08:25:04 AM

shameless corporatists...

No low is too low for good old felon Roger Ver https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rrm6g/bitcointalkorg_is_currently_down_please_consider/

What has to do the fact that bitcointalk got down with the XT debate? Don't tell me that XT supporters are so freaking extremist that would even make public the identity of each normal bitcoin user just to put them on shame?

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Quote from: hdbuck on November 06, 2015, 08:25:04 AM

shameless corporatists...

No low is too low for good old felon Roger Ver https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rrm6g/bitcointalkorg_is_currently_down_please_consider/

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shameless corporatists...

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on November 05, 2015, 12:48:50 PM

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That's OK, I welcome your contributions of humor to the forum, as one of the few remaining XTurd lolcows left around to milk for comedic reactions.

It would be interesting to know if there is a correlation between those who engage in formalize shilling and those who abruptly left when it was clear that trolling bitcointalk.org was a losing strategy in 'operation destroy-bitcoin'.

For me it has become more pathetic than it is amusing to see these dead-enders continue to try to hock their wares here.

iCEBREAKER

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: VeritasSapere on November 05, 2015, 10:21:02 AM

Everyone should read this:
https://medium.com/faith-and-future/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1
https://medium.com/@octskyward/on-block-sizes-e047bc9f830
https://medium.com/@riprowan/the-entire-debate-transcends-block-sizes-and-gets-to-the-fundamental-principles-of-bitcoin-as-c7f7bc1a493#.qj0wwps11

These are also informative:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/permanently-keeping-the-1mb-anti-spam-restriction-is-a-great-idea-946236
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-i-support-bip101-1164464

Inform yourself and decide for yourself using reason.

We spent the entire summer and fall reading that Gavinista agitprop, along with such now-debunked classics like "Capacity Cliff" and "Hard Landing" and Peter R's quasi-wonky sophistry.

The community has already informed itself and using reason decided BIP000 best fits the existing socioeconomic consensus.

You're just crying because you disagree with that decision, and wish to make it seem as if it was an uninformed choice.

The idea of some n00b like you (even if you are [email protected]) lecturing people like Adam Back and Nick Szabo on Bitcoin fundamentals is laughable.

That's OK, I welcome your contributions of humor to the forum, as one of the few remaining XTurd lolcows left around to milk for comedic reactions.

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Quote from: MbccompanyX on November 04, 2015, 12:33:33 PM

XD Veritas, so you don't care if for make a full node there will be a budget of 100,000$ only in eletricity? I agree with brg444 in this case because all what you just wrote not only is meaningless but even stupid

It is possible to work out the electricity costs to run a full node. Presently with 1 MB blocks a computer that easily keeps up with the network uses less than $10.00 of electricity per year. This computer can process roughly 100 million transactions a year, for an electricity cost per transaction of $0.0000001 per transaction. If the network has 10,000 nodes the total electricity cost amounts to $0.001 per transaction. Electricity cost is not a significant factor in the cost of running a full node today, nor is this likely to be the case in the future.

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Everyone should read this:
https://medium.com/faith-and-future/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1
https://medium.com/@octskyward/on-block-sizes-e047bc9f830
https://medium.com/@riprowan/the-entire-debate-transcends-block-sizes-and-gets-to-the-fundamental-principles-of-bitcoin-as-c7f7bc1a493#.qj0wwps11

These are also informative:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/permanently-keeping-the-1mb-anti-spam-restriction-is-a-great-idea-946236
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-i-support-bip101-1164464

Inform yourself and decide for yourself using reason.

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Quote from: muyuu on November 05, 2015, 08:53:21 AM

Quote from: MbccompanyX on November 05, 2015, 08:34:17 AM

Yeah i agree that veritassapere is good only to make lolz supporting things that doesn't make any sense, anyway i hope all those lolz will end after the end of the year when XT and BIP101 can be declared ultra-busted

I think it's more of a matter of them simply refusing to wake up to reality, to be honest. It will probably take Core introducing changes that are essentially incompatible to BIP101 and then they will have to declare defeat. Thus the desperation, because those changes might be about to come in the next couple of months.

Their declared nodes are at 7.7% now, blocks remain ridiculously low.

I think reality is slowly sinking in on Gavin, that's why he is currently launching another FUD campaign to avoid to be buried in oblivion.

The number of true XT-nodes is probably a greatly overestimated, because of NotXT.

ya.ya.yo!

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Quote from: muyuu on November 05, 2015, 08:53:21 AM

Quote from: MbccompanyX on November 05, 2015, 08:34:17 AM

Yeah i agree that veritassapere is good only to make lolz supporting things that doesn't make any sense, anyway i hope all those lolz will end after the end of the year when XT and BIP101 can be declared ultra-busted

I think it's more of a matter of them simply refusing to wake up to reality, to be honest. It will probably take Core introducing changes that are essentially incompatible to BIP101 and then they will have to declare defeat. Thus the desperation, because those changes might be about to come in the next couple of months.

Their declared nodes are at 7.7% now, blocks remain ridiculously low.

Yeah i agree that who still supports XT at this point is dreaming or is on despair and wants other to drop in that dream / despair (Almost reminds me of some random game but maybe i can't make a good connection) and anyway i hope to see some changes on 0.12 that will end this useless fight for the time really being because is damm early even with the tecnology to break the 1Mb block size wall

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Quote from: MbccompanyX on November 05, 2015, 08:34:17 AM

Yeah i agree that veritassapere is good only to make lolz supporting things that doesn't make any sense, anyway i hope all those lolz will end after the end of the year when XT and BIP101 can be declared ultra-busted

I think it's more of a matter of them simply refusing to wake up to reality, to be honest. It will probably take Core introducing changes that are essentially incompatible to BIP101 and then they will have to declare defeat. Thus the desperation, because those changes might be about to come in the next couple of months.

Their declared nodes are at 7.7% now, blocks remain ridiculously low.

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Quote from: hdbuck on November 05, 2015, 08:18:59 AM

Quote from: Carlton Banks on November 05, 2015, 08:13:01 AM

Quote from: muyuu on November 04, 2015, 01:06:36 PM

Edit your super-nested quotes. Your posts are insufferable enough without the extra text.

Yeah, I've tried to encourage that before. It's almost as if some people don't care how unreadable the thread becomes. knight22 takes first prize for this, he met my exhortations with the one-liner "Gotcha!" (I think he was attempting to subvert the meaning to suggest I was proposing "self-censorship" lol)

them renlentless shills/noob last resort is to burry the thread and awesome lulz-points that are being made with dozens of their irrelevant verbiage.
the sooner we get to a new page, the better for them, hiding under the carpet their shameful arguments..

veritaswannabe seems to be particularly good at this too.

Yeah i agree that veritassapere is good only to make lolz supporting things that doesn't make any sense, anyway i hope all those lolz will end after the end of the year when XT and BIP101 can be declared ultra-busted

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Quote from: Carlton Banks on November 05, 2015, 08:13:01 AM

Quote from: muyuu on November 04, 2015, 01:06:36 PM

Edit your super-nested quotes. Your posts are insufferable enough without the extra text.

Yeah, I've tried to encourage that before. It's almost as if some people don't care how unreadable the thread becomes. knight22 takes first prize for this, he met my exhortations with the one-liner "Gotcha!" (I think he was attempting to subvert the meaning to suggest I was proposing "self-censorship" lol)

them renlentless shills/noob last resort is to burry the thread and awesome lulz-points that are being made with dozens of their irrelevant verbiage.
the sooner we get to a new page, the better for them, hiding under the carpet their shameful arguments..

veritaswannabe seems to be particularly good at this too.

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Quote from: muyuu on November 04, 2015, 01:06:36 PM

Edit your super-nested quotes. Your posts are insufferable enough without the extra text.

Yeah, I've tried to encourage that before. It's almost as if some people don't care how unreadable the thread becomes. knight22 takes first prize for this, he met my exhortations with the one-liner "Gotcha!" (I think he was attempting to subvert the meaning to suggest I was proposing "self-censorship" lol)

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on November 04, 2015, 03:44:20 PM

just think it is kind of ironic he titles his blog post "Designing for Success" when his P2SH BIP was found to be buggy and bitcoin now has to live with it (forever?)

He's an "ideas man" now, which probably suits him better. Give Bitcoin 101 classes to kids in MIT and collect a paycheck, etc. Instigate hard fork attempts and collect VC rewards, and so on.

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Adam Back gets it in /r/bitcoin Grin

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I have at this point taken reward from negative clear insta bot votes: it means I wrote something insightful that the bot / brigaders were afraid others might see and be influenced by. Insta -30, wow I managed to say something clear and useful.

https://archive.is/iJn3e#selection-2799.1-2841.244

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Eadem mutata resurgo

Quote from: muyuu on November 04, 2015, 03:22:19 PM

Gavin Andresen does manage to sound daft sometimes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3riaa5/designing_for_success_gavin_andresen/

As this guy in reddit said:

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Gavin has most certainly been pushing a hard fork(by throwing his weight behind XT) and now he has admitted that he was doing it before the protocol could handle the results of the hard fork.

just think it is kind of ironic he titles his blog post "Designing for Success" when his P2SH BIP was found to be buggy and bitcoin now has to live with it (forever?)

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Gavin Andresen does manage to sound daft sometimes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3riaa5/designing_for_success_gavin_andresen/

As this guy in reddit said:

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Gavin has most certainly been pushing a hard fork(by throwing his weight behind XT) and now he has admitted that he was doing it before the protocol could handle the results of the hard fork.

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Quote from: LiteCoinGuy on November 04, 2015, 01:31:01 PM

that image explains the fact that only during stress test the size almost reach the limit of 1Mb while in other days it doesn't, i suppose that now everybody will understand that increasing the size isn't a good idea and period for ever

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