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Topic: Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud) - page 181. (Read 378996 times)

legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Now that XT is properly rekt, there is zero propensity for larger blocks in the short or medium term future.


I don't understand what the word "malapropism" means, but it sounds very intimidating (wow such syllables) so I'll throw it around regardless.

Sorry your dreams of bloated Gavinblocks never amounted to anything except the destroyed reputations of Galvin, Heam, Frap.doc, Peter R, solex, and yourself.

Oh wait, you never had a reputation in the first place.  Carry on.   Smiley


I feel like I've caught a terrible disease after reading through some of this argument.

Yes, this forum is legendary for causing cancer.  Only we trolls have herd immunity!   Grin
full member
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I feel like I've caught a terrible disease after reading through some of this argument.
hero member
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Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
Do you know what the word 'propensity' means?

Here, I'll use it in a sentence:

Im Hurtin', Momma.


I feel terrible - you sound genuinely hurt and sad.  Are we finally getting to you? Is the appalling vista of upcoming larger blocks finally dawning upon you?

Your arguments are getting more flaky and desperate by the day. I think you will have to extend you criminal dDos attacks to the whole bitcoin network soon as you start to deal with your sadness through anger.  

ps. I was joking about feeling terrible. So you feel sad? Good.

Your social engineering attacks may (for ADHD-limited times) be effective against Redditards, but they have no power here.

But please keep up the ugly displays of poor sportsmanship, because hearing such distraught lamentations wafting over the XT's rekt corpse is what's best in life.   Kiss

Please continue to share your pain through the medium of your posts. Its wonderful to witness it.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Do you know what the word 'propensity' means?

Here, I'll use it in a sentence:

Now that XT is properly rekt, there is zero propensity for larger blocks in the short or medium term future.


I feel terrible - you sound genuinely hurt and sad.  Are we finally getting to you? Is the appalling vista of upcoming larger blocks finally dawning upon you?

Your arguments are getting more flaky and desperate by the day. I think you will have to extend you criminal dDos attacks to the whole bitcoin network soon as you start to deal with your sadness through anger.  

ps. I was joking about feeling terrible. So you feel sad? Good.

Your social engineering attacks may (for ADHD-limited times) be effective against Redditards, but they have no power here.

But please keep up the ugly displays of poor sportsmanship, because hearing such distraught lamentations wafting over the XT's rekt corpse is what's best in life.   Kiss
hero member
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Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
XT's "great victory" only resulted in the functional ascendency of BIP000.   Cool

The blocksize debate is just as, if not more, deadlocked than before the XT fiasco.  That stalemate is EXACTLY the outcome Team 1MB wanted (TYVM!).

We Core defenders stuck XT's ludicrous plans in the deep freeze, just like Israel did with Dubya's Roadmap to Peace.  There, there.  Try not to be such a poor sport about it.   Wink


Ha HA!!  MPfaggery such as this might wash at whatever right wing circle jerk you hang out in, but most observers will see your original position being eroded away, not by a rejection of larger blocks, but with a range of large block alternatives being put on the table.

Its not about large versus small blocks, but simply HOW LARGE DO WE GO???  See what we did there?  Your rectum must be positively glowing red now...  Grin

This BIP000 nonsense is just the bottom of your very empty barrel of ideas.


I asked you to not be such a poor sport about winding up on the losing side of the Great (albeit abortive) Schism.

But there you are, projecting your epic butthurt onto us triumphant defenders of Core.

I guess hoping you could be a good sport was expecting too much from you.

Do you know what the word 'propensity' means?

Here, I'll use it in a sentence:

[ Classic MPfag Malapropism here...]


I feel terrible - you sound genuinely hurt and sad.  Are we finally getting to you? Is the appalling vista of upcoming larger blocks finally dawning upon you?

Your arguments are getting more flaky and desperate by the day. I think you will have to extend you criminal dDos attacks to the whole bitcoin network soon as you start to deal with your sadness through anger.  

ps. I was joking about feeling terrible. So you feel sad? Good.
hero member
Activity: 546
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Did you somehow miss the part where actual Bitcoin transactions are a marginal use case that is quite irrelevant to actual adoption as a speculative asset/store of wealth?

ROFL!!  Aw, dude, you're killing me. Just when I thought you couldnt get more retarded you spring this one on me!!  You still think this whole system is just a big pot of gold at the end of a rainbow somewhere, don't you?  That magical wealth has been created by .... Math?  
Yes. Mathematically enforced scarcity. Surely you didn't think people are holding onto Bitcoin because of its 7tps 10 min confirmation time payment system....?
That is why I think it should be increased. Mathematically enforced scarcity of the supply is important, this does not refer to the block size however. Not increasing the block size should be considered as the "change".
hero member
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Warning: Confrmed Gavinista

Did you somehow miss the part where actual Bitcoin transactions are a marginal use case that is quite irrelevant to actual adoption as a speculative asset/store of wealth?

ROFL!!  Aw, dude, you're killing me. Just when I thought you couldnt get more retarded you spring this one on me!!  You still think this whole system is just a big pot of gold at the end of a rainbow somewhere, don't you?  That magical wealth has been created by .... Math? 

Yes. Mathematically enforced scarcity. Surely you didn't think people are holding onto Bitcoin because of its 7tps 10 min confirmation time payment system....?

the scarcity is enforced by maths???  Jesus, you have no idea how it works, do you? The scarcity is a line of code which could be changed in a heartbeat. Only the security is enforced by "math".
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
XT's "great victory" only resulted in the functional ascendency of BIP000.   Cool

The blocksize debate is just as, if not more, deadlocked than before the XT fiasco.  That stalemate is EXACTLY the outcome Team 1MB wanted (TYVM!).

We Core defenders stuck XT's ludicrous plans in the deep freeze, just like Israel did with Dubya's Roadmap to Peace.  There, there.  Try not to be such a poor sport about it.   Wink


Ha HA!!  MPfaggery such as this might wash at whatever right wing circle jerk you hang out in, but most observers will see your original position being eroded away, not by a rejection of larger blocks, but with a range of large block alternatives being put on the table.

Its not about large versus small blocks, but simply HOW LARGE DO WE GO???  See what we did there?  Your rectum must be positively glowing red now...  Grin

This BIP000 nonsense is just the bottom of your very empty barrel of ideas.


I asked you to not be such a poor sport about winding up on the losing side of the Great (albeit abortive) Schism.

But there you are, projecting your epic butthurt onto us triumphant defenders of Core.

I guess hoping you could be a good sport was expecting too much from you.

Do you know what the word 'propensity' means?

Here, I'll use it in a sentence:

Now that XT is properly rekt, there is zero propensity for larger blocks in the short or medium term future.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
Increase the block size and if Core takes to long to do it then an alternative implementation of Bitcoin will.

"IF?"  "IF?"  "IF?"

From where did this wild "IF" suddenly appear?

All summer long, you Gavinistas were screaming that Core has already taken too long, and as a result Bitcoin is (for the greater profit of Blockstream) choking and dying, thus justifying [email protected] and [email protected]'s governance coup.

Now that XT got fukkin' rekt, you want to backpedal to a conditional hedge?


There is no conditional hedge.  Bitcoin is moving forward with bigger blocks, whether you like it or not.

1.  Bitcoin is not moving forward with bigger blocks anytime soon.

blah blah blah....  

2.  None of those options reflect well on you, and all are in line with our expectation that Hearn's fanboys will seek to mislead the public.   Wink

1. Wrong. This is going to happen, whether you are happy about it or not.

2. They dont go around openly advocating dDos attacks, the MPfag tactic du jour.
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
You think that Bitcoin transactions are irrelevant to the adoption of Bitcoin? It can be both a store of wealth and a currency, the two are not mutually exclusive actually they are synergistic. Increasing the utility of Bitcoin does increase its value and thereby does make it a better store of wealth. I have heard this said often now but it is a false dichotomy, Bitcoin can be many things to many different people.

I don't "think" it is, I'm certain given the facts observed.

80% of the existing coins are sitting in cold storage and haven't moved for years.

Bitcoin users willing to use its rather cumbersome payment system are a minority. Sure it works great for niche use cases but it quite honestly cannot compete with other alternatives for traditional mainstream retail usage.
I disagree, the ability to transact using Bitcoin directly is even personally important to me, you can use a mainstream retail payment solution if you want, I prefer Bitcoin. Smiley

Sure, it works great for a couple of my own niche use cases as well (overseas transfer, etc).

But no amount of "I disagree" is going to change the fact that this remains a marginal use case.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks

Did you somehow miss the part where actual Bitcoin transactions are a marginal use case that is quite irrelevant to actual adoption as a speculative asset/store of wealth?

ROFL!!  Aw, dude, you're killing me. Just when I thought you couldnt get more retarded you spring this one on me!!  You still think this whole system is just a big pot of gold at the end of a rainbow somewhere, don't you?  That magical wealth has been created by .... Math? 

Yes. Mathematically enforced scarcity. Surely you didn't think people are holding onto Bitcoin because of its 7tps 10 min confirmation time payment system....?
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
You think that Bitcoin transactions are irrelevant to the adoption of Bitcoin? It can be both a store of wealth and a currency, the two are not mutually exclusive actually they are synergistic. Increasing the utility of Bitcoin does increase its value and thereby does make it a better store of wealth. I have heard this said often now but it is a false dichotomy, Bitcoin can be many things to many different people.

I don't "think" it is, I'm certain given the facts observed.

80% of the existing coins are sitting in cold storage and haven't moved for years.

Bitcoin users willing to use its rather cumbersome payment system are a minority. Sure it works great for niche use cases but it quite honestly cannot compete with other alternatives for traditional mainstream retail usage.
I disagree, the ability to transact using Bitcoin directly is even personally important to me, you can use a mainstream retail payment solution if you want, I prefer Bitcoin. Smiley
hero member
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Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
The only revisionism going on there is pretending that XT was never a deadly serious (ie overambitious) attempt at an actual governance coup, which was willing to risk catastrophic consensus failure in order to achieve narrow process and technical changes of strictly limited value.

You are, by retroactively reframing XT as merely some kind of magical motivational poster, desperately trying to avoid the stinging cognitive dissonance of its inglorious defeat.

Team Gavin said things and acted as if XT would destroy Core with a bang, but what happened is XT died with only the faintest of whimpers.

And so, having crushed the enemies of Core, we now enjoy the lamentations of their women.   Grin
Just because you keep repeating this, it does not make it true. I have refuted many times now why XT is not the equivalent of a government coup, unless a government coup can be defined as needing 75% consensus. Roll Eyes

"Government" and "governance" do look really similar written down, but it's funny how the meaning changes so much when you substitute one for the other  Cheesy

Troll harder VertiasSapere, you're too consistently getting information wrong that construes the argument in dismissal of an invisible enemy: people who don't want scaling up. It's so openly transparent now that it's totally pathetic

Governance is what a Government does. Trying to argue that they are unrelated concepts is just being stupidly pedantic.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Increase the block size and if Core takes to long to do it then an alternative implementation of Bitcoin will.

"IF?"  "IF?"  "IF?"

From where did this wild "IF" suddenly appear?

All summer long, you Gavinistas were screaming that Core has already taken too long, and as a result Bitcoin is (for the greater profit of Blockstream) choking and dying, thus justifying [email protected] and [email protected]'s governance coup.

Now that XT got fukkin' rekt, you want to backpedal to a conditional hedge?


There is no conditional hedge.  Bitcoin is moving forward with bigger blocks, whether you like it or not.

Bitcoin is not moving forward with bigger blocks anytime soon.  You failed to specify when your assertion will be true and what form it will take.  It is the action of a coward to retreat from such refutable specifics into the non-falsifiable warm fuzzy generalities of "eventually."

"If Core takes too long" is most certainly a conditional hedge.  "If" is the hedge, "Core takes too long" is the condition.

That is a shift in advocacy, because previously the Gavinista narrative was 'Core has already taken way too long, so it's time for the nuclear option of a Great Schism.'

Maybe you don't understand why changing from a present-tense declaration to a future-tense conditional hedge is a shift in advocacy.  But the rest of us do.

Perhaps you don't appreciate why shifts in advocacy, as performative contradictions, destroy your credibility.  But the rest of us do.

You are either too stupid to know you are shifting advocacy, too stupid to understand why that's bad, or are trying to be sneaky with a subtle but dishonest retreat from your original position.

None of those options reflect well on you, and all are in line with our expectation that Hearn's fanboys will seek to mislead the public.   Wink
hero member
Activity: 546
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The only revisionism going on there is pretending that XT was never a deadly serious (ie overambitious) attempt at an actual governance coup, which was willing to risk catastrophic consensus failure in order to achieve narrow process and technical changes of strictly limited value.

You are, by retroactively reframing XT as merely some kind of magical motivational poster, desperately trying to avoid the stinging cognitive dissonance of its inglorious defeat.

Team Gavin said things and acted as if XT would destroy Core with a bang, but what happened is XT died with only the faintest of whimpers.

And so, having crushed the enemies of Core, we now enjoy the lamentations of their women.   Grin
Just because you keep repeating this, it does not make it true. I have refuted many times now why XT is not the equivalent of a governance coup, unless a government coup can be defined as needing 75% consensus. Roll Eyes

"Government" and "governance" do look really similar written down, but it's funny how the meaning changes so much when you substitute one for the other  Cheesy

Troll harder VertiasSapere, you're too consistently getting information wrong that construes the argument in dismissal of an invisible enemy: people who don't want scaling up. It's so openly transparent now that it's totally pathetic
Its a typo, seriously? Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3430
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The only revisionism going on there is pretending that XT was never a deadly serious (ie overambitious) attempt at an actual governance coup, which was willing to risk catastrophic consensus failure in order to achieve narrow process and technical changes of strictly limited value.

You are, by retroactively reframing XT as merely some kind of magical motivational poster, desperately trying to avoid the stinging cognitive dissonance of its inglorious defeat.

Team Gavin said things and acted as if XT would destroy Core with a bang, but what happened is XT died with only the faintest of whimpers.

And so, having crushed the enemies of Core, we now enjoy the lamentations of their women.   Grin
Just because you keep repeating this, it does not make it true. I have refuted many times now why XT is not the equivalent of a government coup, unless a government coup can be defined as needing 75% consensus. Roll Eyes

"Government" and "governance" do look really similar written down, but it's funny how the meaning changes so much when you substitute one for the other  Cheesy

Troll harder VertiasSapere, you're too consistently getting information wrong that construes the argument in dismissal of an invisible enemy: people who don't want scaling up. It's so openly transparent now that it's totally pathetic
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista

Just because you keep repeating this, it does not make it true. I have refuted many times now why XT is not the equivalent of a government coup, unless a government coup can be defined as needing 75% consensus. Roll Eyes

Dont worry about it. Its a basic tactic of the intellectually and ideologically bankrupt MPfags when they are against the wall - "Repeat a lie often enough and it might start appearing to be true"
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
You think that Bitcoin transactions are irrelevant to the adoption of Bitcoin? It can be both a store of wealth and a currency, the two are not mutually exclusive actually they are synergistic. Increasing the utility of Bitcoin does increase its value and thereby does make it a better store of wealth. I have heard this said often now but it is a false dichotomy, Bitcoin can be many things to many different people.

I don't "think" it is, I'm certain given the facts observed.

80% of the existing coins are sitting in cold storage and haven't moved for years.

Bitcoin users willing to use its rather cumbersome payment system are a minority. Sure it works great for niche use cases but it quite honestly cannot compete with other alternatives for traditional mainstream retail usage.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
XT was rejected. Get over it, we'll be scaling up without BIP101 or XT. Go away.

The only thing that has been OVERWHELMINGLY rejected is the "no increase in blocksize' mantra trotted out by core devs for the last 12 months. That hope and dream is lying in tatters on the ground as they scramble to reformulate their stand to include "Hey, bigger blocks are ok!!"  That is the great victory that XT has brought about.

Revisionist much?  

XT's "great victory" only resulted in the functional ascendency of BIP000.   Cool

The blocksize debate is just as, if not more, deadlocked than before the XT fiasco.  That stalemate is EXACTLY the outcome Team 1MB wanted (TYVM!).

We Core defenders stuck XT's ludicrous plans in the deep freeze, just like Israel did with Dubya's Roadmap to Peace.  There, there.  Try not to be such a poor sport about it.   Wink


Ha HA!!  MPfaggery such as this might wash at whatever right wing circle jerk you hang out in, but most observers will see your original position being eroded away, not by a rejection of larger blocks, but with a range of large block alternatives being put on the table.

Its not about large versus small blocks, but simply HOW LARGE DO WE GO???  See what we did there?  Your rectum must be positively glowing red now...  Grin

This BIP000 nonsense is just the bottom of your very empty barrel of ideas.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
XT was rejected. Get over it, we'll be scaling up without BIP101 or XT. Go away.

The only thing that has been OVERWHELMINGLY rejected is the "no increase in blocksize' mantra trotted out by core devs for the last 12 months. That hope and dream is lying in tatters on the ground as they scramble to reformulate their stand to include "Hey, bigger blocks are ok!!"  That is the great victory that XT has brought about.

Revisionist much?  

XT's "great victory" only resulted in the functional ascendency of BIP000.   Cool

The blocksize debate is just as, if not more, deadlocked than before the XT fiasco.  That stalemate is EXACTLY the outcome Team 1MB wanted (TYVM!).

We Core defenders stuck XT's ludicrous plans in the deep freeze, just like Israel did with Dubya's Roadmap to Peace.  There, there.  Try not to be such a poor sport about it.   Wink

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This XT move created a lot of division. So if XT was secretly designed to cause so much division that the block size could never be changed (i.e. nothing resembling consensus could ever be formed), then XT might be a success.

The only revisionism going on there is pretending that XT was never a deadly serious (ie overambitious) attempt at an actual governance coup, which was willing to risk catastrophic consensus failure in order to achieve narrow process and technical changes of strictly limited value.

You are, by retroactively reframing XT as merely some kind of magical motivational poster, desperately trying to avoid the stinging cognitive dissonance of its inglorious defeat.

Team Gavin said things and acted as if XT would destroy Core with a bang, but what happened is XT died with only the faintest of whimpers.

And so, having crushed the enemies of Core, we now enjoy the lamentations of their women.   Grin
Just because you keep repeating this, it does not make it true. I have refuted many times now why XT is not the equivalent of a governance coup, unless a governance coup can be defined as needing 75% consensus. Roll Eyes
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