Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud) - page 19.

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Quote from: sgbett on December 24, 2015, 05:02:42 PM

Enquiring minds want to know if astroturfers get christmas day off...

Before anyone jumps to any conclusions, that cuts both ways

It's amusing that this was the last post before Christmas. Nothing on Christmas. Then all hell breaks loose.

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Quote from: Lauda on December 27, 2015, 11:19:26 AM

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There exists a natural place where unicorns live.

I've said it. Does that mean it is true? Should I write a paper to confirm it? His words were obliterated by others long ago.

Maybe it becomes true if you repeat the quote in enough distinct posts. That's how truth works, right?

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Quote from: VeritasSapere on December 27, 2015, 10:27:46 AM

Bitcoin unlimited does have a blocksize limit in practice. It just changes how this limit is decided upon. Instead of the blocksize limit being decided upon by a centralized development team, which is akin to centralized economic planning and obviously flawed, the blocksize limit is determined by the market, miners and users collectively. I believe this does solve the dilemma of governance related to the blocksize issue and possibly other issues in the future as well.

Care to elaborate?

Quote from: Peter R

There exists a natural game-theoretic block size limit.

Quote from: Lauda

There exists a natural place where unicorns live.

I've said it. Does that mean it is true? Should I write a paper to confirm it? His words were obliterated by others long ago.

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XTers are gaining confidence with BU and Coinbase and RIP Maxwell and increased traffic at their clubhouses. They don't consider victory a foreskin conclusion, though. If they did, they would stop showing up here.

The day that they stop coming to this thread is not the day XT is rekt, but the day XT (or whatever non-Core utopia they end up claiming as their own) reaches adulthood.

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Quote from: Lauda on December 27, 2015, 09:55:07 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 27, 2015, 09:13:56 AM

Doesn't XT still have the potential to be activated by miners? Isn't dormant a better word?

Well technically it is. One could argue that as long as a proposal exists there is a chance for it to get activated by miners. If we were talking about probabilities though, it would be very close to null.

Quote from: Westin Landon Cox on December 27, 2015, 09:19:13 AM

I'm reserving judgment about BU. It's possible there's nefarious code in there to steal the bitcoins of ignorant big blockers. I think we can all agree that would be hilarious.

Unlimited blocksize is nefarious by itself. It's like trying to put unlimited cargo on a plane; good luck with that.

Repeating the same BS doesn't make it better. BU does not mean unlimited blocksize. Educate yourself before talking.

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Quote from: Lauda on December 27, 2015, 09:55:07 AM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 27, 2015, 09:13:56 AM

Doesn't XT still have the potential to be activated by miners? Isn't dormant a better word?

Well technically it is. One could argue that as long as a proposal exists there is a chance for it to get activated by miners. If we were talking about probabilities though, it would be very close to null.

Quote from: Westin Landon Cox on December 27, 2015, 09:19:13 AM

I'm reserving judgment about BU. It's possible there's nefarious code in there to steal the bitcoins of ignorant big blockers. I think we can all agree that would be hilarious.

Unlimited blocksize is nefarious by itself. It's like trying to put unlimited cargo on a plane; good luck with that.

Bitcoin unlimited does have a blocksize limit in practice. It just changes how this limit is decided upon. Instead of the blocksize limit being decided upon by a centralized development team, which is akin to centralized economic planning and obviously flawed, the blocksize limit is determined by the market, miners and users collectively. I believe this does solve the dilemma of governance related to the blocksize issue and possibly other issues in the future as well. I think that Peter R summed up this practical blocksize limit in Bitcoin Unlimited well by saying that:

Quote from: Peter R

There exists a natural game-theoretic block size limit.

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It's an experiment. Core supporters say it's untested. So why not test it?

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Quote from: Westin Landon Cox on December 27, 2015, 09:19:13 AM

Holy shit, this thread is still going?! I just figured I'd check in since Coinbase decided to go with a dead fork overnight. Couldn't happen to a dumber company.

Quote from: Lauda on December 27, 2015, 08:23:54 AM

Quote from: VeritasSapere on December 26, 2015, 08:46:40 PM

There have indeed been some very positive developments recently. Bitcoin Unlimited has also been officially released.

http://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/software

Horrible. Random people without any sufficient expertise think that know what is best (if one takes a closer look at the members page). Just don't come complaining about ad hominem, because this isn't the case.

I'm reserving judgment about BU. It's possible there's nefarious code in there to steal the bitcoins of ignorant big blockers. I think we can all agree that would be hilarious.

I guess this is XT camps latest attempt to grasp at straws and force their way into relevancy. By getting coinbase to run some of their nodes they are hoping for a modicum of legitimacy.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 27, 2015, 09:13:56 AM

Doesn't XT still have the potential to be activated by miners? Isn't dormant a better word?

Well technically it is. One could argue that as long as a proposal exists there is a chance for it to get activated by miners. If we were talking about probabilities though, it would be very close to null.

Quote from: Westin Landon Cox on December 27, 2015, 09:19:13 AM

I'm reserving judgment about BU. It's possible there's nefarious code in there to steal the bitcoins of ignorant big blockers. I think we can all agree that would be hilarious.

Unlimited blocksize is nefarious by itself. It's like trying to put unlimited cargo on a plane; good luck with that.

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Get your filthy fiat off me you damn dirty state.

Holy shit, this thread is still going?! I just figured I'd check in since Coinbase decided to go with a dead fork overnight. Couldn't happen to a dumber company.

Quote from: Lauda on December 27, 2015, 08:23:54 AM

Quote from: VeritasSapere on December 26, 2015, 08:46:40 PM

There have indeed been some very positive developments recently. Bitcoin Unlimited has also been officially released.

http://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/software

Horrible. Random people without any sufficient expertise think that know what is best (if one takes a closer look at the members page). Just don't come complaining about ad hominem, because this isn't the case.

I'm reserving judgment about BU. It's possible there's nefarious code in there to steal the bitcoins of ignorant big blockers. I think we can all agree that would be hilarious.

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Quote from: Lauda on December 27, 2015, 08:23:54 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on December 27, 2015, 07:47:37 AM

Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 07:59:36 PM

Career suicide.

kids
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Yup. I'm still not sure why randoms think that they have much influence.

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on December 27, 2015, 08:21:36 AM

Thats funny, brg444. If you were being ironic, I would say you were very clever, but I get the feeling you are not.

It is quite ironic that XT is dead.

Quote from: VeritasSapere on December 26, 2015, 08:46:40 PM

There have indeed been some very positive developments recently. Bitcoin Unlimited has also been officially released.

http://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/software

Horrible. Random people without any sufficient expertise think that know what is best (if one takes a closer look at the members page). Just don't come complaining about ad hominem, because this isn't the case.

Doesn't XT still have the potential to be activated by miners? Isn't dormant a better word?

@Westin Unfortunately most of the savvy big blockers switched forums. Echo-chambers for everybody!!!

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Quote from: hdbuck on December 27, 2015, 07:47:37 AM

Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 07:59:36 PM

Career suicide.

kids
-snip-

Yup. I'm still not sure why randoms think that they have much influence.

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on December 27, 2015, 08:21:36 AM

Thats funny, brg444. If you were being ironic, I would say you were very clever, but I get the feeling you are not.

It is quite ironic that XT is dead.

Quote from: VeritasSapere on December 26, 2015, 08:46:40 PM

There have indeed been some very positive developments recently. Bitcoin Unlimited has also been officially released.

http://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/software

Horrible. Random people without any sufficient expertise think that know what is best (if one takes a closer look at the members page). Just don't come complaining about ad hominem, because this isn't the case.

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Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 11:20:44 PM

It's clear as day to anyone not delusional that what it proposes is simply impossible hence why it's nothing but vapor ware. Sure you put out a client where every local node is able to select their "acceptable" block size. Big deal. Such ingenuity!

Thats funny, brg444. If you were being ironic, I would say you were very clever, but I get the feeling you are not.

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Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 07:59:36 PM

Quote from: HostFat on December 26, 2015, 07:33:11 PM

https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/680902843784544256

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Coinbase is now running BitcoinXT (BIP101) in production as an experiment, blog post w more details coming soon

Career suicide.

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Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 11:20:44 PM

Quote from: Peter R on December 26, 2015, 11:06:55 PM

Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 08:48:09 PM

Fuck off.

Bitcoin unlimited doesn't exist.

Wake up lil' brg444. It was all a bad dream. Bitcoin Unlimited isn't real. You're safe now with Mama Core.

It's a wonder Gavin has yet to comment on it since joining the ~~mental ward~~ bitco.in. Probably even he realizes how bat-shit crazy the idea is.

LOL

https://bitco.in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up.16/page-204#post-7407

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Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 08:48:09 PM

Quote from: VeritasSapere on December 26, 2015, 08:46:40 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 26, 2015, 07:55:35 PM

Quote from: HostFat on December 26, 2015, 07:33:11 PM

https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/680902843784544256

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Coinbase is now running BitcoinXT (BIP101) in production as an experiment, blog post w more details coming soon

Good.

There have indeed been some very positive developments recently. Bitcoin Unlimited has also been officially released.

http://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/software

Fuck off.

Bitcoin unlimited doesn't exist.

LOL

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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks

Quote from: Peter R on December 26, 2015, 11:06:55 PM

Quote from: brg444 on December 26, 2015, 08:48:09 PM

Fuck off.

Bitcoin unlimited doesn't exist.

Wake up lil' brg444. It was all a bad dream. Bitcoin Unlimited isn't real. You're safe now with Mama Core.

I guess you enjoy being the laughing stock of the dev community Peter Cheesy

You might have convinced yourself that BU is a thing but clearly you've haven't thought this through properly.

It's clear as day to anyone not delusional that what it proposes is simply impossible hence why it's nothing but vapor ware. Sure you put out a client where every local node is able to select their "acceptable" block size. Big deal. Such ingenuity!

I guess if your intention is to routinely ~~track consensus~~ fork yourself off the network then you've got a thing....

It's a wonder Gavin has yet to comment on it since joining the ~~mental ward~~ bitco.in. Probably even he realizes how bat-shit crazy the idea is.

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