Topic: BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior | More Evidence! - page 5. (Read 9357 times)
October 22, 2013, 07:23:55 AM
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October 16, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
I was talking to him in JD chat, and I don't feel like he's that bad of a person. I feel like all of his ratings are fair (with the exception of a D+ on peerbet circle, as there isn't even a review out yet). For all I know he is genuinley trying to run a website here. Until I see more hard evidence that he is running a corrupt website, he has the benefit of the doubt from me.
October 16, 2013, 08:56:30 PM
Mind the 19 "paying for quality" operators he mentions:
Just-Dice is listed as an A+ site, despite never having paid anything at all. We're not mentioned anywhere on the front page even though two other 'dice sites' are. As soon as I saw the site I got the impression the deal was that we had the option of paying up or having our rating downgraded. For weeks nothing happened, and we kept the A+ rating, then eventually:
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anyhow I been wanting to get in touch with you in regarding the advertising spot and promotions your receiving within www.bitcoincasinopro.com.. I put you up as I am a fan but every other company on the site pays an advertising fee most 5 btc for the year. I really need to pen up that premium spot if you would not be interested in keeping that location
I changed the subject, but eventually it came back to:
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I tell you what like I mentioned I love your presence on the forum and overall a solid name. I would be happy to eliminate the rate completely if you would apply your official A+ rating on the site its a high quality transparent logo
I didn't ever say "no", and maybe that's why the rating stayed as it did. We disappeared from the front page, and betcoindice or whatever they're called took our place as bestest dice site.
Thanks Chris for coming into this thread and showing support for what we believe in. I hope this eliminates some doubters as we continue to try and help in a field that needs someone to not only look out for players but companies alike. I can assure you we will not be perfect but if given that golden opportunity to pursue such and with guidance I see a high potential of success within the bitcoin gambling community.
October 16, 2013, 08:53:43 PM
Mind the 19 "paying for quality" operators he mentions:
Just-Dice is listed as an A+ site, despite never having paid anything at all. We're not mentioned anywhere on the front page even though two other 'dice sites' are. As soon as I saw the site I got the impression the deal was that we had the option of paying up or having our rating downgraded. For weeks nothing happened, and we kept the A+ rating, then eventually:
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anyhow I been wanting to get in touch with you in regarding the advertising spot and promotions your receiving within www.bitcoincasinopro.com.. I put you up as I am a fan but every other company on the site pays an advertising fee most 5 btc for the year. I really need to pen up that premium spot if you would not be interested in keeping that location
I changed the subject, but eventually it came back to:
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I tell you what like I mentioned I love your presence on the forum and overall a solid name. I would be happy to eliminate the rate completely if you would apply your official A+ rating on the site its a high quality transparent logo
I didn't ever say "no", and maybe that's why the rating stayed as it did. We disappeared from the front page, and betcoindice or whatever they're called took our place as bestest dice site.
October 16, 2013, 07:07:20 AM
here are my two topic
real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/real-story-how-bitcoincasinopro-handling-issues-309060
bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinlivebetscom-stealing-all-my-winnings-30-btc-300044
so bitcoincasinopro only assisted to bitcoinlivebets to steal all my winnings : 30 BTC
It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that here is something wrong. (bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account with stake 29,601 BTC, while they max limit is only 3 BTC)
http://www46.zippyshare.com/d/82456415/1815851/bitcoinkivebetsfakeaccounthistory.xlsx
after assisting for this robbing bitcoincasinopro upgraded bitcoinlivebets from C to B
I did not invest to bitcoincasinopro, perhaps bitcoinlivebets did ...
real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/real-story-how-bitcoincasinopro-handling-issues-309060
bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinlivebetscom-stealing-all-my-winnings-30-btc-300044
so bitcoincasinopro only assisted to bitcoinlivebets to steal all my winnings : 30 BTC
It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that here is something wrong. (bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account with stake 29,601 BTC, while they max limit is only 3 BTC)
http://www46.zippyshare.com/d/82456415/1815851/bitcoinkivebetsfakeaccounthistory.xlsx
after assisting for this robbing bitcoincasinopro upgraded bitcoinlivebets from C to B
I did not invest to bitcoincasinopro, perhaps bitcoinlivebets did ...
October 16, 2013, 01:00:28 AM
Thats very lame are these reviews trustworthy anyway ?
Of course not, they're utter bullshit.
October 15, 2013, 09:32:55 PM
Thats very lame are these reviews trustworthy anyway ?
October 15, 2013, 09:29:59 PM
Honestly I've tried both sites (peerbet and bit777) and lost 6 / 7 bets.
Clearly Bit777 works with cycles ensuring a % profit to the admin. (No proven fair, everything depends on the amount of the bet, is like a slots game cycles, like almost all casinos under regulation)
The 2nd game is "proven fair" but if you lose 6/7 bets.....bad luck...I guess...although the design are not attractive.
And overall the result: is very frustrating to lose so often. If you lose and enjoy awaiting the outcome does not matter lose, but if you know that the result is lost again and again deserves a D- no doubt. Lost 17 bitcoins and 0 fun.
Dude, google variance. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, that's how games of chance work. It's not the casino cheating you, it's just bad luck. Get over it. Clearly Bit777 works with cycles ensuring a % profit to the admin. (No proven fair, everything depends on the amount of the bet, is like a slots game cycles, like almost all casinos under regulation)
The 2nd game is "proven fair" but if you lose 6/7 bets.....bad luck...I guess...although the design are not attractive.
And overall the result: is very frustrating to lose so often. If you lose and enjoy awaiting the outcome does not matter lose, but if you know that the result is lost again and again deserves a D- no doubt. Lost 17 bitcoins and 0 fun.
October 15, 2013, 05:08:06 PM
Honestly I've tried both sites (peerbet and bit777) and lost 6 / 7 bets.
Clearly Bit777 works with cycles ensuring a % profit to the admin. (No proven fair, everything depends on the amount of the bet, is like a slots game cycles, like almost all casinos under regulation)
The 2nd game is "proven fair" but if you lose 6/7 bets.....bad luck...I guess...although the design are not attractive.
And overall the result: is very frustrating to lose so often. If you lose and enjoy awaiting the outcome does not matter lose, but if you know that the result is lost again and again deserves a D- no doubt. Lost 17 bitcoins and 0 fun.
Clearly Bit777 works with cycles ensuring a % profit to the admin. (No proven fair, everything depends on the amount of the bet, is like a slots game cycles, like almost all casinos under regulation)
The 2nd game is "proven fair" but if you lose 6/7 bets.....bad luck...I guess...although the design are not attractive.
And overall the result: is very frustrating to lose so often. If you lose and enjoy awaiting the outcome does not matter lose, but if you know that the result is lost again and again deserves a D- no doubt. Lost 17 bitcoins and 0 fun.
October 15, 2013, 12:00:34 PM
Oh, I can always make a competitor that isn't biased. The site doesn't look like it required a professional coder... 
October 15, 2013, 07:57:34 AM
We were downgraded to D+ for having slow payouts for one day out of our ~8 months of operation. If I didn't care less I would actually complain. Either way I agree with OP that the grades are ridiculously skewed.
I don't get the problem here, nobody pays the fucker and he doesn't get what he wants. Being a bitcoin gambler for over a year I know that his "ratings" are complete bullshit and don't trust anything that comes out of this guy's mouth. You all really oughta stop fretting about someone who is literally just here to get money. I've seen him vouching for other casinos in other threads, and I would bet a good amount of money that they were the ones that paid him.Speaking about that, uvwvj you still begging me via pm for that 1 BTC ?
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October 15, 2013, 07:32:59 AM
Why do people even care. His site has no SEO and gets very little traffic.
It's useless as fuck. Move on people.
It's useless as fuck. Move on people.
Zaih's right, wish Mem would show back up, either that or some trusted longtime member here start to take over for Mem with possible help from other members of site.
All he is doing is running the Better Business Bureau Scam http://bbbscam.net/ - well offering add space with no real payoff to the casinos as Zaih said no SEO and very little traffic.
"Many companies report that in order to get a decent rating with the BBB, you must pay the outrageous membership fees that range from $200 to $500. A lot of companies have thousands, or even six digit numbers of visitors a year, but when they receive even two complaints on the BBB website, their rating drops from an A + or – all the way down to a C or lower."
The irony.
October 15, 2013, 07:31:57 AM
We were downgraded to D+ for having slow payouts for one day out of our ~8 months of operation. If I didn't care less I would actually complain. Either way I agree with OP that the grades are ridiculously skewed.
I don't get the problem here, nobody pays the fucker and he doesn't get what he wants. Being a bitcoin gambler for over a year I know that his "ratings" are complete bullshit and don't trust anything that comes out of this guy's mouth. You all really oughta stop fretting about someone who is literally just here to get money. I've seen him vouching for other casinos in other threads, and I would bet a good amount of money that they were the ones that paid him. 
October 15, 2013, 04:43:32 AM
Hi,
I do not know Alan and to be honest I was not aware of Bitcoincasinpro until someone from the forum posted about their mediation regarding a dispute 3 weeks ago.
Alan has sent us a PM 3 days ago since they were writing a review about Anonibet. He asked me if there was something we would like to underline regarding Anonibet. He did not "threatened me" about any negative reviews or whatsoever. He even mentioned he has heard good things about Anonibet as one of the very first Bitcoin bookmaker. His email was professional and at the bottom there was the sponsorship opportunities and the related fees. I have opted to be a sponsor to his website for 2 reasons:
1. We need as Bitcoin gambling websites to contribute to the cost of such rating websites.
2. To promote Anonibet.com
I do not want to comment regarding the reliability of his ratings and listings. I am just sharing my personal experience with Bitcoincasinopro.
Regards,
Michael
I do not know Alan and to be honest I was not aware of Bitcoincasinpro until someone from the forum posted about their mediation regarding a dispute 3 weeks ago.
Alan has sent us a PM 3 days ago since they were writing a review about Anonibet. He asked me if there was something we would like to underline regarding Anonibet. He did not "threatened me" about any negative reviews or whatsoever. He even mentioned he has heard good things about Anonibet as one of the very first Bitcoin bookmaker. His email was professional and at the bottom there was the sponsorship opportunities and the related fees. I have opted to be a sponsor to his website for 2 reasons:
1. We need as Bitcoin gambling websites to contribute to the cost of such rating websites.
2. To promote Anonibet.com
I do not want to comment regarding the reliability of his ratings and listings. I am just sharing my personal experience with Bitcoincasinopro.
Regards,
Michael
October 15, 2013, 01:00:31 AM
Why do people even care. His site has no SEO and gets very little traffic.
It's useless as fuck. Move on people.
It's useless as fuck. Move on people.
October 14, 2013, 06:24:21 PM
Wouldn't trust this site at all. I see the original thread for it died after someone wrote of a complaint that wasn't addressed.
October 14, 2013, 03:24:40 PM
who is going to be thinking about this rating I believe all community now about sites which are running which is best or no I use peerbet long time never have any complaint and still very low rating cannot believe what this hell is this
October 14, 2013, 03:19:06 PM
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And all your doing is making yourself look like a douche bag that my friend you can take to the bank
BTW I was told to let you folks bury yourself I'm done with the conversation enjoy your rant.
BTW I was told to let you folks bury yourself I'm done with the conversation enjoy your rant.
You do seem to have some hot temper Alan.
October 14, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
We were downgraded to D+ for having slow payouts for one day out of our ~8 months of operation. If I didn't care less I would actually complain. Either way I agree with OP that the grades are ridiculously skewed.
October 14, 2013, 12:35:53 PM
We do offer provably fair and verifiable gaming on both websites, but this is not the issue we are discussing here. Your actions on the published screenshots is what we are discussing.
And what are these actions? We all seem to be missing the "smoking gun".. I'm assuming you think ratings are paid for but generally that is not the case and nothing in that 2nd image proves that. I can only think of one circumstance in which being a sponsor could affect ratings and that is if they are on the border line in regards to financial security and commitment. If a company is going to pay 12 BTC + a year and allow us to mediate any disputes we tend to favor these companies so yes that is indeed true and is highly probable they would get that slight bump from A to A+ etc.
I just ask you to meet me half way shoot me a pm when you feel like it and lets get your rating where you feel it should be. There is no perfect system and I can think of like 10 websites that offer similar ratings and guidelines and always up for suggestions on approving the "rating code guidelines"
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