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donator
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July 13, 2012, 06:17:52 AM
#70
Updated my post, #2
donator
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July 13, 2012, 06:16:00 AM
#69
No, this is not the users' fault. Why should the bitcoinica users eat all the loss?
member
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July 13, 2012, 06:10:32 AM
#68
If you knew genjix,

I wish I did right now.
donator
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July 13, 2012, 05:59:34 AM
#67
I also love the implications of health issues. As someone who has been screwed several times by eBayers, every time its always oh I've been in the hospital, or I've been visiting my parents funeral. Its really the oldest story in the book to buy time
If you knew genjix, you wouldn't say that. He may have handled the whole Bitcoinica thing sub-optimally, but he didn't lie to people.
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July 13, 2012, 05:57:11 AM
#66
Genjix, out of all Bitcoinica folks I've dealt with you've shown the most integrity. I have no intention of shooting the messenger. My anger is direct at Bitcoinica LP (whoever owns it) and the continued mismanagement of this situation. Please keep updating your customers with facts (however bad they are). All we care about is 1) getting our money back and 2) the truth. So take a breath and try to keep doing the right thing. You are OK.
+1. While the other rats have apparently fled, genjix have kept us informed, knowing he'd get the beating too.

Now I just want to know how someone can possible get away with withdrawing such amounts of fiat and bits from Mt. Gox. We've all seen the threads about locked accounts and draconian coin tracking over there, but this heist didn't set off any alarms?

I also love the implications of health issues. As someone who has been screwed several times by eBayers, every time its always oh I've been in the hospital, or I've been visiting my parents funeral. Its really the oldest story in the book to buy time
Genjix has a solid track record measured in both code and action in this community.
sr. member
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July 13, 2012, 05:55:31 AM
#65
I also love the implications of health issues. As someone who has been screwed several times by eBayers, every time its always oh I've been in the hospital, or I've been visiting my parents funeral. Its really the oldest story in the book to buy time
legendary
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July 13, 2012, 05:50:12 AM
#64
Does anyone actually believe this? They stole 40,000 usd from gox? Then it can be tracked plain and simple. But I'm sure no police report will be filed, because nothing was really stolen. Thats ignoring the fact that mtgox says they approve manually large withdrawals. Where is the 40,000btc? if its still in gox, gox can take it back if not where is it in the blockchain. The bitcoinica scammers really are getting careless now with their claims

maybe multiple small gox codes which where used to buy btc from different accounts and afterwards withdrawn immediatly?
but i am also not sure if i should believe it.

sr. member
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July 13, 2012, 05:48:33 AM
#63
Does anyone actually believe this? They stole 40,000 usd from gox? Then it can be tracked plain and simple. But I'm sure no police report will be filed, because nothing was really stolen. Thats ignoring the fact that mtgox says they approve manually large withdrawals. Where is the 40,000btc? if its still in gox, gox can take it back if not where is it in the blockchain. The bitcoinica scammers really are getting careless now with their claims
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Wat
July 13, 2012, 05:47:37 AM
#62
So sad.
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Mine Silent, Mine Deep
July 13, 2012, 05:46:59 AM
#61
This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Right. Because this has not been the most stressful time of my life.

I have physical health problems and need to see a doctor, but haven't had the time. On the forums I'm called a scammer and repeatedly insulted. Someone is trying to sue us. My bank gave me crap and held my money. I was borrowing cash from friends and spent 3 days eating bad muesli and cheap milk. I lost a lot of code by accident. I put a lot of work into the bitcoin.org clients page to make everything fairer, and now it will be removed, helping to recentralise bitcoin again. Electrum maybe has a security flaw and Macs have random problems. The conference needs the CFP announced soon, but I have to deal with Bitcoinica first. My health is suffering and im getting headaches. Right now is the first time I'm feeling depression, and I'm a little worried because I've never had it before but my father did. I emailed a health professional and they advised me to seek help. I've started sleeping very long, being very lethargic and apathetic. When the Bitcoinica thing first happened, I was considering suicide until Tihan said he had the funds.


Genjix, out of all Bitcoinica folks I've dealt with you've shown the most integrity. I have no intention of shooting the messenger. My anger is direct at Bitcoinica LP (whoever owns it) and the continued mismanagement of this situation. Please keep updating your customers with facts (however bad they are). All we care about is 1) getting our money back and 2) the truth. So take a breath and try to keep doing the right thing. You are OK.
legendary
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1davout
July 13, 2012, 05:43:41 AM
#60
This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Right. Because this has not been the most stressful time of my life.

I have physical health problems and need to see a doctor, but haven't had the time. On the forums I'm called a scammer and repeatedly insulted. Someone is trying to sue us. My bank gave me crap and held my money. I was borrowing cash from friends and spent 3 days eating bad muesli and cheap milk. I lost a lot of code by accident. I put a lot of work into the bitcoin.org clients page to make everything fairer, and now it will be removed, helping to recentralise bitcoin again. Electrum maybe has a security flaw and Macs have random problems. The conference needs the CFP announced soon, but I have to deal with Bitcoinica first. My health is suffering and im getting headaches. Right now is the first time I'm feeling depression, and I'm a little worried because I've never had it before but my father did. I emailed a health professional and they advised me to seek help. I've started sleeping very long, being very lethargic and apathetic. When the Bitcoinica thing first happened, I was considering suicide until Tihan said he had the funds.
Everyone fucks up, we're all humans, you gave lots.
If I can help you in any way let me know privately.
sr. member
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July 13, 2012, 05:40:50 AM
#59
Genjix,

the Intersango guys should have never agreed to assist Bitcoinica after the breach in the first place without being granted the ability to lock everyone else from accessing anything.

Also, how can one withdraw US dollars from Mt. Gox without a trace?

Also, has anyone locked down the Mt. Gox account, or is a hacker going to withdraw 40+40 tomorrow again?

I think you can do MTGOX USD codes that count against your USD limit, then just set up dummy mtgox accounts redeem codes buy BTC, withdrawal 100BTC from each of those...
aq
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July 13, 2012, 05:40:38 AM
#58
This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Right. Because this has not been the most stressful time of my life.

I have physical health problems and need to see a doctor, but haven't had the time. On the forums I'm called a scammer and repeatedly insulted. Someone is trying to sue us. My bank gave me crap and held my money. I was borrowing cash from friends and spent 3 days eating bad muesli and cheap milk. I lost a lot of code by accident. I put a lot of work into the bitcoin.org clients page to make everything fairer, and now it will be removed, helping to recentralise bitcoin again. Electrum maybe has a security flaw and Macs have random problems. The conference needs the CFP announced soon, but I have to deal with Bitcoinica first. My health is suffering and im getting headaches. Right now is the first time I'm feeling depression, and I'm a little worried because I've never had it before but my father did. I emailed a health professional and they advised me to seek help. I've started sleeping very long, being very lethargic and apathetic. When the Bitcoinica thing first happened, I was considering suicide until Tihan said he had the funds.

Don't do too much things at the same time. Deal with Bitcoinica first. Keep in mind, that whatever you will pay out, at least 2/3 of the recipients will be complaining. But once you have paid out all, there is at least nothing left fighting about. Then you can go back to coding and be happy again.

Someone is trying to sue us.
Did you expect everyone to wait forever?


legendary
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July 13, 2012, 05:39:01 AM
#57
This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Right. Because this has not been the most stressful time of my life.

[...] spent 3 days eating bad muesli and cheap milk. [...] I'm feeling depression, and I'm a little worried [...] I've started sleeping very long, being very lethargic and apathetic.


Seems like my own life. Grin
Except I was never involved in such an epic fraud.
donator
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July 13, 2012, 05:36:36 AM
#56
Genjix,

the Intersango guys should have never agreed to assist Bitcoinica after the breach in the first place without being granted the ability to lock everyone else from accessing anything.

Also, how can one withdraw US dollars from Mt. Gox without a trace?

Also, has anyone locked down the Mt. Gox account, or is a hacker going to withdraw 40+40 tomorrow again?
full member
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July 13, 2012, 05:36:32 AM
#55
This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Right. Because this has not been the most stressful time of my life.

I have physical health problems and need to see a doctor, but haven't had the time. On the forums I'm called a scammer and repeatedly insulted. Someone is trying to sue us. My bank gave me crap and held my money. I was borrowing cash from friends and spent 3 days eating bad muesli and cheap milk. I lost a lot of code by accident. I put a lot of work into the bitcoin.org clients page to make everything fairer, and now it will be removed, helping to recentralise bitcoin again. Electrum maybe has a security flaw and Macs have random problems. The conference needs the CFP announced soon, but I have to deal with Bitcoinica first. My health is suffering and im getting headaches. Right now is the first time I'm feeling depression, and I'm a little worried because I've never had it before but my father did. I emailed a health professional and they advised me to seek help. I've started sleeping very long, being very lethargic and apathetic. When the Bitcoinica thing first happened, I was considering suicide until Tihan said he had the funds.


See how you feel. Now imagine if as well all the money you won the previous years were taken from you. FEEL BETTER ?

Reimburse me and you ll have my full moral support on those forums. So far I have been quiet and trusting with everybody but I am waiting and waiting and nothing.
legendary
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Strength in numbers
July 13, 2012, 05:35:25 AM
#54
This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Right. Because this has not been the most stressful time of my life.

I have physical health problems and need to see a doctor, but haven't had the time. On the forums I'm called a scammer and repeatedly insulted. Someone is trying to sue us. My bank gave me crap and held my money. I was borrowing cash from friends and spent 3 days eating bad muesli and cheap milk. I lost a lot of code by accident. I put a lot of work into the bitcoin.org clients page to make everything fairer, and now it will be removed, helping to recentralise bitcoin again. Electrum maybe has a security flaw and Macs have random problems. The conference needs the CFP announced soon, but I have to deal with Bitcoinica first. My health is suffering and im getting headaches. Right now is the first time I'm feeling depression, and I'm a little worried because I've never had it before but my father did. I emailed a health professional and they advised me to seek help. I've started sleeping very long, being very lethargic and apathetic. When the Bitcoinica thing first happened, I was considering suicide until Tihan said he had the funds.


Get some sun if you can. I hate to say it, but it almost has to be up from here, right?
legendary
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July 13, 2012, 05:34:08 AM
#53
Bitcoinica - whoever that is, functionally - now needs to get whatever payments possible out ASAP. If people don't start seeing their money soon, someone is going to go to the police or a lawyer with this. That may very well happen whatever Bitcoinica do, but time is running out for them. I hate to even contemplate the kind of liability everyone involved in running the service might now be exposed to, or how big a mess any real investigation would become.

What the legal repercussions imply, IMO, is that they may decide they'd be best served in trying to settle accounts with the biggest customers at the expense of the smaller ones, and hoping they manage to appease everyone with enough incentive to give them real legal trouble. This would be unfortunate as it would mean some people getting completely shafted, but if the funds for a full refund aren't there, they're not there.
member
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July 13, 2012, 05:30:54 AM
#52
This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Right. Because this has not been the most stressful time of my life.

I have physical health problems and need to see a doctor, but haven't had the time. On the forums I'm called a scammer and repeatedly insulted. Someone is trying to sue us. My bank gave me crap and held my money. I was borrowing cash from friends and spent 3 days eating bad muesli and cheap milk. I lost a lot of code by accident. I put a lot of work into the bitcoin.org clients page to make everything fairer, and now it will be removed, helping to recentralise bitcoin again. Electrum maybe has a security flaw and Macs have random problems. The conference needs the CFP announced soon, but I have to deal with Bitcoinica first. My health is suffering and im getting headaches. Right now is the first time I'm feeling depression, and I'm a little worried because I've never had it before but my father did. I emailed a health professional and they advised me to seek help. I've started sleeping very long, being very lethargic and apathetic. When the Bitcoinica thing first happened, I was considering suicide until Tihan said he had the funds.


Cool story bro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

Give us our money back.
aq
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July 13, 2012, 05:27:38 AM
#51
The payments process was looking good, but now Patrick has walked away and I'm unsure what happens next.
Care to explain this?
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