Topic: Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised - page 39. (Read 156012 times)

Lol no shit.. ask Goat about getting verified with MtGox

Huh?

No we dont host patricks email

Our collaborator? please explain

As do I. Although I have no more then 1btc in Bitconica Its a real anguishing public shame to see what has happened and continued to happen. It also is really just encouragement for theft, perhaps if people didn't know BTC operations were so crappy people wouldn't put so much hard work into trying to rip others off.

That said, I'm confused- how did they transfer 40K in USD out of MtGox? It seems like there are a limited number of places a Mt-GOX code could be accepted, and it seems like it would be easy for MtGox to reach out and put a hold on that money. I'm sure it wasn't auto-processed by their banks.

BTW: I have had the hardest time in hell getting verified by GOX, mostly because I'm a traveler and they want your utility bills, which I never, personally pay. But after all thats happened, how is THEIR account verified and not mine? WTF?!?!

genjix, use your brain and at least LOCK the damn account to YOUR yubikey. DONT SHARE IT ANY LONGER! NOW GO, DO IT!
Edit: and REVOKE all API keys!

Maybe some jail time would also be the best that could happen to these scammers.

This has been one of the most stressful situations with maximum suffering I have ever experienced. I am furious and I hope everyone involved putting us through this gets what's due to them. Karma is a bitch, you fucking wankers.

Posted an update to the OP.

Maybe some jail time for some of those would be the best that could happen to bitcoin. Those guys are criminal careless with other peoples bitcoins. In the past Bitcoin Consultancy did seek government regulation of bitcoin. Now give a good example and report yourself to the police.

Why did even Tihan have access to any passwords? That's ridiculous.

Whoever is in charge should have long time ago created a new secure store for Bitcoins (if not for the USD) with a proper authentication trail and transfer everything there.

In your own interest, hire a crisis management specialist and a PR specialist before you fuck up to the extent that you end up in jail.

If this isn't criminal negligence, then nothing is.  Seriously!  At least disallow withdrawal and API key creation without a Yubikey.

You already showed us that your funds are not secure many many times.

The money is mine, I gave you all the report, you own me 5k BTC....................................

At least give me back the 2/3rd so I can not fall into a huge depression for loosing all the hard work I have accumulated into money this last few years.

I dont care wether it is zhou, genjix, or whomever. How can you sleep correctly knowing this mess.

Especially you zhou, I dont know many money you made of this bitcoinica startup but my life is kinda broken right now, but you sold it and made many money out of it, because of the trust people like me have put into your work.

Yes i am angry. Terribly sad and angry. For months I have been patiently waiting, because hope is better than nothing, but know I feel like hope is going away/

I might quit my job on monday. I cant bear working so much so I can extract a few hundreds euros each month while I lost all this money.

Yes, my fault in some way, for trusting you, but I am paying it full price while you guys are just suffering staint to your "reputation" ? How do we fucking care about your reputation ? Act like grown men and stop sending back like ping pong your "reputation" ?

There are broken people here like me and you guys shit us about "it is not me. I hate being associated wiht this. I dislike this staint to my reputation" WE DONT CARE. Sorry zhou but how can you feel good when your loyal customer have been broke for trusting you ? Hope the money feels right; my years of work have been wasted.

You care about your reputation ? Hand your money to the legitimate verified accounts as a buffer and then take the payments from bitcoinica. If not then WTF stop talking about it. Same goes for anyone associated with this.

And sorry genjix & the bitcoin consultancy or wathever, but you were in charge so lock everything correctly so thats YOUR RESPONSABILITY. WE DONT WANT YOUR FUCKING EXCUSES like "I dislike how badly this was done".

And you even gave back some people 100% because they are friends or wathever ?.............

As a Bitconica customer:

• I have $38,626 (BTC+USD combined) in Bitcoinica. (2 years of hard savings)
• I had no positions, no leverage, and was using it as an interest bearing savings account.
• My claim has been verified as accurate on 3 occasions.
• I have received exactly 0 back over the last 2 months.
• A large part of my deposits was from a 5 digit USD wire transfer between my bank account and Bitcoinica's bank account in NZ (CORE CREDIT) and cleared only 2 days before Bitcoinica was taken down.
• I had previously requested Bitcoinica to put all customer funds into escrow until the reimbursement issues were resolved

And now *THIS* happens?

I honestly feel sorry for all the people that lost, and keep losing money because of this.
I also feel very sorry for all the operators and the Bitcoin Consultancy, errors can have disastrous consequences, we're all humans, we all fuck up eventually.

I wish everyone that is impacted gets out of this with minimum suffering and stress.

How did you manage that? I am still waiting for my ~8btc

First I thought maybe one of them is actually Tom Williams.
But then, this Tom Williams handled the mybitcoin hack way more professionally then those "professionals".

I was also paid out 50% of my 15btc a while ago, for some reason they paid me early 

I do feel sorry for those guys with thousands of btcs locked into this mess..

It should simply be called MyBitcoinica.

Actually, I forgot that supposedly a few users already got paid out 100% of their claim, so unless they add some new money, people will get a little less than 2/3.

Who's gonna believe this?

At least it's funny to see the whole epic story of this properly executed fraud.

However I can imagine a lot of people finally loosing their good manners.
Therefore it could become of outmost importance for the perpetrators to take the diffusion of responsibility to the next level.

 

If I remember correctly it's one of your colaborators that is the prime suspect of being the BitcoinicaHacker.
Was it also BitVPS that was hosting Patrick's email server?

No inside job indeed...

Did he? He seemed to be claiming that a third party secure password storage site allows enough tries at guessing someone's password to their entire collection of passwords that some random hacker was able discover by blind luck which other site password or API key Tihan had used at the third party password-storage site.

Seems more likely Tihan set that up as a pre-prepared "excuse" then someone arranged to set up Gox with a fortune for "someone" to "steal" by "accidentlly' neglecting to use a Yubikey-secured account so that the "excuse" would pass muster with the extremely credible.

-MarkM-