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sr. member
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I don't see a point to keep discussing here in this thread
simply the site is dead and the OP has been inactive since a long time , it seems that only Betcoin , SWC and Lucky Flop proved themselves as monsters in the market

agree, i can see the website now was dead. almost no one play in their poker room only apolo88.
seems like they already gone yeah .
betcoinpoker is the biggest poker room on me, the community very strong also the tournament everytime, every minutes. very pro website.
but it was very nice launching for bitcoinpoker.gg in the firstime they online, they have a huge freeroll tourney, sadly now they already gone
legendary
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guess who's back
I don't see a point to keep discussing here in this thread
simply the site is dead and the OP has been inactive since a long time , it seems that only Betcoin , SWC and Lucky Flop proved themselves as monsters in the market
legendary
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Merit: 1354
I dont know what is going on but without freerolls you dont go anywhere.
You must have freerolls to bring players at your site.
It could be one per week.
 Cry

As discussed already, freerolls wont help the site to get active players except freerollers who will never play on the ring games. Even if it is only one/week as you suggested, there will be only more players on the freeroll days.
As we all know from the first 3-5months, they provided the best hourly freerolls but what they got? nothing...most players played only on the freerolls then cashed out the winning when they reached the minimum withdraw.
This is not the expected result by the owner..

newbie
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I dont know what is going on but without freerolls you dont go anywhere.
You must have freerolls to bring players at your site.
It could be one per week.
 Cry
legendary
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I think you're right that they may have been a bit naieve about what it takes to get something off the ground and running.  It does seem a little like they though that the quality of their site and an open line of communication on the forums would be enough---it's kinda a shame that it's not enough, really.  But in the end, I think you're right that they seem to have underestimated the difficulty and the crucialness of doing successful marketing.

Still, the site quality was good.  It's a shame it didn't take off.

I would not say they were naive. It is just that both the market and 'competitive landscape' have been shifting dramatically in the short period they have been operating. When SWC ran into legal issues there were about 15 new bitcoin poker sites that all simultaneously tried to fill the gap, when there is really only room for about 3-4 at most. Among those 3-4 SWC and Betcoin are firmly entrenched. So you are looking at +10 new sites competing to be the other survivor. Bitspoker is doing well enough (I hear) ... Bitcasino and Nitrogen are surviving due to their casinos. So, there really isn't any room for someone else at the moment unless they want to displace one of these relative 'incumbents.' Bitcoinpoker.gg was a fine operation, but just didn't have anything other than freeroll chips with which to try and draw players away.

None of them do a lot of advertising in the fiat world, though. I think if a site were to treat their business like an actual business, it'd go a lot better. But that also takes money.
full member
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I think you're right that they may have been a bit naieve about what it takes to get something off the ground and running.  It does seem a little like they though that the quality of their site and an open line of communication on the forums would be enough---it's kinda a shame that it's not enough, really.  But in the end, I think you're right that they seem to have underestimated the difficulty and the crucialness of doing successful marketing.

Still, the site quality was good.  It's a shame it didn't take off.

I would not say they were naive. It is just that both the market and 'competitive landscape' have been shifting dramatically in the short period they have been operating. When SWC ran into legal issues there were about 15 new bitcoin poker sites that all simultaneously tried to fill the gap, when there is really only room for about 3-4 at most. Among those 3-4 SWC and Betcoin are firmly entrenched. So you are looking at +10 new sites competing to be the other survivor. Bitspoker is doing well enough (I hear) ... Bitcasino and Nitrogen are surviving due to their casinos. So, there really isn't any room for someone else at the moment unless they want to displace one of these relative 'incumbents.' Bitcoinpoker.gg was a fine operation, but just didn't have anything other than freeroll chips with which to try and draw players away.
legendary
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Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

you should read the previous comments , freerolls isn't  an option when the site is not making profit
if we want the poker market to be bigger we should all start to put some coins in poker sites and forget about the freerolls
cause most of the poker sites these days seem broke and can't afford to make freerolls
we should generate some rake

it is difficult to survive in btc poker world, cause there are big sites like betcoin, swcpoker, nitrogen, luckyflop and so forth, they have revenue from casinos so they can continue to hold freerolls which can attract players. But pure poker site like this is not profitable, they don't have enough revenue to support freerolls, and can't get daily ring players, that's why they are dead now.

Since when did SWC have a casino?

The issue isn't the fact that it's just a poker site, it deals more with the software being used and a lack of advertising. Major poker sites in the fiat world are spending tens of thousands a month on advertising. You can't just release something on these forums and hope for the best -- it isn't going to be seen by many people. You also need to separate yourself from the competition.

I think you're right that they may have been a bit naieve about what it takes to get something off the ground and running.  It does seem a little like they though that the quality of their site and an open line of communication on the forums would be enough---it's kinda a shame that it's not enough, really.  But in the end, I think you're right that they seem to have underestimated the difficulty and the crucialness of doing successful marketing.

Still, the site quality was good.  It's a shame it didn't take off.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

you should read the previous comments , freerolls isn't  an option when the site is not making profit
if we want the poker market to be bigger we should all start to put some coins in poker sites and forget about the freerolls
cause most of the poker sites these days seem broke and can't afford to make freerolls
we should generate some rake

it is difficult to survive in btc poker world, cause there are big sites like betcoin, swcpoker, nitrogen, luckyflop and so forth, they have revenue from casinos so they can continue to hold freerolls which can attract players. But pure poker site like this is not profitable, they don't have enough revenue to support freerolls, and can't get daily ring players, that's why they are dead now.

Since when did SWC have a casino?

The issue isn't the fact that it's just a poker site, it deals more with the software being used and a lack of advertising. Major poker sites in the fiat world are spending tens of thousands a month on advertising. You can't just release something on these forums and hope for the best -- it isn't going to be seen by many people. You also need to separate yourself from the competition.

sorry, I didn't wanna say swc has a casino, LOL, why swc doesn't need casino to get profits? The answer is simple, it is an old and famous site, early bitcoin adopters who love poker like playing there. I just concentrated on the new sites like bitcoinpoker.gg, they need to learn from those sites have casinos cause they are not old and famous in the community.

i just wanna say if the sites don't have good traffic like betcoin(3k-6k daily active players), swc(200 daily active players), they need to run a casino to have revenue so that can run freerolls to attract new players in the long term, like bitcasino, luckyflop.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

you should read the previous comments , freerolls isn't  an option when the site is not making profit
if we want the poker market to be bigger we should all start to put some coins in poker sites and forget about the freerolls
cause most of the poker sites these days seem broke and can't afford to make freerolls
we should generate some rake

it is difficult to survive in btc poker world, cause there are big sites like betcoin, swcpoker, nitrogen, luckyflop and so forth, they have revenue from casinos so they can continue to hold freerolls which can attract players. But pure poker site like this is not profitable, they don't have enough revenue to support freerolls, and can't get daily ring players, that's why they are dead now.

Since when did SWC have a casino?

The issue isn't the fact that it's just a poker site, it deals more with the software being used and a lack of advertising. Major poker sites in the fiat world are spending tens of thousands a month on advertising. You can't just release something on these forums and hope for the best -- it isn't going to be seen by many people. You also need to separate yourself from the competition.

Didn't they tried all that? Sig campaigns, Marketing, Promotions.. And they ran the Freerolls for the longest amount of time but it didn't work and I think the problem is that there is a serious lack of BTC players who want to play Poker with their own money.

I have the feeling they were chasing the wrong venues with marketing. Marketing is 100% about who you're marketing to and how you're going about it -- if you are new to it and have no idea what you're doing, you're literally throwing money away since you won't get any benefit.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

you should read the previous comments , freerolls isn't  an option when the site is not making profit
if we want the poker market to be bigger we should all start to put some coins in poker sites and forget about the freerolls
cause most of the poker sites these days seem broke and can't afford to make freerolls
we should generate some rake

it is difficult to survive in btc poker world, cause there are big sites like betcoin, swcpoker, nitrogen, luckyflop and so forth, they have revenue from casinos so they can continue to hold freerolls which can attract players. But pure poker site like this is not profitable, they don't have enough revenue to support freerolls, and can't get daily ring players, that's why they are dead now.

Since when did SWC have a casino?

The issue isn't the fact that it's just a poker site, it deals more with the software being used and a lack of advertising. Major poker sites in the fiat world are spending tens of thousands a month on advertising. You can't just release something on these forums and hope for the best -- it isn't going to be seen by many people. You also need to separate yourself from the competition.

Didn't they tried all that? Sig campaigns, Marketing, Promotions.. And they ran the Freerolls for the longest amount of time but it didn't work and I think the problem is that there is a serious lack of BTC players who want to play Poker with their own money.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

you should read the previous comments , freerolls isn't  an option when the site is not making profit
if we want the poker market to be bigger we should all start to put some coins in poker sites and forget about the freerolls
cause most of the poker sites these days seem broke and can't afford to make freerolls
we should generate some rake

it is difficult to survive in btc poker world, cause there are big sites like betcoin, swcpoker, nitrogen, luckyflop and so forth, they have revenue from casinos so they can continue to hold freerolls which can attract players. But pure poker site like this is not profitable, they don't have enough revenue to support freerolls, and can't get daily ring players, that's why they are dead now.

Since when did SWC have a casino?

The issue isn't the fact that it's just a poker site, it deals more with the software being used and a lack of advertising. Major poker sites in the fiat world are spending tens of thousands a month on advertising. You can't just release something on these forums and hope for the best -- it isn't going to be seen by many people. You also need to separate yourself from the competition.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

you should read the previous comments , freerolls isn't  an option when the site is not making profit
if we want the poker market to be bigger we should all start to put some coins in poker sites and forget about the freerolls
cause most of the poker sites these days seem broke and can't afford to make freerolls
we should generate some rake

it is difficult to survive in btc poker world, cause there are big sites like betcoin, swcpoker, nitrogen, luckyflop and so forth, they have revenue from casinos so they can continue to hold freerolls which can attract players. But pure poker site like this is not profitable, they don't have enough revenue to support freerolls, and can't get daily ring players, that's why they are dead now.
legendary
Activity: 3066
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I entered just now and I don't see any freeroll available... how so?
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
this site had quite nice freerolls but they we're just made to bring freebies.
24/7 same players playing it (even some won it noone sit on ring and played on tables)
that's why i didnt play those freerolls.
but every poker site need to have some kind of freerolls but this ones we're not it.
loyalty for players who deposit and play are the one poker sites should reward and not freebies.
so making some freerolls for players on ring or some bonus deposit or some rakeback is what site should have.
all else will not attract real players it will only attract freebies.
regards.
-Katerniko1
legendary
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guess who's back
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

you should read the previous comments , freerolls isn't  an option when the site is not making profit
if we want the poker market to be bigger we should all start to put some coins in poker sites and forget about the freerolls
cause most of the poker sites these days seem broke and can't afford to make freerolls
we should generate some rake
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...

Read the last few pages here. The site has no freerolls at the moment and it is somewhat in limbo as a whole.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Nice Site with good presentation.
I have registered but can't seem to find any freerolls...
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
What is the updates of this website? Does the new owner takes over already? 

It never got sold, as far as I know. The listing ended 30 days ago without being completed (never hit the reserve). I wonder how much they're looking to sell it for, and what its current debts are.
hero member
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What is the updates of this website? Does the new owner takes over already? 
legendary
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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Without lowering any respect, this seem to be not feasible anymore. As already been stated by the owner that they are currently on the brink of falling which means that having freerolls will only means giving aways free money that currently they are needing to continue this site's operation, Beside you should note that freerolls only attract freerolls lurker and not the ring games player, to be able to survive the house must gain some revenue from rake
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Instead of pure freerolls, perhaps its better to them to provide freeroll that requires some rakes to join the freeroll (sorry to say, like on LuckyFlop).

That wont be the solution for this either. Luckyflop has done this thing however the number of ring players there isnt alot either , another example will be turntripspoker that did the same thing however they get the same result ( I mean no intention for cross advertising , just making some example ) .
Without lowering any respect (again) the site has fallen to the brink of almost closure and there is slightly chance for the chance to comeback. Poker site is pretty much hard to advertise ( this is a fact though )

Its crashing also helps explain this listing, which can be a great opportunity if someone truly feels they know how to revive the site.

Actually, I agree completely.  If a new owner comes in with a new plan then perhaps all will win.  The old owner for getting things started and hopefully getting a good price on a sale.  The new owner for hopefully doing a successful follow-up/reboot.  And all of us for having a browser-accessible, cross-platform bitcoin poker site.  It could be great!
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