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Top 5 as it stands.

Harkorede came back strong in the final round to clinch first place. Congrats on the win! In the three Serie A editions of this pool, we've got three different winners.

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Spezia and Verona will get their playoff after all, late drama in Rome.

Bologna with that late winner could get to play in Europe next season, that's of course if Fiorentina wins the Confs. League and Juventus gets a one-year ban from UEFA. Grin

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Quote from: morvillz7z on June 02, 2023, 04:22:12 PM

^^ Serie A has a new/old rule regarding relegation teams, specifically 17th and 18th. If both Verona and Spezia finish with 31 points (which seems likely), there will be a one-off match played at a neutral location. H2H, score difference does not matter. A playoff to determine who stays up and who gets relegated. I kinda root for that to happen...

I'd also love for that to happen, and I must confess I have never been aware of this up until this post of yours, this a relegation battle I'd fancy over the Bundesliga-esque promoted team vs relegated team offs to see who stays or who get promoted / relegated in the league.

So much for my bets today, I had a parlay on all the matches for this round on Over 2.5 goals, but it's as though they've all decided to go the other way round, and all just want to go for their summer holidays already.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on June 02, 2023, 04:22:12 PM

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A playoff to determine who stays up and who gets relegated. I kinda root for that to happen...

didn't know that, not sure that I prefer it to H2H during the season (they have played two matches during the season, why to have third to decide who is going down), because it is putting team that is in better form at the season end in advantage
although, both teams are now in shit form, Verona was at one point in better form, and reached Spezia, but last few matches both have troubles to get any points, even with teams that do not have much to play for

nevertheless, would like to see Verona staying, more than Spezia

you probably know all rules, but Bari won 1:0 against Sudtirol, and passed through on 1:1 aggregate, probably due to being better in regular season?
Parma and Cagliari are playing tonight

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I always seem to forget about this pool, must make more effort to remember it, especially us oldies right Wink

No chance for me for prizes but I started well with Fiorentina, maybe a final yellow cap at least to end my terrible season!

Quote from: morvillz7z on June 02, 2023, 04:22:12 PM

^^ Serie A has a new/old rule regarding relegation teams, specifically 17th and 18th. If both Verona and Spezia finish with 31 points (which seems likely), there will be a one-off match played at a neutral location. H2H, score difference does not matter. A playoff to determine who stays up and who gets relegated. I kinda root for that to happen...

Me too then, the more games the better, obviously, for fans and for us. I think this is the best rule of all, I prefer it to goal difference and H2H nonsense, I know it's one extra game but that should always be how to settle it, at the end of the season would be fine for most schedules anyway.

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^^ Serie A has a new/old rule regarding relegation teams, specifically 17th and 18th. If both Verona and Spezia finish with 31 points (which seems likely), there will be a one-off match played at a neutral location. H2H, score difference does not matter. A playoff to determine who stays up and who gets relegated. I kinda root for that to happen...

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 02, 2023, 02:12:57 PM

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I don't even know what has to happen in the last round for it to be considered a drama. The fight between Spezia and Verona for the right to stay in Serie A is probably mostly interesting only to their fans. Maybe if Roma lose again and get into the Conference League again? It will certainly be terrible and somewhat dramatic after such an overall good season.

drama in Premier league was also mostly about relegation, or I missed some other drama being stuck to follow Everton all along
Bundesliga is other story and they have put great story for Bavarians and a lot of material for Troll Football twitter account from Dortmund side

so drama between Spezia and Verona can also be respectful, maybe only to their fans, but could bring some following from others as well
if Roma loses last round, they will just add to point deduction to Juventus, and send them to Conference anyway, Calcio business

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Quote from: Trofo on June 02, 2023, 10:28:00 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on June 02, 2023, 06:33:35 AM

But in fact, all games where the result has an impact on other teams/depends on other teams are played at the same time on June 4th. I just checked all the teams that can dramatically change their position (Eurocup position/Relegation from Serie A) are: Roma, Juventus, Spezia, Verona, Atalanta - they all play at the same time.

Yeah, they grouped all the teams that play same battle in same time slot and then spread those slots over few days. More money from TV rights and not really a problem from fairness point of view. That being said I like to have a whole last round in one slot since that makes it somewhat special.

Premier League and Bundesliga last rounds gave us a lot of drama, I hope same will happen in Serie A and La Liga Grin

I don't even know what has to happen in the last round for it to be considered a drama. The fight between Spezia and Verona for the right to stay in Serie A is probably mostly interesting only to their fans. Maybe if Roma lose again and get into the Conference League again? It will certainly be terrible and somewhat dramatic after such an overall good season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 02, 2023, 06:33:35 AM

Quote from: Harkorede on June 01, 2023, 06:14:14 PM

Looks like Serie A or Lega Calcio has decided to deprive us of the full final game day drama, like Bundesliga and the EPL did last weekend, I know there are are quite a number slots and position stil not decided yet, and the most fun part of the day to be watching a getting all results simultaneously, from being nervous to being very hope and how the standings in the pool could fluctuate from kickoff to the final whistle is some kind feeling that doesn't come by so often, so I really would have preferred all the games being played at the same time.

But in fact, all games where the result has an impact on other teams/depends on other teams are played at the same time on June 4th. I just checked all the teams that can dramatically change their position (Eurocup position/Relegation from Serie A) are: Roma, Juventus, Spezia, Verona, Atalanta - they all play at the same time.

Yeah, they grouped all the teams that play same battle in same time slot and then spread those slots over few days. More money from TV rights and not really a problem from fairness point of view. That being said I like to have a whole last round in one slot since that makes it somewhat special.

Premier League and Bundesliga last rounds gave us a lot of drama, I hope same will happen in Serie A and La Liga Grin

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 01, 2023, 06:14:14 PM

Looks like Serie A or Lega Calcio has decided to deprive us of the full final game day drama, like Bundesliga and the EPL did last weekend, I know there are are quite a number slots and position stil not decided yet, and the most fun part of the day to be watching a getting all results simultaneously, from being nervous to being very hope and how the standings in the pool could fluctuate from kickoff to the final whistle is some kind feeling that doesn't come by so often, so I really would have preferred all the games being played at the same time.

But in fact, all games where the result has an impact on other teams/depends on other teams are played at the same time on June 4th. I just checked all the teams that can dramatically change their position (Eurocup position/Relegation from Serie A) are: Roma, Juventus, Spezia, Verona, Atalanta - they all play at the same time.

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 01, 2023, 06:14:14 PM

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so I really would have preferred all the games being played at the same time.

they have could try to do that, but obviously gave preference to their teams playing European competitions
Fiorentina is playing today due to Conference league finals, and then it does not mattered to have all others on same time, although La Liga did that, Sevilla playing day earlier due to Europa league finals (proved successful), but all others on same time, as usual

with all said, there is one dilemma, Spezia or Verona to Serie B, both having difficult matches aside, Milan and Roma, will be interesting to see will they keep their names to favorites, or just let go relegation fighters take points

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Quote from: Trofo on May 31, 2023, 04:04:47 AM

Sudtirol sounds like a name from PES when they did not have the licenses so opted for stuff like that Grin

Hahahaha yes and also his logo doesnt help so much.

Im not following so much Serie A really in this last years, i still miss the days when Serie A was one of the world leaders with Premier League, like the earlies 2000.

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Looks like Serie A or Lega Calcio has decided to deprive us of the full final game day drama, like Bundesliga and the EPL did last weekend, I know there are are quite a number slots and position stil not decided yet, and the most fun part of the day to be watching a getting all results simultaneously, from being nervous to being very hope and how the standings in the pool could fluctuate from kickoff to the final whistle is some kind feeling that doesn't come by so often, so I really would have preferred all the games being played at the same time.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 30, 2023, 03:41:22 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on May 30, 2023, 03:30:30 PM

it is a bit off-topic, but we don't have Serie B topic, and from these two one can enter Serie A next season
Cagliari overturned match against Parma in last ten minutes and won 3:2, after being 0:2 down, there is a second leg, but moral boost is certainly here

in other match Sudtirol won over Bari 1:0, but I expect from Bari to win at home and reach play-off finals

Thanks for information, I forgot about promotion playoffs. I really want that Parma would get promoted. Not just because it's legendary club, but more because of Buffon. It would be something special if he will get chance to make Last Dance in Serie A being 45 years old.
Sudtirol, honestly, I never heard about this club before this season. Their name sounds like it would be Austrian club and it was just their first season in Serie B.

I don't think anybody minds a small off topic like that here. After all some of those teams will be part of Seria A next season and we will have to predict their results as well.

Sudtirol sounds like a name from PES when they did not have the licenses so opted for stuff like that Grin

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Quote from: casperBGD on May 30, 2023, 03:30:30 PM

it is a bit off-topic, but we don't have Serie B topic, and from these two one can enter Serie A next season
Cagliari overturned match against Parma in last ten minutes and won 3:2, after being 0:2 down, there is a second leg, but moral boost is certainly here

in other match Sudtirol won over Bari 1:0, but I expect from Bari to win at home and reach play-off finals

Thanks for information, I forgot about promotion playoffs. I really want that Parma would get promoted. Not just because it's legendary club, but more because of Buffon. It would be something special if he will get chance to make Last Dance in Serie A being 45 years old.
Sudtirol, honestly, I never heard about this club before this season. Their name sounds like it would be Austrian club and it was just their first season in Serie B.

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it is a bit off-topic, but we don't have Serie B topic, and from these two one can enter Serie A next season
Cagliari overturned match against Parma in last ten minutes and won 3:2, after being 0:2 down, there is a second leg, but moral boost is certainly here

in other match Sudtirol won over Bari 1:0, but I expect from Bari to win at home and reach play-off finals

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 27, 2023, 05:29:48 AM

One last round to try and get a prize for those of us like me on the fringes. Felt like should have taken a risk with last night but in the end a draw nullifies even a home upset.

I actually still haven't got Serie A games on my ticket this week, despite some tempting odds (even Sassuolo game was over 2/1 but see how it ended up being a trap?).

That first prize winner is massive even at today's bargain Bitcoin huh. Good luck bastards.

Yeah, the winner would be working away with quite a bag of BTC, too bad we are not in the $60k per Bitcoin zone right now, but it's still going to be some relevant.

Atalanta vs Inter Milan ended up as close as I expected but Atalanta conceding two goals in 3 minutes put Inter Milan in the driving seat for majority of the game, and I knew there was no way to get totally back into the game for Atalanta, but they did had some great efforts and could have been a different game, if they'd not gone down by 2 freaking goals that early into the match.

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One last round to try and get a prize for those of us like me on the fringes. Felt like should have taken a risk with last night but in the end a draw nullifies even a home upset.

I actually still haven't got Serie A games on my ticket this week, despite some tempting odds (even Sassuolo game was over 2/1 but see how it ended up being a trap?).

That first prize winner is massive even at today's bargain Bitcoin huh. Good luck bastards.

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Hey guys here are the rewards for this pool, just to refresh the memory a bit:

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We have total of 132 mBTC in the pool this season and rewards will be given out for following positions:
1. Place - 60 mBTC
2. Place - 35 mBTC
3. Place - 17 mBTC (fees are paid from this prize)
4. Place - 10 mBTC
5. Place - 5 mBTC
Highest overall yellow cap - 5 mBTC

Highest overall yellow cap so far is in possession of
LTU_btc with monster 21.5 points all the way from round 3

If somebody has the time to double check this I would appreciate it.

Feel free to start sending me you BTC addresses if you are due a prize. Would love to pay it out as soon as the league finishes

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Yeah am with Mou on this, not sure why the other managers haven't spoken up (I suspect also worried it'll bite them back at some point) but Calcio keeps finding ways to make themselves look like the most incompetent organisers of league football.

Quote from: Harkorede on May 22, 2023, 07:00:46 PM

My mistake for the week ends up being what gave the yellow cap of the week, I mean Monza upset vs Napoli, but then is anyone paying attention to Saint-loup ransacking almost every single pool this season, extraordinary stuff!

I have been paying attention, and he's just getting away with it, I'm really upset with myself at not putting up proper fights... except in La Liga and I might even blow that with the remaining games as am only in 10th spot there.

I'm curious how he'd perform in Ligue 1 -- assuming he knows his stuff best in his local league ha

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Quote from: Trofo on May 23, 2023, 01:02:51 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on May 23, 2023, 10:33:23 AM

Quote from: Harkorede on May 22, 2023, 07:00:46 PM

<...> Truth be told, if they were supposedly going uphold the point deduction, the least they could is let count from next season, you don't give someone hope for a couple of weeks just take it back in the penultimate week before the season ends. <...>

Oh, don't you worry, there is another trial going on. Cheesy

Juventus is very likely to be docked points to begin next season as well. It's pretty serious what they did with players' salaries, cooking their books, etc.

It was delusional to think that the penalty would be overturned, if not for else, being reduced to 10 points this late favored them. All they had to do was win three straight...

No matter what they did, you can't play with penalty like this. Changing the points and granting it, then overruling it then again giving the penalty.....It makes a whole league look bad and impacts other clubs as well. I don't like Mou but I must agree with him on this point.

Juve is guilty, punish them as much as is appropriate but do it in a way to minimalize collateral damage to other clubs.

Exactly my point, point deductions aren't the kind of penalties that the Calcio FA whatever the hell they're called should be going back and forth with, if this stiff penalties are to be handed to a team, they best be sure it's going to be final and irreversible, not via any form of appeal or trial nor even the CAS, what the hell have happened to other disciplinary actions like Transfer ban or fines, huh ??

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