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Topic: Bitcointalk Escrows - Trade Safely! - page 24. (Read 108616 times)

legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
January 14, 2016, 01:24:16 AM
Honestly, I did not realize how much effort escrowing was until I stopped. It would take at least $5 per escrow to even be worth it.

My 0.03 BTC minimum translates to about $12 now. When most people realize this, they cancel the contract and move up to someone else. Saves me the hassle.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
January 13, 2016, 09:57:43 PM
Honestly, I did not realize how much effort escrowing was until I stopped. It would take at least $5 per escrow to even be worth it.
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1912
The Concierge of Crypto
January 13, 2016, 08:03:55 PM
Sounds like I need to double my fee.

Yeah, me too. I mean, it's already on a sliding scale and there is a minimum (which makes me last on the list.) But at least I don't get requests too often which I can't handle.

Maybe I'll fix it to 2% too, with the same minimum, or even higher.

That way, I'll only get serious offers, and they won't feel a waste of time or effort for so little.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 13, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
I think there is now a lack of trusted providers that will escrow forum accounts. I hope buyers here start to realize that escrows deserve some decent payments for being trusted and offering this service. I know that Master-P scammed, but look at his trust... it was all from escrows and nothing else (not nearly as trusted as others here). When you start to look at people's trust scores and really read the feedback you will notice there are not many people who are really trusted. I know it took me years of trading and being legit to get to the point I am now (hardly anyone asks to escrow when dealing with me). It is a lot of work dealing with trades and being responsive for people here. I know if people starting tipping/paying decent I would still be escrowing/in the big 5 etc..

I escrow accounts when they are worth at least $50. The work you have to invest in order to not get scammed as an escrow or to prevent the buyer from being scammed otherwise doesn't match the risk of lower valued accounts. At one point in time i accepted all account escrows and it took hours per day only doing that... for a very limited usefullness.

I think account sales should be stopped or at least forced to be done in secret.  My thoughts on providing escrow for them:

Please don't ask me to escrow bitcointalk account sales.  If you do, I will call the seller a scumbag and will call you a scammer.


You know, the standard fee on the litecointalk forum, is 2%. At least that's what all the admins/staff charge. (I'm Dabs there, in case you look.)

Sounds like I need to double my fee.
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
January 13, 2016, 06:32:50 PM
You know, the standard fee on the litecointalk forum, is 2%. At least that's what all the admins/staff charge. (I'm Dabs there, in case you look.)
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
January 13, 2016, 04:38:47 AM
I think there is now a lack of trusted providers that will escrow forum accounts. I hope buyers here start to realize that escrows deserve some decent payments for being trusted and offering this service. I know that Master-P scammed, but look at his trust... it was all from escrows and nothing else (not nearly as trusted as others here). When you start to look at people's trust scores and really read the feedback you will notice there are not many people who are really trusted. I know it took me years of trading and being legit to get to the point I am now (hardly anyone asks to escrow when dealing with me). It is a lot of work dealing with trades and being responsive for people here. I know if people starting tipping/paying decent I would still be escrowing/in the big 5 etc..



I escrow accounts when they are worth at least $50. The work you have to invest in order to not get scammed as an escrow or to prevent the buyer from being scammed otherwise doesn't match the risk of lower valued accounts. At one point in time i accepted all account escrows and it took hours per day only doing that... for a very limited usefullness.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
January 09, 2016, 05:24:48 PM
I had spoken to kludge around a year ago, and he claimed that he would sometimes receive tips as much as 25% of the value of the trade, primarily for deals involving mining hardware, and from those who regularly use him as escrow. He also said that most people who do not use him regularly will give him a very small amount or nothing at all, especially if there is some kind of dispute that he needs to mediate.

I can report that it was very rare that I would ever receive any kind of tip above the fee that I was charging. Although the small amounts received via my fee did add up after acting as escrow for a large number of deals over time.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
January 09, 2016, 04:55:44 PM
I think there is now a lack of trusted providers that will escrow forum accounts. I hope buyers here start to realize that escrows deserve some decent payments for being trusted and offering this service. I know that Master-P scammed, but look at his trust... it was all from escrows and nothing else (not nearly as trusted as others here). When you start to look at people's trust scores and really read the feedback you will notice there are not many people who are really trusted. I know it took me years of trading and being legit to get to the point I am now (hardly anyone asks to escrow when dealing with me). It is a lot of work dealing with trades and being responsive for people here. I know if people starting tipping/paying decent I would still be escrowing/in the big 5 etc..

Well said Blazed, by giving a decent tip to the escrow is a good way to show that you appreciate the service they do for the community.

Your post reminded of the last person I recall that questioned your word Cheesy



HA! The now famous Brewins paper...too funny.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
January 09, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
I think there is now a lack of trusted providers that will escrow forum accounts. I hope buyers here start to realize that escrows deserve some decent payments for being trusted and offering this service. I know that Master-P scammed, but look at his trust... it was all from escrows and nothing else (not nearly as trusted as others here). When you start to look at people's trust scores and really read the feedback you will notice there are not many people who are really trusted. I know it took me years of trading and being legit to get to the point I am now (hardly anyone asks to escrow when dealing with me). It is a lot of work dealing with trades and being responsive for people here. I know if people starting tipping/paying decent I would still be escrowing/in the big 5 etc..

Well said Blazed, by giving a decent tip to the escrow is a good way to show that you appreciate the service they do for the community.

Your post reminded of the last person I recall that questioned your word Cheesy

legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
January 09, 2016, 04:41:22 PM
I think there is now a lack of trusted providers that will escrow forum accounts. I hope buyers here start to realize that escrows deserve some decent payments for being trusted and offering this service. I know that Master-P scammed, but look at his trust... it was all from escrows and nothing else (not nearly as trusted as others here). When you start to look at people's trust scores and really read the feedback you will notice there are not many people who are really trusted. I know it took me years of trading and being legit to get to the point I am now (hardly anyone asks to escrow when dealing with me). It is a lot of work dealing with trades and being responsive for people here. I know if people starting tipping/paying decent I would still be escrowing/in the big 5 etc..

legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
January 07, 2016, 12:58:36 PM
Once again:

Marcotheminer, I didn't stop escrowing. I just don't want to be on this list anymore as nobody reads anything when they come from this thread.

Fixed! Sorry about that. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1027
January 07, 2016, 11:15:43 AM
This is the best option to do business with someone you don't know and don't trust. Be sure to use it when doing businesses with strangers!
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
January 07, 2016, 10:58:05 AM
not sure escrow here is great idea as last one ripped me off for 2.5 btc then weeks later the real guy said he sold the account and till a few days back was on the approved list here
legendary
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newbie
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January 06, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
hey can u send me detail what is escrow ?
copper member
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Verified awesomeness ✔
January 06, 2016, 05:31:23 AM
Once again:

Marcotheminer, I didn't stop escrowing. I just don't want to be on this list anymore as nobody reads anything when they come from this thread.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
January 06, 2016, 05:04:33 AM
escrow.ms has started escrowing again, he should probably be moved up to the big 5.
True thought of suggesting that (while I didn't have connectivity) and always slipped my mind(when I actually came up).
Edit: Post fixed
legendary
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:^)
January 06, 2016, 05:01:01 AM
escrow.ms has started escrowing again, he should probably be moved up to the big 5.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13304374
legendary
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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
January 03, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
Well PsychoticBoy seems to be good enough but i still prefer SebastianJu
Both are +12 (trust), from PsychoticBoy's posts i see him inactive for many months but from the trust i see that he was active almost a month ago.
SebastianJu is active mostly every day and that's why i suggested to be SebastianJu in the "Big 5" list.

Both are not +12, you forget to take your personal trust setting into account.

This is the current stats:
SebastianJu 70: -0 / +11
PsychoticBoy 108: -0 / +12

When that is said, one have a signature campaign to maintain the other do not, this could explain the difference in post activity (no offense meant to Sebastian, I think his posts are great).  PB is to my experience one of the most responsive escrows I have dealt with, you don't need to make posts everyday in order to be be a good escrow. Being responsive towards the clients is the important thing.

I respect your opinion, we all have our own personal list of escrows that we feel comfortable with. I was mostly referring to this statement you made:

--snip
Because nobody from "Others" deserves to be in that list before SebastianJu.

SebastianJu is a respectable escrow in this community, but so is PsychoticBoy (btw. he is also former staff member of this community), I think you went a bit to far be saying that he do not deserve to be before Sebastian,.

Not wanting to chime in since i had no contact with PsychoticBoy till now, i only wanted to say a word about my online times. I usually log in to read the new escrow private messages i receive because there are practically always new ones and lately i started to get a notification on my smartphone when i have a new pm coming in. In an effort to lower the reaction time.

When i post then it's most of the time in threads iam active in, i don't have much time for reading on the forum since it's pretty time consuming so when i have time i check all the answers in the threads and answer there. Though when i come online it is because i know new private messages came in.

Only as a notice. Smiley And thanks for those who trust me. It means something to me.
vip
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Merit: 1145
January 03, 2016, 04:45:50 AM
Master-p is still in the list Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

At least when you open his profile it's like a RED Christmas Tree Cheesy

Removed. Sorry about the delay. Smiley

Thanks, bud. Now, about having AL's Escrow Service fill the void...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yea lets use anything associated with Bruno

Gleb Gamow Bruno Kucinskas Is a scammer, a thief, a Liar and an Extortionist.

What a fuckin' idiot this Leroy Fodor is. He links you to a thread depicting what a fuckin' scammer I am, and when you go to it, it's locked. That's why I had to mirror his locked thread on my scammy ass so that Bitcoiners would have a place to pen what kind of piece of shit I truly am, and it's not locked nor self-moderated. Here it is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bruno-kucinskas-is-a-scammer-and-shouldnt-be-trusted-1012729

Meanwhile, the following is just a small sample of how Leroy Fodor has been proven a liar:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/pos-mining-stakeminers-com/3925/700


Ahh and now the attack on the country where I am, well let me share something with you. Cyberpinoy was the name of our internet cafe, (one of the businesses we sold) I in fact am not Filipino. I am american and a YANKEE of all horrible things HAHAHA.  Always remember its not very nice to judge people by the stupidity that is spread about their lifestyles or the uneducated stereotype rumors about where they are from.If I were to believe things like this I would assume since you are from Georgia, you are an inbred moron who most likely ate your sister mistaking her for a pig. You are most likely missing over half your teeth, bath in the river once a month,  and still staring at your Miners wondering how the mouse and keyboard connect to this computer HAHAHA. I would be careful how you stereotype people being from Georgia HAHAHA you guys have a few of your own.

And FYI the Philippines is not the country that killed their female young that was China and it was a very long time ago. Please update your library of books, or just get online and google stuff before you make such ridiculous posts.

November 29, 2014, 08:57:45 PM:

It is astounding to me how utterly stupid the Filipino people are. As an american living here i have noticed a lot about Filoipino native people. this is a country of opportunists. It has a population of people where 90% of the people are scammers, con artists, thieves, beggers, lazy with their hand out, want to get money for nothing people. Even the Huge business corporations are no different. Their business structure is lacking in so many aspects of true honest business. Their lifestyle lacks ethics of any kind, and the rule among thieves does not apply to these people. They are a monkey see monkey try and do kind of people. A follow the leader mentality. SO why more of these people who want to sit on their ass and do nothing for money have not jumped on board with Bitcoins is beyond me. They will sit in front of a computer for hours on end trying every work at home pyramid scheme you can find, I know becasue I own a internet cafe and watch them regularly wasting their time and money. Their ISP IPs are banned all over the internet for spamming, thier business structure lacks common business logic and business ethics. They are a culture full off opportunists who refuse to take advantage of an opportunity that can make them literally rich over here.


22-December-2014, 10:03 AM: http://www.world-bitcoin-forum.com/showthread.php/64492-Bitcoinbegger?p=563618&viewfull=1#post563618

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All you have done is increased awareness to his site, My family and I went thru a fire that destroyed our first mining farm with solar panels, as well as a 15 unit Internet cafe a Disco bar and a small grocery store, and above all our home and everything we owned. I am now stuck in the Philippines where everyone takes advantage of me, even overcharge me to buy the most basic needs like meat and other food. I can not get a job of any kind. We also asked the Bitcoin community for help even put our land up for sale for Bitcoins or to be used as collateral for a Bitcoin loan, We got nothing, not 1 satoshi from the wonderful wallet fulls of bitoins and its community. We could not even get a loan for some bitcoin to get another mining farm started. Everything I have in bitcoins I earned the hard way, working my ass off every day. At least this guy has a job, be it may be a job he is displeased with but he has one, I had to start a bitcoin business with absolutely no money in my pocket, spending sometimes 20 hours straight doing faucets every 15, 30 and 60 minutes religiously. This guy wasted his wealth on a bunch of pump and dump schemes, lost it gambling and doesn't like his job and wants everyone to bail him out. I am happy he chose the ethical route and asked for donations instead of scaming others, but sometimes you just have to buckle down, at least he has an income to try and build a bitcoin business, Try doing it with absolutely NO income of any kind.

The following is a timeline of what Leroy Fodor had to say about owning, selling, losing, etc., his Internet cafe there in the Philippines.

December 8 (local date), 2012: Leroy Fodor's cafe burnt to the ground.

May 26, 2013: Cafe operational.

July 4, 2013: My cafe...

January 16, 2014: I sold the cafe.

March 1, 2014: ...my cafe was one of the only cafes in our area...

March 15, 2014: I own a cafe.

March 22, 2014: I own a cafe.

April 7, 2014: My cafe will give you guys...

April 11, 2014: And I have people that come from about 12 different cities and play in my cafe.

May 15, 2014: ...in my cafe...

July 14, 2014: ...in my cafe...

October 23, 2014: Looking for a loan... I ended up selling the land...

November 23, 2014: Cyberpinoy was the name of our internet cafe, (one of the businesses we sold).

November 29, 2014: I own a internet cafe

December 22, 2014: ...a fire that destroyed our first mining farm with solar panels, as well as a 15 unit Internet cafe...

All the above is by Leroy Fodor depicting his INTERNET CAFE sans any twisted commentary by myself, Bruno.
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