Topic: Bitcointalk Escrows - Trade Safely! - page 19. (Read 108383 times)
I have used the bitcointalk forum escrow services and it works quite well. besides, you can find trusted escrow services with absolutely no fees.
~snip~
Anyone can see you bought this account, just because you have a hero member to play with doesn't automatically trusted enough to be an escrow.Quote
January 11, 2016, 08:40:13 PM - Billyboy402 - password changed
January 11, 2016, 08:37:26 PM - Billyboy402 - password changed
Edit: If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say you are OperatrJanuary 11, 2016, 08:37:26 PM - Billyboy402 - password changed
1. I'm not Operatr.
2. Yeah i changed my password two times in one day.
3. I have a limit of 0.05 BTC
There's trusted escrows in the forum, like bitpop, ognasty, sebastianju, etc
Don't risk your btc
Don't risk your btc
Bitpop pulled out on the tenth of this month - here... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13835292
1. I'm not Operatr.
2. Yeah i changed my password two times in one day.
3. I have a limit of 0.05 BTC
*Cough* Yup, you improved your english in a few months with a obvious gap. *cough* . But well, if you explicitly mention that you have the max limit of 0.05 BTC I have no problem with you. But until then you shouldn't be listed on the list, not that marco will anyway 2. Yeah i changed my password two times in one day.
3. I have a limit of 0.05 BTC
There's trusted escrows in the forum, like bitpop, ognasty, sebastianju, etc
Don't risk your btc
Don't risk your btc
| Billyboy402 | 0.001 BTC | BTC / Altcoins | None - Bitcoin signature | None |
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[td][url=https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/billyboy402-204384]Billyboy402[/url][/td]
[td]0.001 [btc][/td]
[td]BTC / Altcoins[/td]
[td]None - Bitcoin signature[/td]
[td]None[/td]
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my fee is 0.001 BTC only for a small transaction's under 0.05 BTC
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[size=14pt][b]Bitcointalk Escrows[/b][/size]
It seems as if there is no thread with a clear list of all the active escrows on bitcointalk that is regularly updated with relevant information.
Only members with announcements threads will be listed in their suitable category.
Have a suggestion or update? PM me or post here!
[b]Some tips:[/b]
- The escrows in the follow list are to be used carefully.
[b]- Always do your own research before trusting any escrow.[/b]
- The 'BIG 3' will be the most trustworthy, but at all times ensure you are talking to the right person and if possible, verify their PGP signature.
[color=green][b]The Big 3[/b][/color]
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[td][b]User [/b][/td]
[td][b]Fees [/b][/td]
[td][b]Cryptocurrencies [/b][/td]
[td][b]PGP Key [/b][/td]
[td][b]Official Thread[/b][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=133846]Monbux[/url][/td]
[td]0%[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522]Tomatocage[/url][/td]
[td]1%[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581834.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18321]OgNasty[/url][/td]
[td]1%(0.01[btc] min.)[/td]
[td]Bitcoin[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[b][color=teal]Others[/color][/b]
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[td][b]User [/b][/td]
[td][b]Fees [/b][/td]
[td][b]Cryptocurrencies [/b][/td]
[td][b]PGP Signature [/b][/td]
[td][b]Official Thread[/b][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640]SebastianJu[/url][/td]
[td]0%[/td]
[td]Bitcoin[/td]
[td]None - Bitcoin Signature[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/billyboy402-204384]Billyboy402[/url][/td]
[td]0.001 [btc][/td]
[td]BTC / Altcoins[/td]
[td]None - Bitcoin signature[/td]
[td]None[/td]
[/tr]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181001]BitCoinDream[/url][/td]
[td]0%[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864290.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54752]PsychoticBoy[/url][/td]
[td]1%[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]None - Bitcoin Signature[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=419908.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=51908]Blazr[/url][/td]
[td]1%[/td]
[td]Bitcoin[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930225.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=66213]Lyth0s[/url][/td]
[td]1%[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]None[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881921.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14283]bitpop[/url][/td]
[td]0.001[btc][/td]
[td]Bitcoin[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231416.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3028]Anon136[/url][/td]
[td]0.9%(0.01[btc] min.)[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]None[/td]
[td]None[/td]
[/tr]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16614]TwinWinNerD[/url][/td]
[td]1%(0.01[btc] min.)[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=722047.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54791]Dabs[/url][/td]
[td]1%(0.03[btc] min.)[/td]
[td]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td]Available[/td]
[td][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234939.0][ANN][/url][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=211419]redsn0w[/url][/td]
[td][s]0%[/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td][s]Available[/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820]DannyHamilton[/url][/s][/td]
[td][s]0%[/s][/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin[/s][/td]
[td][s]Available[/s][/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79720]cooldgamer[/url][/s][/td]
[td][s]0%[/s][/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin & Alts[/s][/td]
[td][s]Available[/s][/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=76380]escrow.ms[/url][/s][/td]
[td][s]1%[/s][/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin & Alts[/s][/td]
[td][s]Available[/s][/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98372]defcon23[/url][/td]
[td][s]1%+TX fee[/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin[/td]
[td][s]Available[/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320943]Muhammed Zakir[/url][/td]
[td][s]0%[/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td][s]Available[/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134378]Blazed[/url][/td]
[td][s]0%[/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td][s]Available[/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136592]devthedev[/url][/td]
[td][s]1%[/td]
[td][s]Bitcoin & Alts[/td]
[td][s]Available[/td]
[td][s][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708658.0][ANN][/url][/td]
[td][s][CLOSED][/s][/td]
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Leave a suggestion for an update below.
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[td][url=http://PROFILE LINK]USER[/url][/td]
[td]FEE[/td]
[td]FOR WHAT?[/td]
[td]PGP?[/td]
[td][url=http://ANN LINK][ANN][/url][/td]
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Anyone can see you bought this account, just because you have a hero member to play with doesn't automatically trusted enough to be an escrow.Quote
January 11, 2016, 08:40:13 PM - Billyboy402 - password changed
January 11, 2016, 08:37:26 PM - Billyboy402 - password changed
Edit: If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say you are Operatr January 11, 2016, 08:37:26 PM - Billyboy402 - password changed
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
What are your thoughts about?
What are your thoughts about?
Use Core. Don't intermingle your coins with coins held in escrow.
I use Core too.
As far as forks, if the coins to be held in escrow are not double spent (and you wait for confirmations), they will be in the escrow address, regardless of fork.
Remember that forks include all or most transactions. One chain may be longer than the other, but both will have your transaction of concern, that is, at the escrow address.
You could also wait out the event, it shouldn't last long.
Core is core. Everything else is simply another coin. Core will adapt if it needs to. If.
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
What are your thoughts about?
Use Core. Don't intermingle your coins with coins held in escrow.What are your thoughts about?
I'm really not ready to take such a risk. I mean it would be my error, at least if the users are not fully aware of me using a certain chain, and in worst case i had to refund a lot of bitcoins.
Discussion is about, it that did not happen.
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
What are your thoughts about?
What are your thoughts about?
Use Core. Don't intermingle your coins with coins held in escrow.
That is the determination of someone who believes firmly in core. Though there is the possibility that miners chose to support a bitcoin client that creates 2 mb blocks. Which could turn into a mess when you still run core and suddenly your coins become worthless because a fork wins the majority and the old chains coins lose their value.
I'm really not ready to take such a risk. I mean it would be my error, at least if the users are not fully aware of me using a certain chain, and in worst case i had to refund a lot of bitcoins.
If you don't move the coin(s) during the fork, you will not lose nothing ...
You might double your coins after the fork. You can send one coins to the receiver and hold the other one.
Update: I no longer do escrows.
This popped-corn needs more salt... and a tad more butter...
Update: I no longer do escrows.
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
What are your thoughts about?
What are your thoughts about?
Use Core. Don't intermingle your coins with coins held in escrow.
That is the determination of someone who believes firmly in core. Though there is the possibility that miners chose to support a bitcoin client that creates 2 mb blocks. Which could turn into a mess when you still run core and suddenly your coins become worthless because a fork wins the majority and the old chains coins lose their value.
I'm really not ready to take such a risk. I mean it would be my error, at least if the users are not fully aware of me using a certain chain, and in worst case i had to refund a lot of bitcoins.
If you don't move the coin(s) during the fork, you will not lose nothing ...
Yes, that is for sure. But iam an escrow so i meet similar problems an exchange would meet on a much larger base. As long as i don't want to stop my escrow service once a fork started and only resume it once one chain completely lost, i would need to find a solution to still be able to act as an escrow while avoiding the risks of a forking blockchain.
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
What are your thoughts about?
What are your thoughts about?
Use Core. Don't intermingle your coins with coins held in escrow.
That is the determination of someone who believes firmly in core. Though there is the possibility that miners chose to support a bitcoin client that creates 2 mb blocks. Which could turn into a mess when you still run core and suddenly your coins become worthless because a fork wins the majority and the old chains coins lose their value.
I'm really not ready to take such a risk. I mean it would be my error, at least if the users are not fully aware of me using a certain chain, and in worst case i had to refund a lot of bitcoins.
If you don't move the coin(s) during the fork, you will not lose nothing ...
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
What are your thoughts about?
What are your thoughts about?
Use Core. Don't intermingle your coins with coins held in escrow.
That is the determination of someone who believes firmly in core. Though there is the possibility that miners chose to support a bitcoin client that creates 2 mb blocks. Which could turn into a mess when you still run core and suddenly your coins become worthless because a fork wins the majority and the old chains coins lose their value.
I'm really not ready to take such a risk. I mean it would be my error, at least if the users are not fully aware of me using a certain chain, and in worst case i had to refund a lot of bitcoins.
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
What are your thoughts about?
What are your thoughts about?
Use Core. Don't intermingle your coins with coins held in escrow.
Any of the big escrow names could just as easily take off with a large escrow, just as the recent MasterP thing happened.
I don't consider ~23 BTC all that big. It wasn't just one transaction, it was many small ones that added up to that amount.
I don't consider 23 BTC to be very big either. As recently as in the last 60 days I was holding more than 700 BTC in escrow at one time for various trades. Not a single issue... Trade safely people. I'm not the only trustworthy person around here, but I'd be real careful trusting an escrow without 3+ years of experience.
This is a question to other escrows, regarding the risks of being escrow while an intentional fork is happening.
How will you behave? I mean every exchangee or escrow is running into the risk of receiving coins on a chain that will turn out to be the losing chain. In worst case the other chain wins and you will stay with a bitcoin address on the other chain that is unfunded. So if there is no solution to that risk i would need to close my escrow service since i could not risk losing bitcoins on the wrong chain.
My thoughts about this so far are that i should be able to eradicate this risk by A) chosing the chain that i think will win, and run my wallet on that. And B) run a wallet on the other chain too AND import all the escrow addresses from Wallet A to Wallet B. Then once i receive a payment then i will check if i receive the coins on both addresses. Which would be true when the coins on the input address were there before the fork already.
If one chain's escrow address, doesn't matter which, did NOT receive the coins then i either refund the coins or i offer to send the same amount of bitcoins to the escrow address on the other chain. Only when i hold the bitcoins on both chains i can be safe. There would be no risk then anymore when the chain i have the bitcoins on will lose. Because i have the bitcoins on the other chain too.
What are your thoughts about?
How will you behave? I mean every exchangee or escrow is running into the risk of receiving coins on a chain that will turn out to be the losing chain. In worst case the other chain wins and you will stay with a bitcoin address on the other chain that is unfunded. So if there is no solution to that risk i would need to close my escrow service since i could not risk losing bitcoins on the wrong chain.
My thoughts about this so far are that i should be able to eradicate this risk by A) chosing the chain that i think will win, and run my wallet on that. And B) run a wallet on the other chain too AND import all the escrow addresses from Wallet A to Wallet B. Then once i receive a payment then i will check if i receive the coins on both addresses. Which would be true when the coins on the input address were there before the fork already.
If one chain's escrow address, doesn't matter which, did NOT receive the coins then i either refund the coins or i offer to send the same amount of bitcoins to the escrow address on the other chain. Only when i hold the bitcoins on both chains i can be safe. There would be no risk then anymore when the chain i have the bitcoins on will lose. Because i have the bitcoins on the other chain too.
What are your thoughts about?
I think this might need more thoughts put into though.
Yes, much thought has been and will continue to pour into this. For now, 2-of-3 works fine, at least multisig is an option.Keep me updated on the development. In the past the cryptotech has surprised so often that i would not be astonished too much if there once a cryptech exist that can completely eradicate risks.
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