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legendary
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January 03, 2020, 09:38:35 PM
#42
are you still around? Show me these threatening messages! I do not take into account the subjective opinions of you or others. especially the freeloaders who seize the merit system, open new accounts and are rich in signature!
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 09:02:22 PM
#41
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/halving-whos-closest-with-actual-nrs-take-a-chance-on-the-list-5214437

Slightly of topic but threads as these and responses as written.....

Shows us BTCT is very alive, join if you want people no drama over there

Cheers

Thank you, I am up for it. I am making my way there right now  Grin
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 08:06:12 PM
#40
FAILURE to red tag them means you are corrupt and pushing double standards there can be no denial of this.
Point me accounts which are shilling for X10 and I will tag them.
You see how this kind of stuff just fuels itself? Oh it is excessive and selective how people are rated? Well then I will just start getting more excessive to make it more equally abusive! Funny the campaign managers share no responsibility here but random users picked out of retribution or arbitrarily tagged, that will change things!
I have time to tag some scam shills and cryptohunter said that he will find them and I will tag them. I have some strange feeling that you would like others to close their eyes and not warn people that someone or something is scam  Undecided

Would you like more or less scams here?
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 08:03:19 PM
#39
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/halving-whos-closest-with-actual-nrs-take-a-chance-on-the-list-5214437

Slightly of topic but threads as these and responses as written.....

Shows us BTCT is very alive, join if you want people no drama over there

Cheers

legendary
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January 03, 2020, 07:49:49 PM
#38
FAILURE to red tag them means you are corrupt and pushing double standards there can be no denial of this.
Point me accounts which are shilling for X10 and I will tag them.

You see how this kind of stuff just fuels itself? Oh it is excessive and selective how people are rated? Well then I will just start getting more excessive to make it more equally abusive! Funny the campaign managers share no responsibility here but random users picked out of retribution or arbitrarily tagged, that will change things!
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 07:47:05 PM
#37
FAILURE to red tag them means you are corrupt and pushing double standards there can be no denial of this.
Point me accounts which are shilling for X10 and I will tag them.


I have had this user on IGNORE for a very long time, maybe close to around 6-7 months because I felt it was impossible to engage with him after the way in which he posts. Just take a look at his trust feedback and that works as a good indicator.

Hats off to you with much respect deserved respect marlboroza because you continue to engage with lost causes. I tend to give the benefit of the doubt for a short time then add a lost cause to my IGNORE list but you try to engage with them.

Maybe in 2020 I should try to be even more patient and not use the IGNORE button on any user unless there is literally no other alternative.
member
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January 03, 2020, 06:59:17 PM
#36
If he had responded to your post with factual evidence justifying how and why those merits and trusts were received and given, we all would have seen the post. We all could have made an opinion about it but the evidence you have captured speaks volumes about what the OP is actually doing and how can any member simply accept it without pointing it out to him?
I was looking forward to read his reasoning why he included those people indeed. I got off-topic posts instead:
I've deleted wolwoo's off-topic posts. This topic isn't meant to just post a Trust list. Wolwoo is welcome to post again if he can add his reasons for the exclusions:
Share yours
I encourage everyone to keep track of the reasons behind their own exclusions too.
I don't think it's helpful to create many topics on this, feel free to use 1 post here for yours (including reasons), and I'll link it from the next post.
I can't wait to see "retaliation" as a reason instead of valid thoughtful reasons that are worthy of being on DT.
As a bonus, he did prove me right that he bases his Trust on retaliation.

Yes the OP did prove you right with regards to retaliation but he has nothing else to offer other than being aggressive, foul-mouthed, argumentative and condescending.

He should have at least taken the opportunity to try to clearly and calmly debate the case against him by providing facts and evidence to counter the evidence you presented so the debate could take place in a healthy environment. Instead he used an online-translator to post the following very colourful language:

Let's get to the topic,
Mr Loycev
Why do you support the bastards who put me and the signatories like me under suspicion?
open the title and ban all yobit signers. doesn't your ass eat?


Or is it easier for me to deal with because I'm the only one?

Can't you and your dog-henchmen scare me?





Are you PUSHING DOUBLE STANDARDS YES OR NO??

The initial poster is clearly CORRECT to respond to you and CORRECTLY state you are untrustworthy if YOU ARE. This is his DUTY not to be written off as retaliation LOL ... relying on robovac to dream you up an excuse is a SURE RECIPE FOR failure , that dunce is only good for copy and paste raw data spew right?? and eating scammer ass.

Hey policeman says alice, bob stole my phone again. Hmmmm says the DT policeman aka agent foxpoop, are you just reporting and making this known out of RETALIATION that is not allowed by the way.. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Don't forget alice if you told him you were coming here to report him we will also need to slap you with blackmail and extortion again hahahahaahahah


Here prove you are not pushing double standards.

Red tag now these members THEY ARE WEARING YOBIT SIGS . Failure to red tag them demonstrates you are untrustworthy for pushing double standards It is impossible to deny. I will bring more after you red tag these members to prove you are not pushing double standards

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yahoo62278-355846  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/johhnyua-623643

these are just 2 I found in a few seconds I will be adding more.

FAILURE to red tag them means you are corrupt and pushing double standards there can be no denial of this.

LAUDA and moronbozo often work together and are confirmed croatian trust abusers who likely are from the same deeply polluted gene pool.

Let me know when it is done. The initial poster has EVERY RIGHT to be pissed off and engage you in any way he feels he wants to if you refuse.

What is the point of being a " scam hunter" if you give free passes to your pals?? this makes you look even worse than doing nothing.

You will become like mosprognoz who suchmoon correctly notes CALLS OUT SCAMS then wants to work with them to make " lots of money " LOL

Scam hunting the perfect cover for scammers and double standards pushers.

I have no immediate beef with you but you can not be permitted to go around slamming double standards on people. Sort it out stop jumping on the low functioning spew excuses robovac sharts out for you that will always collapse under the slightest scrutiny.

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE RED TAGGED THESE MEMBERS AND I WILL BRING YOU SOME OTHERS.

Hiding behind he is angry at clear double standards being pushed on him, and he does not speak perfect english is pathetic.

When are you flagging mosprognoz and lauda for wanting to work with projects you CLAIM are 100% scams??

Scam hunters with double standards are MORE high risk that people that don't hunt scams at all obviously.

This is not me attacking you full on this is me telling you that you need to ensure you don't push double standards and create a 2 tier system. You still have time to fix your shit before you go on the KNOWING AND WILLFUL SCAMMERS and scammer supporters list.  Either punish or do not punish but making it fucking consistent or you are a scammer yourself that is NOT something you can deny. You can not pretend a certain behavior deserves RED TRUST for one person and NOT another.

Why are you not flagging mosprognoz for his actions here?? this involves behavior with a SCAM you are 100 % sure about?? Don't make me look for it ask suchmoon she was all over it and presented more damning evidence of this.

This is a thread specifically about your actions so you need to start making sure you have a very clean and CONSISTENT sheet or else that needs to be constantly talked about.

The initial poster has EVERY RIGHT to be aggressive and pissed off  if you are SINGLING him out for punishment you refuse to give to others.
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 05:06:35 PM
#35
If he had responded to your post with factual evidence justifying how and why those merits and trusts were received and given, we all would have seen the post. We all could have made an opinion about it but the evidence you have captured speaks volumes about what the OP is actually doing and how can any member simply accept it without pointing it out to him?
I was looking forward to read his reasoning why he included those people indeed. I got off-topic posts instead:
I've deleted wolwoo's off-topic posts. This topic isn't meant to just post a Trust list. Wolwoo is welcome to post again if he can add his reasons for the exclusions:
Share yours
I encourage everyone to keep track of the reasons behind their own exclusions too.
I don't think it's helpful to create many topics on this, feel free to use 1 post here for yours (including reasons), and I'll link it from the next post.
I can't wait to see "retaliation" as a reason instead of valid thoughtful reasons that are worthy of being on DT.
As a bonus, he did prove me right that he bases his Trust on retaliation.

Yes the OP did prove you right with regards to retaliation but he has nothing else to offer other than being aggressive, foul-mouthed, argumentative and condescending.

He should have at least taken the opportunity to try to clearly and calmly debate the case against him by providing facts and evidence to counter the evidence you presented so the debate could take place in a healthy environment. Instead he used an online-translator to post the following very colourful language:

Let's get to the topic,
Mr Loycev
Why do you support the bastards who put me and the signatories like me under suspicion?
open the title and ban all yobit signers. doesn't your ass eat?


Or is it easier for me to deal with because I'm the only one?

Can't you and your dog-henchmen scare me?



member
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January 03, 2020, 05:01:20 PM
#34
If he had responded to your post with factual evidence justifying how and why those merits and trusts were received and given, we all would have seen the post. We all could have made an opinion about it but the evidence you have captured speaks volumes about what the OP is actually doing and how can any member simply accept it without pointing it out to him?
I was looking forward to read his reasoning why he included those people indeed. I got off-topic posts instead:
I've deleted wolwoo's off-topic posts. This topic isn't meant to just post a Trust list. Wolwoo is welcome to post again if he can add his reasons for the exclusions:
Share yours
I encourage everyone to keep track of the reasons behind their own exclusions too.
I don't think it's helpful to create many topics on this, feel free to use 1 post here for yours (including reasons), and I'll link it from the next post.
I can't wait to see "retaliation" as a reason instead of valid thoughtful reasons that are worthy of being on DT.
As a bonus, he did prove me right that he bases his Trust on retaliation.

LOL at prove.

As usual most of your logic is completely BROKEN and low functioning.

1. I agree those promoting or enabling the advertising of scams  knowingle- once made aware ( 1 warning to remove) should be red tagged if they fail to remove the sig. I class yobit as a high risk bordering on scam site. HOWEVER this must go for ALL members I see some DT wearing that same sig with NO RED TAGS.  So if this is NOT universally imposed then that can not be a rule that should be enforced. Sure you will argue some will slip through the net, but even when you present this evidence if they are DT they are ALLOWED to continue unpunished. Like in the case of account selling with nutildah but people still flag up people for putting their accounts up for sale. Bogus and therefore can NOT be imposed as a universal rule. Until it is then people have the right to say fuck off to double standards. IF double standards are pushed on them THAT IS UNTRUSTWORTHY AND SCAMMING in most cases. You either believe something is WRONG or it is NOT WRONG. That does not depend on who does it.

2. Your point about retaliation is NULL and void if you are doing NOTHING wrong. If someone excludes you or red tags you when you are doing nothing wrong then they are certainly showing at a minimum POOR judgement and perhaps scamming people with double standards and taking these actions for personal gain which is clearly untrustworthy. This NO RETALIATION argument is bogus. Sure if you are busted doing something clearly WRONG that is  universally punished here as a clear consistent rule then to respond or attack in return is wrong because those tagging or excluding you are NOT untrustworthy they are enforcing a universal rule. If someone punishes you WRONGLY or is imposing double standards you MUST RESPOND to warn the community. LOL at no retaliation.

3. I mean asking ANYONE why they MAY decided to NOT include a bunch of people with documented and undeniable instances of clear financially motivated wrong doing is just hilarious. Asking him that as if it was a strange move just further makes you look foolish. I mean did you mean to write why would anyone  NOT exclude a bunch of people that are undeniable scammer or scammer supporters.Well done wolwoo that exclusions list looks almost 100% SPOT ON.

I feel people are again using selective enforcement against the initial poster, I feel loyce looks the other way for scammers and his other shady pals that cycle merit and trust and all include each other on DT then while trying to sound neutral scuppers and cries out if anyone tries to mount any challenge against them.

ROBOVAC is spamming away his chipmixer sig, praising tmans swearing and tourettes crap as poetry  then crying if others are rude of they are trolls if they dare alter the persons nick name (although those same people do it to others constantly). He loves double standards and pretending to take the high moral ground and be neutral. Fucker is a sniping sneaky dangerous little shit.

I think the initial poster is being discriminated against clearly.  Get red tagging EVERY member pushing this sig, and start scrutinizing EVERY members trust exclusions, inclusions , merit cycling to PALS the same and we can retract this.

I think he actual means the forums sense of fair play and sense of free speech is dead. To those that want to get on and aim for legendary and sigs and trading this is undeniably TRUE. You will be only getting there if you toe the controllers line and support them.

Merit cancer killed this forum. Basing trust upon it was insanity. The inital poster simply does not explain himself clearly enough sometimes but his core points have undeniable value.

There is truth in the initial posters post history. He needs to simply improve his ability to express his thoughts and keep emotion out of it as much as possible. Of course when you are being discriminated against and double standards pushed on you and punished by those that are far more dirty this is HARD.

Don't give up initial poster we salute those that will not be taken down quietly keep on fighting back. Those with backbone are in very short supply here.

Bitcointalk.org will never die, but the environment here has change a lot for the WORSE over the last 8 years for sure. It is still going down hill in terms of free speech and fair opportunities for all. Transparency and objectivity needs to replace this subjective back room collusion laden mess.

You can not dispel truth and observable instances of wrong doing because they are presented in an aggressive tone?? that is moronic. WRONG DOING IS WRONG DOING. Double standards is double standards.

You can fix your shit though as yet you are not a confirmed scammer or willing scam facilitator for pals or out of fear. DO the right thing IN ALL CASES.
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 03:51:30 PM
#33
If he had responded to your post with factual evidence justifying how and why those merits and trusts were received and given, we all would have seen the post. We all could have made an opinion about it but the evidence you have captured speaks volumes about what the OP is actually doing and how can any member simply accept it without pointing it out to him?
I was looking forward to read his reasoning why he included those people indeed. I got off-topic posts instead:
I've deleted wolwoo's off-topic posts. This topic isn't meant to just post a Trust list. Wolwoo is welcome to post again if he can add his reasons for the exclusions:
Share yours
I encourage everyone to keep track of the reasons behind their own exclusions too.
I don't think it's helpful to create many topics on this, feel free to use 1 post here for yours (including reasons), and I'll link it from the next post.
I can't wait to see "retaliation" as a reason instead of valid thoughtful reasons that are worthy of being on DT.
As a bonus, he did prove me right that he bases his Trust on retaliation.
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 03:41:31 PM
#32
I have read through the thread here. So much has been posted therefore I wanted to reply to some of the posts.


@JollyGood, I think it is not appropriate use of red trust to tag campaign participants. I agree it looks very shay for someone on DT1 to promote an exchange with an infinite number of complaints never solved. I even understand your intentions which is unabling the signature promotion around. But still it is not a decent reason to tag someone with red trust as an more larger group of users are already engaged in similar signature promotion. Let alone administration handle it as theymos did it last time by banning all the signatures, that could be the best way possible.

Same can be said to @marlboroza if they are willing to consider.
hacker1001101001 I am sorry to say I am somewhat disappointed with the content of the post you made because you incorrectly stated that I and gave red trust to the OP for the sole reason because he ran a particular signature campaign. This is the text of the feedback I left for the OP on 27th December 2019 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1003533):

BEWARE: wolwoo is not capable of engaging in a civilised debate. This user should not be trusted under any circumstances.

He is highly irrational, very immature and extremely condescending. He is heavily promoting the scam Yobit Exchange for the sake of a few pennies. There are allegations of him being in a small circle of Trust/merit scammers too.


For the sake of appeasement (if the majority of consensus prefer) I am happy to remove the comment about him promoting his signature campaign but can you see from the edited proposed feedback I will leave, it actually makes no difference to the essence of why red trust was left for the OP? There is factually nothing incorrect about what I wrote in the feedback:

BEWARE: wolwoo is not capable of engaging in a civilised debate. This user should not be trusted under any circumstances.

He is highly irrational, very immature and extremely condescending. He is heavily promoting the scam Yobit Exchange for the sake of a few pennies. There are allegations of him being in a small circle of Trust/merit scammers too.


Going a step further, please check this post I made 5 days ago when suchmoon was accused of negatively tagging everybody that was participating in the Yobit campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211902.180

In that linked post I corrected the allegation against suchmoon because he only left negative trust for Yobit and I also categorically stated the following:

"Other than leaving red trust for Yobit and just one Yobit signature promoter (because of his condescending conduct and deliberate misdirection not failure to justify why he was a die-hard Yobit promoter), I did not leave feedback for Yobit signature promoter.

In my view anybody promoting a scam are guilty of being a scam too simply by association but more important than that is the view I hold they are most probably more ignorant than anything else therefore I do not leave red trust for that reason alone. Had signature promoters investigated the facts fully then most would probably not participate in those scam campaigns.
"

At time of writing I was and still am against tagging everybody or anybody specifically because they are participating in a scam culture signature campaign for the reasons stated above. I gave reasons for specifically tagging the Yobit user account and the OP user account.

I feel without a shadow of doubt my negative tagging for the Yobit account and the OP is fully justified based on merit alone, therefore for you to say I made inappropriate use of the trust feedback system by tagging the OP is in my opinion incorrect. Please correct me if you feel I am wrong.



TL;DR : the tags you got are wrong use of trust system and you alone should not be targeted for campaign promotion.

Agreed, very insightful as are your other comments regarding the current DT system.

I hope @theymos is noticing that the current trust feedback structure is being used to silence dissenting opinions in the forum like some oppressive political weapon...

Once it's established that a member may be voicing unpopular or provocative opinions like Wolwoo here, it almost inevitably follows that some character assasinators like jollygood will emerge from their holes to paint these "renegades" red based on their non-trust related snowflake personal feelings, and the forum goes back to being an echo chamber of mediocre, lukewarm and extremely safe opinions, instead of the open-minded, intellectual platform most rational participants would presumably desire to have...
Personal feelings should not play a part in anything when it comes leaving negative trust but factual evidence should and does for most.

Simply reading the way somebody posts, reading through the topics they post in, reading through their justifications for participating in actions/inactions that many finds either distasteful, shady or even abhorrent, looking through the number of merits they send and receive and from/to who, looking at who is in their trust list and who is in their distrust list, looking at what their general aims and motives might be adding to their particular aggressive or petulant/immature mindset linked with obvious low tolerance of others and false sense or self-importance alongside an overinflated ego does give more than enough evidence for rational users to add appropriate feedback/trust. Add to that the regular barrage of profanities then things become even more clearer if that were even possible.

The OP seems to be a highly unstable individual who should take a break from this forum for a few weeks just to reset his mindset. Maybe when he returns he might be able to start engaging in a polite and courteous manner with users other than those from the Turkish language board and those that are part of the merit abuse and fake feedback circle that he participates in.

The OP is obviously lashing out at too many users especially those that have been around this forum protecting it, defending it, helping it and holding up its integrity for years. His judgement is failing him, he should try to build bridges and stop trying to fight the world when there is nobody fighting him...



@Vispillio I do hope that you're being sarcastic? What's become of this shithole? You're even claiming that JollyGood is evil, the kind which can only be compared to the accusations that I receive. Have most of you fucking lost your minds? Not many years ago you as a position of any authority were not allowed to call another position of authority e.g. a scammer without very substantial proof for this claim. Here we are today, you defending somebody who does the following:



Sounds like the system has indeed improved a lot in the last 2 years, now it's like fucking Twitter.
No Lauda he is not being sarcastic at all. It is called misdirection... a technique commonly used by any and all that want to try to deflect attention away from the real issue and try to open up another avenue for discussion.

I am not surprised at all for him trying to make the OP look like a victim that is being singled-out and hounded by a group of vigilantes but there problem for him is that there are no vigilantes. Some members of our community left negative trust for the OP based on their opinions of what they saw in his posts. I cannot speak for others but here is the negative trust I left for the OP, I can see nothing in that which is factually incorrect:

BEWARE: wolwoo is not capable of engaging in a civilised debate. This user should not be trusted under any circumstances.

He is highly irrational, very immature and extremely condescending. He is heavily promoting the scam Yobit Exchange for the sake of a few pennies. There are allegations of him being in a small circle of Trust/merit scammers too.




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When you post it like that marlboroza it become even more blatantly obvious but going by his overtly aggressive mindset with some profanities replacing courteous words and his failure for justifying exactly why he is hell-bent of refusing to accept there is anything even in the slightest bit shady (let alone a full blown scam) going on at Yobit, can only demonstrate he seems to be as much stubborn as he is aggressive.



@wolwoo, I understand your frustration, and being forced to make these arguments in English is probably adding to your frustration.  But anger isn't going to help you convince anyone that you are right.  In fact most will likely see it as immature, and choose to side against you as a result.  It's unappealing, and won't convince anyone.

I tend to agree that tagging someone for wearing Yobit's current signature isn't a good use of the trust system.  But I also understand why YOU were tagged and not others.  When Yobit tried to peddle their "InvestBox" pump and dump scheme using the forum's members, you defended them.  You tried to convince everyone that it's okay to promote what is an obvious scam, designed to look like an investment.  By doing so you lost credibility with me, and probably anyone who's seen this type of scam attempt before.
DireWolfM14 please note I did not tag the OP because he is participating in a signature campaign. I tagged the OP specifically for the reasons already listed above. I also stated several days ago I am against tagging users just because of the campaigns they participate in.

You are spot on, he lost credibility when he tried (and still is trying) to convince the investment scam is an investment plan as many of us have seen these types of scams before. In his mind he knows he has lost his DT1 rank and he knows he has no chance of becoming a Merit Source member and that is why he is lashing out.



I really enjoy the irony of many people who go to Bitcointalk only to say Bitcoin(talk) is dead! If that would be true, why are you here?

I called you out on what I consider incorrect use of the Trust system:
~wolwoo
1. In one week, this DT1-member added 24 users to his Trust list. Most of those users never left any feedback and don't have a custom Trust list. Therefore, they don't belong on DT2, and the user who adds them doesn't belong on DT1.
2. 4 months ago, this user left positive feedback to 16 users, all without reference link. The only thing they seem to have in common is their nationality, just like the users on his Trust list. That shouldn't be a reason to give them positive feedback and/or DT2-powers.
3. This user leaves retaliation feedback.
By using reason and arguments, I convinced many DT1 members exclude you, and your DT1 power dropped from +3 to -6 within a week.
And that is it Loyce. The fact he has seen his DT1 rank dropped is something has played a massive part in his tantrum.

I know part of the problem is his lack of English skills and the obvious using of online translators which on most occasions simply add another layer complexity over the original ramblings, rantings and ravings the OP regularly seems to post.

If he had responded to your post with factual evidence justifying how and why those merits and trusts were received and given, we all would have seen the post. We all could have made an opinion about it but the evidence you have captured speaks volumes about what the OP is actually doing so how can any member simply accept it without pointing it out to him?

legendary
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January 03, 2020, 01:36:00 PM
#31
no admin ever said "forbidden".

I don't know how many time it's been said, and how many more time it will take before you understand: Scams are not moderated, and neither are reviews.  Administration will not ban a signature just because some of us (or all of us) feel it's a scam.  It's up to us, the community to protect ourselves from scams.

The only reason theymos banned the Yobit signature earlier in 2019 is because it was not managed, and resulted in endless spam.  That created a lot of work for the mods, which was not fair to the forum staff.

Administration will not step in and prevent you from being red-tagged if you keep promoting them.  If you keep waiting for the admin to make your decisions for you, you'll be waiting a long time.  Like maybe, for ever.

so yobit + investbox + X10 token scam for you
I say not! result:?

yobit stock exchange did not suffer at all, I immediately took the amount I want. I have used many exchanges before, yobit is one of them ...
I didn't invest in investbox because I'm not a holder.
I traded X10 tokens, with my own money and some profit ...

back to the topic
to some of you I'm a scammer
all yobit signers scammer by some of you

I say, "No, I'm not, we're not."

If the Administration is not involved, the discussion will continue.
there was always discussion already. merit-trust-membership-signature-feedback ...

you are very superior in terms of merit system
trust system (DT1 + feedback) you are very superior
you have superiority in decision making
what's left for us? we are also "scammers"
I wonder if anyone here has invested in blockchain as much as I do. I've invested tens of thousands of dollars (and I lost a lot). those who are rich in signature can not give me directives.

go away

Besides, I'm not an extreme nationalist, because I don't speak English and I hang out locally. they call me "liberal-globalist." if someone throws me slander (without evidence) I will shit in his mouth, "he sent a message, scared people" if I want evidence or I will shit again.
it's that simple.
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January 03, 2020, 12:53:16 PM
#30
no admin ever said "forbidden".

I don't know how many time it's been said, and how many more time it will take before you understand: Scams are not moderated, and neither are reviews.  Administration will not ban a signature just because some of us (or all of us) feel it's a scam.  It's up to us, the community to protect ourselves from scams.

The only reason theymos banned the Yobit signature earlier in 2019 is because it was not managed, and resulted in endless spam.  That created a lot of work for the mods, which was not fair to the forum staff.

Administration will not step in and prevent you from being red-tagged if you keep promoting them.  If you keep waiting for the admin to make your decisions for you, you'll be waiting a long time.  Like maybe, for ever.
legendary
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January 03, 2020, 12:40:36 PM
#29
Yobit is a scam exchange.
Is that what all this is really about?  I think I recall something about this whole drama starting because of Yobit's campaign, but it got so out of hand so quickly that I almost forgot about that aspect of it completely.  And by the way, I've always said Yobit wasn't a scam exchange, but I'm starting to see things a bit differently after their whole "investbox" push.  That thing looks sketchy as hell.

I wouldn't say that's all it's about.  Wolwoo drew attention to himself with his trust list by including members who have legitimate red-tags, and by being very nationalistic with his inclusions.  Then he applied to become a merit source, and seemed to become frustrated with the lack of support for his application.  He was also one of the very few to apply the InvestBox signature to this profile.  Whenever he was criticized he lashed back with anger and insults.  I'd say this is a culmination of all of those things.

logically, if the part is defective, all of them are also defective. if X10 token is scam, investbox is scam, yobit is also scam. If yobit is not scam, if investbox is not scam, x10 token is not scam.
I said the only thing since the beginning of the event: Does the forum accept it? "yes or no!" no admin ever said "forbidden". I did not take into account the views of others and acted as I know.
I acted publicly in front of everyone.

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With all due respect


STAFF-ADMIN-MOD
Is this signature forbidden?

Yes? or No?



If it's not forbidden, I'il use the new signature. Nobody can do a dick.
I'm not asking fake moral guards, Introducing the gambling project etc...

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January 03, 2020, 12:26:24 PM
#28
Yobit is a scam exchange.
Is that what all this is really about?  I think I recall something about this whole drama starting because of Yobit's campaign, but it got so out of hand so quickly that I almost forgot about that aspect of it completely.  And by the way, I've always said Yobit wasn't a scam exchange, but I'm starting to see things a bit differently after their whole "investbox" push.  That thing looks sketchy as hell.

I wouldn't say that's all it's about.  Wolwoo drew attention to himself with his trust list by including members who have legitimate red-tags, and by being very nationalistic with his inclusions.  Then he applied to become a merit source, and seemed to become frustrated with the lack of support for his application.  He was also one of the very few to apply the InvestBox signature to this profile.  Whenever he was criticized he lashed back with anger and insults.  I'd say this is a culmination of all of those things.
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January 03, 2020, 11:52:56 AM
#27
If yobit scam stock market, investbox scam..block. Hundreds of members are advertising.
Or silence

Talking to people as though everyone who disagrees with you is your enemy is not good.
Totally agree.  I've had plenty of people disagree with me over the years, but I don't escalate things to an all-out war like OP apparently does.  And he wants to be a merit source?  Something tells me that if he were to get that position, he'd not only spend all his sMerits in the Turkish section but would only send them to his friends, whoever they are. 
No, I'm gonna get the merits up my ass.
Like everyone else, I'm gonna distribute it as I see fit.
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January 03, 2020, 11:43:14 AM
#26
Talking to people as though everyone who disagrees with you is your enemy is not good.
Totally agree.  I've had plenty of people disagree with me over the years, but I don't escalate things to an all-out war like OP apparently does.  And he wants to be a merit source?  Something tells me that if he were to get that position, he'd not only spend all his sMerits in the Turkish section but would only send them to his friends, whoever they are. 

Yobit is a scam exchange.
Is that what all this is really about?  I think I recall something about this whole drama starting because of Yobit's campaign, but it got so out of hand so quickly that I almost forgot about that aspect of it completely.  And by the way, I've always said Yobit wasn't a scam exchange, but I'm starting to see things a bit differently after their whole "investbox" push.  That thing looks sketchy as hell.
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January 03, 2020, 11:32:09 AM
#25
Grin "Power" determines what is right and what is wrong. Money, status, information, perceptions ... I'm going to ask you one question: if this token is listed in binance, would we mention it here?
The point is that this “token” will never get listed in Binance or any other place outside Yobit because it doesn’t exist and it’s a scam. Neither marlboroza’s A token. Smiley

Do we need to draw this for you?
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January 03, 2020, 11:09:36 AM
#24
 Grin "Power" determines what is right and what is wrong. Money, status, information, perceptions ... I'm going to ask you one question: if this token is listed in binance, would we mention it here?
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January 03, 2020, 10:47:14 AM
#23
Stop trying to defend it, it's not helping you.  You need to accept it for what it is.  Yobit is a scam exchange.  They are the worst kind of scam exchange because we don't have sufficient irrefutable evidence to prove it, but they are trying real hard to provide it.  It's just a matter of time before they pull an exit scam, but in the mean time they'll use their "InvestBox" to dupe as many suckers as they can.  They are not good for the crypto economy, and I refuse to support them.  Many people who'be been here a lot longer than me have similar opinions, because they've seen it before.  You're not going to convince anyone otherwise.

As for you wearing the signature, I don't care.  Obviously your income is important to you, more so than preventing a shitty exchange from scamming people.  That's your prerogative.  You can wear bitconnect's signature for all I care.  But don't expect me to value your judgement if you continue to do so.
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January 03, 2020, 10:33:24 AM
#22
One of thousands of shitcoins on the market! Yes. But you can't say no trade. If a whale gets behind the project, it may exist in the market for a long time. Pundix, for example, has been distributing warranty tokens for months.
It should be free to say here, there are many projects, it does not promise anything, it is constantly falling but the area-selling "scammers" are not declared. Moreover, you advertised the most of the project, by talking unnecessary, otherwise nobody would care. İt's would come on the market and remain one of thousands of temporary projects. I do not recommend as holders, but I use all the arguments in the market for trading.
This market is a young market and we have to settle for what we have until the conditions mature. The whole market carries high risk, even binance makes this warning at the end of each announcement. Let him stay away from this market that requires little risk.
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January 03, 2020, 10:18:00 AM
#21
@wolwoo, I understand your frustration, and being forced to make these arguments in English is probably adding to your frustration.  But anger isn't going to help you convince anyone that you are right.  In fact most will likely see it as immature, and choose to side against you as a result.  It's unappealing, and won't convince anyone.

I tend to agree that tagging someone for wearing Yobit's current signature isn't a good use of the trust system.  But I also understand why YOU were tagged and not others.  When Yobit tried to peddle their "InvestBox" pump and dump scheme using the forum's members, you defended them.  You tried to convince everyone that it's okay to promote what is an obvious scam, designed to look like an investment.  By doing so you lost credibility with me, and probably anyone who's seen this type of scam attempt before.

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January 03, 2020, 10:00:50 AM
#20
10% extra token guaranteed
Would you like to buy some letters from me?

I am selling 1000 "A" and each day I will send you 10% (or 100 "A") in your PM. In a year you will have so many "A"s that you will be "A" rich as a fuck.

Yes, I have unlimited supply of "A"s.

You can sell those "A"'s to other users, just forward my PM and pass ownership to them.
You can also withdraw "A"s to paper, if you have printer, of course...

It is 100% safe to buy "A"s from me.

/s
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January 03, 2020, 09:43:33 AM
#19
Same can be said to @marlboroza if they are willing to consider.
There is reference, you know...

Question for you. Pump and dump/ponzi/whatever coin/token/numbers/air is ok?

Why have you created flag against this and this then? What is difference, one has stolen content and team without social media profiles, while X10 doesn't have team, whitepaper, roadmap, algo, wallet, nothing except words "it is 100% safe, invest and you will get 10% daily"!

If I start shilling for projects you flagged, would you tag me as a scam promoter or you will say "you are ok, it is ok to share your opinion and shill for scam which I have flagged"?
Is there a non-pump dump coin on the market?
10% extra token guaranteed
Talk and talk and talk....
If you are authorized, please take us from the forum!
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January 03, 2020, 09:24:39 AM
#18
Same can be said to @marlboroza if they are willing to consider.
There is reference, you know...

Question for you. Pump and dump/ponzi/whatever coin/token/numbers/air is ok?

Why have you created flag against this and this then? What is difference, one has stolen content and team without social media profiles, while X10 doesn't have team, whitepaper, roadmap, algo, wallet, nothing except words "it is 100% safe, invest and you will get 10% daily"!

If I start shilling for projects you flagged, would you tag me as a scam promoter or you will say "you are ok, it is ok to share your opinion and shill for scam which I have flagged"?
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January 03, 2020, 09:18:46 AM
#17
@Vispillio I do hope that you're being sarcastic? What's become of this shithole? You're even claiming that JollyGood is evil, the kind which can only be compared to the accusations that I receive. Have most of you fucking lost your minds? Not many years ago you as a position of any authority were not allowed to call another position of authority e.g. a scammer without very substantial proof for this claim. Here we are today, you defending somebody who does the following:



Sounds like the system has indeed improved a lot in the last 2 years, now it's like fucking Twitter.
😂 In your personal opinion? I mean, just you guys write, and we'il call it "bravo." Are you waiting here for Yobit's signature to thank hundreds of members for saying "scammers"?
Merit is stored in you.
You have the Trust system
Feedback only for you
Then we fuck off.
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January 03, 2020, 09:13:11 AM
#16
wolwoo you are a mother fucker Bustard Merit Abuser. Get lost out of this forum bitch. Merit abuser.

I don't know the OP but I always suggest to write your mind in your own name

Also as for the OP as for the other members, don't go to far with words, they don't support your opinion ......
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January 03, 2020, 08:57:09 AM
#15
@Vispillio I do hope that you're being sarcastic? What's become of this shithole? You're even claiming that JollyGood is evil, the kind which can only be compared to the accusations that I receive. Have most of you fucking lost your minds? Not many years ago you as a position of any authority were not allowed to call another position of authority e.g. a scammer without very substantial proof for this claim. Here we are today, you defending somebody who does the following:



Sounds like the system has indeed improved a lot in the last 2 years, now it's like fucking Twitter.
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January 03, 2020, 08:25:31 AM
#14


TL;DR : the tags you got are wrong use of trust system and you alone should not be targeted for campaign promotion.

Agreed, very insightful as are your other comments regarding the current DT system.

I hope @theymos is noticing that the current trust feedback structure is being used to silence dissenting opinions in the forum like some oppressive political weapon...

Once it's established that a member may be voicing unpopular or provocative opinions like Wolwoo here, it almost inevitably follows that some character assasinators like jollygood will emerge from their holes to paint these "renegades" red based on their non-trust related snowflake personal feelings, and the forum goes back to being an echo chamber of mediocre, lukewarm and extremely safe opinions, instead of the open-minded, intellectual platform most rational participants would presumably desire to have...
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January 03, 2020, 05:41:57 AM
#13
While Wolwoo clearly is reacting in a counterproductive manner, I think he does have a point regarding signature campaigns. I think the language barrier is not helping him get his point across well either. This kind o rating has become one of those things that people looking to manufacture some crime use when looking for a reason to impugn & try to damage the reputations of users in retribution for whatever the butt hurt of the day is. I also find it interesting no one ever goes after the campaign managers of these signature bounty listings if they are so bad. Funny how those rules get applied in such a targeted manner. This is another one of those petty and subjective infractions that should just be left alone rather than allow it be used to amplify disputes and have it be used as a tool of retribution. Of course if you are the kind of people who have nothing better to do than get all up in people's business than you might be forced to find something else to do. The campaigns should be targeted if anything, not the random users.
Administrators provide translation services. Someone is writing in their own language, we can not tell our problem or wrong.

TL;DR : the tags you got are wrong use of trust system and you alone should not be targeted for campaign promotion.
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January 03, 2020, 05:30:20 AM
#12
While Wolwoo clearly is reacting in a counterproductive manner, I think he does have a point regarding signature campaigns. I think the language barrier is not helping him get his point across well either. This kind o rating has become one of those things that people looking to manufacture some crime use when looking for a reason to impugn & try to damage the reputations of users in retribution for whatever the butt hurt of the day is. I also find it interesting no one ever goes after the campaign managers of these signature bounty listings if they are so bad. Funny how those rules get applied in such a targeted manner. This is another one of those petty and subjective infractions that should just be left alone rather than allow it be used to amplify disputes and have it be used as a tool of retribution. Of course if you are the kind of people who have nothing better to do than get all up in people's business than you might be forced to find something else to do. The campaigns should be targeted if anything, not the random users.
Administrators provide translation services. Someone is writing in their own language, we can not tell our problem or wrong.
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January 03, 2020, 05:05:12 AM
#11
While Wolwoo clearly is reacting in a counterproductive manner, I think he does have a point regarding signature campaigns. I think the language barrier is not helping him get his point across well either. This kind of rating has become one of those things that people looking to manufacture some crime use when looking for a reason to impugn & try to damage the reputations of users in retribution for whatever the butt hurt of the day is. I also find it interesting no one ever goes after the campaign managers of these signature bounty listings if they are so bad. Funny how those rules get applied in such a targeted manner. This is another one of those petty and subjective infractions that should just be left alone rather than allow it be used to amplify disputes and have it be used as a tool of retribution. Of course if you are the kind of people who have nothing better to do than get all up in people's business than you might be forced to find something else to do. The campaigns should be targeted if anything, not the random users.
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January 03, 2020, 04:53:10 AM
#10
It's does not mean by little mistake from some members make this forum already death
So many moderators and members here is very active and solved the problem

This forum is like ours real life, you will never find all of friend or people is kind to you. There must be some shit is scammers or bad to you.
So, thats problem is for ours to solve it. The control of this forum is you, me and everyone in bitcointalk.

Let's do the best what we can do for the future of bitcointalk

Also, you can check this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats
Bitcointalk has grow up since the first made, its mean Bitcointalk is not death
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January 03, 2020, 04:27:40 AM
#9
This is a very sad topic. There's no need to take it further and evolve the "heated discussion" into a full-blown all-out war.

Although the system isn't perfect, just use the forum features provided. No matter which side is anyone on, brigading isn't a good thing.

But... that's just my two cents.
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January 03, 2020, 04:15:55 AM
#8
1-I really enjoy the irony of many people who go to Bitcointalk only to say Bitcoin(talk) is dead! If that would be true, why are you here?

2- I called you out on what I consider incorrect use of the Trust system:

3- Feel free to explain why you included dozens of users who don't even have a Trust list and/or never left any feedback:

4- By using reason and arguments, I convinced many DT1 members exclude you, and your DT1 power dropped from +3 (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-12-14_Sat_05.14h/1003533.html) to -6 (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-12-28_Sat_06.13h/1003533.html) within a week.

5- How can you know their judgement belongs on DT2? I know the answer: you don't! The only connection I can think of is that they use the same local board as you do. You may think that's a good enough reason, the rest of the world seems to disagree.

6- While you're at it, maybe you can also explain why you've excluded these users from your Trust list:

7- I can't help but think you did this out of retaliation. Of course, you're completely free to base your Trust list on anything you want. But if you act all emotional and make irrational decisions, don't be surprised if other users distrust your judgement and exclude you from their Trust list. I wouldn't be surprised if you get more exclusions based on this topic.


1- maybe someone wants to do a "cardiac massage" and revive the dead.

2- only "your subjective thoughts"

3-many of you are afraid to deal with people like you

4-it is important that you take the trust yourself and then convince it. Cheesy

5-what could be more natural than distributing trust to people I know locally? Or do you trust people you don't know? there are guys on your list that i don't know

6-I don't have to answer to you, but let me tell you if you're curious. yobit signature attitude and accusations against people .. many of them added to me distrust, according to me "who is more reliable than me"

7-I was so fucked interest of peoples things...

See also another answer: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53435215


Let's get to the topic,
Mr Loycev
Why do you support the bastards who put me and the signatories like me under suspicion?
open the title and ban all yobit signers. doesn't your ass eat?


Or is it easier for me to deal with because I'm the only one?

Can't you and your dog-henchmen scare me?
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January 03, 2020, 04:15:19 AM
#7
Just because you are having a few disagreements with specific members does not mean that the forum is dead because not everyone here  is going to be part of your little wars.

I saw the way you interacted with members during that time you tried to apply to become a merit source and i just knew that it wasn't going to end well for you.

Talking to people as though everyone who disagrees with you is your enemy is not good. What happened to being nice and making friends around here?
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January 03, 2020, 03:45:12 AM
#6
I really enjoy the irony of many people who go to Bitcointalk only to say Bitcoin(talk) is dead! If that would be true, why are you here?

I called you out on what I consider incorrect use of the Trust system:
~wolwoo
1. In one week, this DT1-member added 24 users to his Trust list. Most of those users never left any feedback and don't have a custom Trust list. Therefore, they don't belong on DT2, and the user who adds them doesn't belong on DT1.
2. 4 months ago, this user left positive feedback to 16 users, all without reference link. The only thing they seem to have in common is their nationality, just like the users on his Trust list. That shouldn't be a reason to give them positive feedback and/or DT2-powers.
3. This user leaves retaliation feedback.
By using reason and arguments, I convinced many DT1 members to exclude you, and your DT1 power dropped from +3 to -6 within a week.

Feel free to explain why you included dozens of users who don't even have a Trust list and/or never left any feedback:
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wolwoo Trusts these users' judgement:
1. theymos (Trust: +32 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (56) 6380 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Removed TECSHARE (Trust: +50 / =4 / -2) (DT1! (3) 571 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Removed OgNasty (Trust: +96 / =2 / -5) (DT1! (5) 750 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW peloso (Trust: +0 / =1 / -3) (DT1 (-4) 126 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. 2run (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Deathwing (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (204 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. EFS (Trust: +12 / =1 / -1) (193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. xzone (Trust: neutral) (106 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Removed yussuf89 (Trust: +1 / =2 / -0) (30 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. by rallier (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 296 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. teramit (Trust: neutral) (275 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Removed MorpheWQ (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (110 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Lydian (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 148 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. ziya1453 (Trust: neutral) (76 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. techman (Trust: neutral) (19 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. NEW GrinZ (Trust: awaiting update) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. hiburak (Trust: neutral) (29 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. Removed teeGUMES (Trust: +16 / =2 / -1) (DT1! (8) 444 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. Zz (Trust: neutral) (74 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Danslip (Trust: neutral) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. varanvaran (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. mhanbostanci (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (236 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. muslol67 (Trust: neutral) (91 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. The Young Turk (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. Removed LoyceV (Trust: +25 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (50) 4446 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. Kalemder (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (719 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. cabsav (Trust: neutral) (67 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. DarkStar_ (Trust: +42 / =1 / -0) (1126 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. dannybrown (Trust: neutral) (645 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. BitcoinTurk (Trust: neutral) (309 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. bileq (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. Halmater (Trust: neutral) (130 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. ekiller (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (298 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. Muhtaixa (Trust: neutral) (18 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. tekno (Trust: neutral) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. sammys (Trust: neutral) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. Aceeakell (Trust: neutral) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. Bitcoin-Turkiye (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. ophyrim (Trust: neutral) (137 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. TaliskerDarkStorm (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. onurgozupek (Trust: neutral) (51 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. otto_diesel (Trust: +4 / =1 / -1) (DT1! (2) 417 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. bobita (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 399 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. Vispilio (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 727 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. enfarktus (Trust: neutral) (36 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. Blacknavy (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (803 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. AlyattesLydia (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 452 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. PHI1618 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (5) 858 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. lossnet (Trust: neutral) (167 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. gumusi (Trust: neutral) (39 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. jopen (Trust: neutral) (167 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. vycl87 (Trust: neutral) (333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. El-Cezeri (Trust: neutral) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. gospodin (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (508 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. SkyLords (Trust: neutral) (74 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. trendcoin (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (187 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. anonymous3x (Trust: neutral) (87 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. Hovarda (Trust: neutral) (14 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. cryptobaro (Trust: neutral) (152 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. Bthd (Trust: neutral) (154 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. Cryptorianx (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (121 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. ismend (Trust: neutral) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. NEW forumalacali (Trust: awaiting update) (64 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. kartepe (Trust: neutral) (80 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. kriptobaron (Trust: neutral) (6 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. KursatAelf (Trust: neutral) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. mandown (Trust: neutral) (35 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. Tom Bombadil (Trust: neutral) (110 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. Lachrymose (Trust: neutral) (175 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
How can you know their judgement belongs on DT2? I know the answer: you don't! The only connection I can think of is that they use the same local board as you do. You may think that's a good enough reason, the rest of the world seems to disagree.

While you're at it, maybe you can also explain why you've excluded these users from your Trust list:
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wolwoo Distrusts these users' judgement:
1. ~Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (829 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW ~Lauda (Trust: +34 / =4 / -1) (1233 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. ~Timelord2067 (Trust: +9 / =5 / -1) (DT1 (-11) 308 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. NEW ~2double0 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. NEW ~stompix (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (768 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. ~suchmoon (Trust: +13 / =2 / -0) (3443 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. NEW ~examplens (Trust: +1 / =2 / -0) (97 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. NEW ~tmfp (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 586 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. NEW ~Quickseller (Trust: #  +16 / =6 / -19) (774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. NEW ~LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1382 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. NEW ~psycodad (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (51 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. NEW ~LoyceV (Trust: +25 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (50) 4446 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. NEW ~The Pharmacist (Trust: +27 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (25) 2230 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. NEW ~JaredKaragen (Trust: neutral) (123 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. NEW ~TryNinja (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (1) 1206 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. NEW ~marlboroza (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (1236 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. NEW ~IconFirm (Trust: +3 / =2 / -1) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. NEW ~blurryeyed (Trust: +4 / =2 / -1) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. NEW ~JollyGood (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 242 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. NEW ~Steamtyme (Trust: +6 / =2 / -0) (1439 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. NEW ~o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 3055 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. ~rehberistan (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. NEW ~morvillz7z (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1088 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. NEW ~Coolcryptovator (Trust: +13 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (14) 1042 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. ~DireWolfM14 (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 1135 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
I can't help but think you did this out of retaliation. Of course, you're completely free to base your Trust list on anything you want. But if you act all emotional and make irrational decisions, don't be surprised if other users distrust your judgement and exclude you from their Trust list. I wouldn't be surprised if you get more exclusions based on this topic.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
January 03, 2020, 01:05:45 AM
#5
@JollyGood, I think it is not appropriate use of red trust to tag campaign participants. I agree it looks very shay for someone on DT1 to promote an exchange with an infinite number of complaints never solved. I even understand your intentions which is unabling the signature promotion around. But still it is not a decent reason to tag someone with red trust as an more larger group of users are already engaged in similar signature promotion. Let alone administration handle it as theymos did it last time by banning all the signatures, that could be the best way possible.

Same can be said to @marlboroza if they are willing to consider.

still hundreds of members of the "scammer" You are in the faith. Prohibit it!
I don't understand, do not yobit other signatories to me? They've come and they are two insults.
why do you insult yourself? who are these people, able to insult you (and me).

Can't a legal exchange be promoted?

a man calls hundreds of people "scammers" and gets applause. "scammers people" are not responding. "holy corleone family" has established authority in the forum. There is such a shitty situation.
sr. member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 415
January 03, 2020, 12:53:32 AM
#4
@JollyGood, I think it is not appropriate use of red trust to tag campaign participants. I agree it looks very shay for someone on DT1 to promote an exchange with an infinite number of complaints never solved. I even understand your intentions which is unabling the signature promotion around. But still it is not a decent reason to tag someone with red trust as an more larger group of users are already engaged in similar signature promotion. Let alone administration handle it as theymos did it last time by banning all the signatures, that could be the best way possible.

Same can be said to @marlboroza if they are willing to consider.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
January 03, 2020, 12:51:56 AM
#3
wolwoo you are a mother fucker Bustard Merit Abuser. Get lost out of this forum bitch. Merit abuser.

write your real identity son of a bitch
I risk my 2.5 year account. my only account
You and others like you disgust me.


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good luck 🍀 with the thread.

the truth is always alone, does not need support.

I didn't expect to see a merit or lick team.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
January 03, 2020, 12:50:27 AM
#2
Bitcointalk.org is run as a family, like the Corleone family ... someone has the right to speak, and what they say becomes prominent.

this bastard says he claims about me.

MERIT ABUSERS & FAKE TRUST:
Merit abuse and fake Trust exchanging between small circles of alt-accounts or like-for-like minded bullies/scammers is taking its toll too because several users that clearly pass merit between each and leave positive Trust for each other have gained DT1 and have even sent PMs threatening other users to retract various comments otherwise they will receive negative feedback.

As an example of merit abuse it was mentioned in the following OP by LoyceV about how user wolwoo had "earned" and then abused his DT1 ranking (which has subsequently just recently been revoked because too many DT1 users distrust him probably because of his condescending conduct) and how he had abused that DT1 ranking with retaliatory feedback: Reference topic: Why are these members excluded on trust lists?

In a spectacular turn of events, the user wolwoo requested to be given Merit Source status even though he was outed as being part of a small circle of merit abuse and Trust collusion team: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wolwoos-merit-source-desire-5205906

I hope 2020 is the year this practice of merit abuse circles and fake trust circles stop or the owners/operators of the forum forcibly take action to put a stop to it.

this son of a bitch doesn't limit his unsubstantiated claims to me
and the hundreds of users in the forum covered the "fraud".
dozens of merits on top
admin deletes the messages I wrote.

SCAMMER OWNED BOUNTY CAMPAIGNS:
Recently, towards the last quarter of 2019 unfortunately some scams have tried to use bounty campaigns as indirect bribes just to divide our community with those on one side that actively promoted the scams and those on the opposite side categorically refused to accept money from scammers and never retracted their scam accusations. The sad part was reading posts from members who had previously good reputation now trying to justify their association with scammers but there was no justification ever provided that was ever genuine, they simply became greedy and wanted money.

Let us hope those members that surrendered their morals and values for the sake of pennies from scammers in 2019 never ever allow themselves to stoop so low again because our forum is much stronger when we stand together and it is definitely much weaker when we are divided. I implore those members to wipe the slate clean for 2020 and ask them to stop associating with scammers either directly or indirectly as promoters, signature promoters, affiliates or associates.

We all should also hope 2020 will be the year the forum owners/operators will clamp down on the scammers that are using this forum as a vehicle to carry out their scams and modern day thefts by using Announcement threads and signature campaigns and promotions to spread the lies and propaganda to carry out their scams.



this forum is fucked up Don't delete my messages if you're good people. answer

I don’t you , but the forum is not fucked up.

The forum has fucked up people in it much like regular life.  

There are
 good people
 bad people
indifferent people.
people that shift and you don’t quite know if they are good.

I used to point out scammers selling in the marketplace.
I used to do lots of escrow for lots of people.
I was doxxed on a scammy website called bad buyers.
It was not a true statement. with zero proof.

But my address was released.
my phone was released.
my name was released.

since most of my internet activity is here, most likely a scammer that I caught did it to me.

Result is I don’t escrow and don’t as hard to find scammers.

As I don’t want my loved ones to suffer from internet harassment.

good luck 🍀 with the thread.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1148
January 03, 2020, 12:27:05 AM
#1
Bitcointalk.org is run as a family, like the Corleone family ... someone has the right to speak, and what they say becomes prominent.

this bastard says he claims about me.

MERIT ABUSERS & FAKE TRUST:
Merit abuse and fake Trust exchanging between small circles of alt-accounts or like-for-like minded bullies/scammers is taking its toll too because several users that clearly pass merit between each and leave positive Trust for each other have gained DT1 and have even sent PMs threatening other users to retract various comments otherwise they will receive negative feedback.

As an example of merit abuse it was mentioned in the following OP by LoyceV about how user wolwoo had "earned" and then abused his DT1 ranking (which has subsequently just recently been revoked because too many DT1 users distrust him probably because of his condescending conduct) and how he had abused that DT1 ranking with retaliatory feedback: Reference topic: Why are these members excluded on trust lists?

In a spectacular turn of events, the user wolwoo requested to be given Merit Source status even though he was outed as being part of a small circle of merit abuse and Trust collusion team: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wolwoos-merit-source-desire-5205906

I hope 2020 is the year this practice of merit abuse circles and fake trust circles stop or the owners/operators of the forum forcibly take action to put a stop to it.

this son of a bitch doesn't limit his unsubstantiated claims to me
and the hundreds of users in the forum covered the "fraud".
dozens of merits on top
admin deletes the messages I wrote.

SCAMMER OWNED BOUNTY CAMPAIGNS:
Recently, towards the last quarter of 2019 unfortunately some scams have tried to use bounty campaigns as indirect bribes just to divide our community with those on one side that actively promoted the scams and those on the opposite side categorically refused to accept money from scammers and never retracted their scam accusations. The sad part was reading posts from members who had previously good reputation now trying to justify their association with scammers but there was no justification ever provided that was ever genuine, they simply became greedy and wanted money.

Let us hope those members that surrendered their morals and values for the sake of pennies from scammers in 2019 never ever allow themselves to stoop so low again because our forum is much stronger when we stand together and it is definitely much weaker when we are divided. I implore those members to wipe the slate clean for 2020 and ask them to stop associating with scammers either directly or indirectly as promoters, signature promoters, affiliates or associates.

We all should also hope 2020 will be the year the forum owners/operators will clamp down on the scammers that are using this forum as a vehicle to carry out their scams and modern day thefts by using Announcement threads and signature campaigns and promotions to spread the lies and propaganda to carry out their scams.



this forum is fucked up Don't delete my messages if you're good people. answer
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