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Topic: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes - page 3. (Read 3765 times)

hero member
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@Xenophoto you see it too as something impossible? I guess then he must be like a god to most of you then, this accusation about the support of ponzi schemes is serious enough in my opinion to take responsibility and make things clear.

There are 3 possible options:

#1 Ponzi sites are allowed on this forum, then my red trust is given unfair.
#2 Ponzi sites are not allowed on this forum, my red trust is valid and i take it.
#3 Administrator doesn't care, do what you want.

Ponzi sites aren't allowed in this forum that's why you received a negative trust from cryptodevil. You were saying something about cryptodevil not responding to your messages, now that he responded in this thread, grab the chance and talk to him. Actually though, you still have a lot of negative trusts to get removed.

And for the record, I don't see it as something impossible. There's a possibility that theymos would have a lot of spare time and he check on this thread but that is unlikely to happen. Roll Eyes
hero member
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@Xenophoto you see it too as something impossible? I guess then he must be like a god to most of you then, this accusation about the support of ponzi schemes is serious enough in my opinion to take responsibility and make things clear.

There are 3 possible options:

#1 Ponzi sites are allowed on this forum, then my red trust is given unfair.
#2 Ponzi sites are not allowed on this forum, my red trust is valid and i take it.
#3 Administrator doesn't care, do what you want.
hero member
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So to sum up all the arguments, basically this user thinks theymos will come and post a reply here saying "BCT does not support ponzi websites." and also he wants theymos to remove the investor-based games section.

The investor-based games section was not and is not going to be deleted because doing so will make all the people posting about ponzi scams there find another section to promote their sites. In other words, the investor-based games is there so that people will be able to see people promoting ponzi scams in here except if they go in that section.

Cryptodevil is just doing what he has always been doing. He puts a red trust on those people posting about ponzi sites, warn people about that site, and he puts a red trust on those that are saying the website did pay them or anything that is positive towards the said website.

I suggest that you go talk to Cryptodevil that you're deleting your post and will never post anything about ponzi again. I believe that would work based on Jezreel's story.
i don't care anymore about the red trust given by that funny guy.

As you can see the topic is that bitcointalk supports the illegal ponzi schemes, make your own opinion and let others to do so.
hero member
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So to sum up all the arguments, basically this user thinks theymos will come and post a reply here saying "BCT does not support ponzi websites." and also he wants theymos to remove the investor-based games section.

The investor-based games section was not and is not going to be deleted because doing so will make all the people posting about ponzi scams there find another section to promote their sites. In other words, the investor-based games is there so that people will be able to see people promoting ponzi scams in here except if they go in that section.

Cryptodevil is just doing what he has always been doing. He puts a red trust on those people posting about ponzi sites, warn people about that site, and he puts a red trust on those that are saying the website did pay them or anything that is positive towards the said website.

I suggest that you go talk to Cryptodevil that you're deleting your post and will never post anything about ponzi again. I believe that would work based on Jezreel's story.
legendary
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Thread-puller extraordinaire
i kindly asked him to remove, got no response. But he is none to give such feedbacks. He is not the staff or moderator of this forum.

You *kindly* asked me to remove the rating?

So I can add liar to the description of your untrustworthy behaviour?

You responded in thread by giving an excuse for supporting ponzis which does not hold up to scrutiny, namely, that EVERYONE knows how ponzis work and that it is 'like gambling'. Neither of which are true statements. Ten minutes later you posted that I should be banned from the forum.

being involved in ponzi game it not a reason to give red trust, it's nothing illegal and everyone involved knows how ponzi schemes works, it's like gambling so please remove your feedback. thanks!
yeah this cryptodevil user has some issues, look at the list of feedbacks https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptodevil-224980 he is giving to other people, acting like he is some kind of cop, should be banned for life from this forum.

it's nothing illegal
This depends on the jurisdiction where you live, but it may well be.

and everyone involved knows how ponzi schemes works
That's a lie and you know it.

it's like gambling
This is somewhat true, though gambling sites are usually a lot more transparent than Ponzi schemes in how they operate. Therefore, it isn't a very good comparison.

should be banned for life from this forum.
For trying to protect people from scams? No. It tends to only be those trying to be dishonest and push said schemes to unsuspecting users that say things like this.
i won't argue with you or discuss ponzi schemes. The fact is that this game has very transparent rules about affiliate commissions, it's very basic game where you need only 2 referrals to profit, so unless the admin doesn't pay this game is legit. Based on that i'm going to leave negative feedback to cryptodevil "cop" guy for false accusations based on no facts without doing proper research. Someone must stop this scam obsessed individual, so if you are honest and neutral, you must admit that cryptodevil made a huge mistake.

"Someone must stop this scam obsessed individual" - Stated as though it means something really profound. Pro-tip: It doesn't.

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The Boy Who Shattered Time
Did you read this? Just understand bro, they not ignoring it.

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
yeah i've read this many times, you don't understand the context here. I'm ok with that the ponzis are allowed here until someone can't get red trust because of promoting them. I got red trust because i made one post in that section which promoted the ponzi website, if ponzis are allowed there i demanded to delete the red trust by forum staff, because the red trust was given by some guy self-nominated to ponzi policeman and i was doing nothing against the forum rules. If it was against the rules my post just would have been deleted like the ref link posts, those are being deleted almost immediately.


Did you PM cryptodevil? Previously I've got a red trust from cryptodevil and he said I'm supporting Ponzi. I talk to him and he said
" Every single one of your posts is about investing in a ponzi or buying your own ponzi script.

Either delete all of them and do not post in any more scam-related threads and I will remove the rating, or not.

It is your choice." I deleted all of my post  Angry and cryptodevil remove the red trust. Bro try to talk him.
-I never supporting Ponzis Angry
i kindly asked him to remove, got no response. But he is none to give such feedbacks. He is not the staff or moderator of this forum.
I think cryptodevil has no care about messages now.  Angry
hero member
Activity: 909
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Did you read this? Just understand bro, they not ignoring it.

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
yeah i've read this many times, you don't understand the context here. I'm ok with that the ponzis are allowed here until someone can't get red trust because of promoting them. I got red trust because i made one post in that section which promoted the ponzi website, if ponzis are allowed there i demanded to delete the red trust by forum staff, because the red trust was given by some guy self-nominated to ponzi policeman and i was doing nothing against the forum rules. If it was against the rules my post just would have been deleted like the ref link posts, those are being deleted almost immediately.


Did you PM cryptodevil? Previously I've got a red trust from cryptodevil and he said I'm supporting Ponzi. I talk to him and he said
" Every single one of your posts is about investing in a ponzi or buying your own ponzi script.

Either delete all of them and do not post in any more scam-related threads and I will remove the rating, or not.

It is your choice." I deleted all of my post  Angry and cryptodevil remove the red trust. Bro try to talk him.
-I never supporting Ponzis Angry
i kindly asked him to remove, got no response. But he is none to give such feedbacks. He is not the staff or moderator of this forum.
hero member
Activity: 909
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@Lauda

you accused me of being signature spammer out of nowhere, while you yourself have the jetwin signature which makes you hypocryte and prejudging person, plus it was totally off-topic and any solution to my request.
That's why i gave you feedback, it is neutral because i'm not going to judge you it's your shit.

Based on your 'logic' i'm saying that bitcointalk supports and spreads the illegal ponzi schemes allowing them to go to wide masses.
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The Boy Who Shattered Time
Did you read this? Just understand bro, they not ignoring it.

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
yeah i've read this many times, you don't understand the context here. I'm ok with that the ponzis are allowed here until someone can't get red trust because of promoting them. I got red trust because i made one post in that section which promoted the ponzi website, if ponzis are allowed there i demanded to delete the red trust by forum staff, because the red trust was given by some guy self-nominated to ponzi policeman and i was doing nothing against the forum rules. If it was against the rules my post just would have been deleted like the ref link posts, those are being deleted almost immediately.


Did you PM cryptodevil? Previously I've got a red trust from cryptodevil and he said I'm supporting Ponzi. I talk to him and he said
" Every single one of your posts is about investing in a ponzi or buying your own ponzi script.

Either delete all of them and do not post in any more scam-related threads and I will remove the rating, or not.

It is your choice." I deleted all of my post  Angry and cryptodevil remove the red trust. Bro try to talk him.
-I never supporting Ponzis Angry
hero member
Activity: 909
Merit: 506
Did you read this? Just understand bro, they not ignoring it.

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
yeah i've read this many times, you don't understand the context here. I'm ok with that the ponzis are allowed here until someone can't get red trust because of promoting them. I got red trust because i made one post in that section which promoted the ponzi website, if ponzis are allowed there i demanded to delete the red trust by forum staff, because the red trust was given by some guy self-nominated to ponzi policeman and i was doing nothing against the forum rules. If it was against the rules my post just would have been deleted like the ref link posts, those are being deleted almost immediately.

hero member
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It was given by some silly guy acting here like police and abusing the trust system.
He gave me red trust for one post in investor-based thread. I did not scam anyone!
He hasn't abused anything and red trust is not necessarily given out for only scamming.
ok, i see now

For example hackforums has it's own rules and i don't think people get red trust for promoting ponzi sites there  Wink see the difference?
I couldn't care less about the rules of that forum. The trust ratings here are not moderated and you should have known this by now.
i see, that's why i gave up on it

So firstly i would like to know the official statement from the forum administrator that ponzi websites are not allowed here, then i wouldn't say anything more on this topic.
I also want the forum administration to donate $1 Million to my BTC Address. Grin
- asking the admininstrator of the forum simple question if ponzis are supported is something impossible? As impossible that you are comparing it to asking them for $1 million?


Comedy aside, you're appealing to emotion, and making irrational demands to complex problems. Making such a change is not as easy as it might seem in your world.
please explain in which part i appeal to emotion and which demands of me are irrational other then the moderation of default trust which i understand now that it's not common here.
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The Boy Who Shattered Time
Did you read this? Just understand bro, they not ignoring it.

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.
legendary
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Terminated.
It was given by some silly guy acting here like police and abusing the trust system.
He gave me red trust for one post in investor-based thread. I did not scam anyone!
He hasn't abused anything and red trust is not necessarily given out for only scamming.

For example hackforums has it's own rules and i don't think people get red trust for promoting ponzi sites there  Wink see the difference?
I couldn't care less about the rules of that forum. The trust ratings here are not moderated and you should have known this by now.

So firstly i would like to know the official statement from the forum administrator that ponzi websites are not allowed here, then i wouldn't say anything more on this topic.
I also want the forum administration to donate $1 Million to my BTC Address. Grin

Comedy aside, you're appealing to emotion, and making irrational demands to complex problems. Making such a change is not as easy as it might seem in your world.
hero member
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OK guys i give up on deleting my neg trust because it's all confusing here on bitcointalk, soon people will be afraid to even make a post because they will probably get red trust for spammning.

but my conclusion on this is that: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes

that'sthe reason of this misunderstanding.

Your reason / logic is retarded.

If a government built fucking high security prisons to keep highly dangerous criminals to segregate them from other minor offenders and the public, using your logic, you are claiming that the government supports highly dangerous criminals and the things they do?

If a murder happens to a stranger in a building u rent out, you are an accomplice?

It isn't a misunderstanding at all. The subforum was made to wall off all potential scams. If something is gonna happen regardless of what you do, and you can do something, it makes perfect sense to keep the anomaly isolated. Removing the subforum (thrash bin), would simply result in trash everywhere else.

If I remembered correctly your initial argument was that cryptodevil was giving false trust, you requested to remove him and your neg not because you wanted to join in sig campaigns.  After losing the argument, you change your reasons and the whole point of the meta thread to you simply wanting to join sig campaign again and that bct endorses ponzis?

Just because reddit have hidden private subreddits with dubious uses doesn't mean they are endorsed. Your logic is that of a 1 year old. Your arguments are juvenile at best. Try harder and get better evidences and proof of your shitty reasons instead of trying to push your flawed logic to everyone else.

Edit: Nope you have NOT moved on, if you had you would have deleted /archive or requested to have it deleted. You are acting like a spoilt brat who requests for orange juice  just after dropping the milk you took from your sibling a second ago
holy shh..what is your problem?

i wanted my red trust deleted because i believe it was not fairly given.
It was given by some silly guy acting here like police and abusing the trust system.
He gave me red trust for one post in investor-based thread.
I did not scam anyone!

We are on a forum, community of people with same interest, every forum has it own rules right?

For example hackforums has it's own rules and i don't think people get red trust for promoting ponzi sites there  Wink see the difference?

So firstly i would like to know the official statement from the forum administrator that ponzi websites are not allowed here, then i wouldn't say anything more on this topic.

But i guess there is none of such statement that ponzi sites are forbidden, if it was i believe people would not get only red trust but direct bans or delete.

hold on your real life stories which are not related to this topic, keep your philosophy in your head please.

I respect the rules so i don't have problem to admit my mistake, so it's not about moving on. If rules were clear then there would not be such worthless discussion and many misunderstandings.


hero member
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Becoming legend, but I took merit to the knee :(
OK guys i give up on deleting my neg trust because it's all confusing here on bitcointalk, soon people will be afraid to even make a post because they will probably get red trust for spammning.

but my conclusion on this is that: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes

that'sthe reason of this misunderstanding.

Your reason / logic is retarded.

If a government built fucking high security prisons to keep highly dangerous criminals to segregate them from other minor offenders and the public, using your logic, you are claiming that the government supports highly dangerous criminals and the things they do?

If a murder happens to a stranger in a building u rent out, you are an accomplice?

It isn't a misunderstanding at all. The subforum was made to wall off all potential scams. If something is gonna happen regardless of what you do, and you can do something, it makes perfect sense to keep the anomaly isolated. Removing the subforum (thrash bin), would simply result in trash everywhere else.

If I remembered correctly your initial argument was that cryptodevil was giving false trust, you requested to remove him and your neg not because you wanted to join in sig campaigns.  After losing the argument, you change your reasons and the whole point of the meta thread to you simply wanting to join sig campaign again and that bct endorses ponzis?

Just because reddit have hidden private subreddits with dubious uses doesn't mean they are endorsed. Your logic is that of a 1 year old. Your arguments are juvenile at best. Try harder and get better evidences and proof of your shitty reasons instead of trying to push your flawed logic to everyone else.

Edit: Nope you have NOT moved on, if you had you would have deleted /archive or requested to have it deleted. You are acting like a spoilt brat who requests for orange juice  just after dropping the milk you took from your sibling a second ago
hero member
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"Interesting" turn of events. You've completely diverted the thread from the original and futile attempt at getting someone removed from DT to attacking the forum itself? Of course, the forum supports every single thing that happens on the forum. This is based on very sound logic Roll Eyes

yes, because this got me into this situation. I learned that it's worthless to try to get the feedback deleted so i'm moving on.
hero member
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but my conclusion on this is that: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes
that'sthe reason of this misunderstanding.
You're wrong there, just because something isn't exactly banned doesn't mean it's being supported by the forum.
We could display all the reasons here once again, but that has been done over and over already, so there's little to no sense in doing so.
Also, I fear you might not even care for it.
true i don't care, i only wanted my red trust deleted, but that's impossible no matter what my arguments or evidence are. There are so many points of view on this because of bad management of forum. If i would not want to have a ponzi links and keywords on my forum i would just delete them without warning. So as long as these games even have their own place on this forum, my statement is valid: bitcointalk.org supports the illegal ponzi schemes.

and this even makes my red trust irrelevant and indeed i'm not doing anything wrong according to bitcointalk policy.

isn't it a paradox or irony Huh


legendary
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Terminated.
"Interesting" turn of events. You've completely diverted the thread from the original and futile attempt at getting someone removed from DT to attacking the forum itself? Of course, the forum supports every single thing that happens on the forum. This is based on very sound logic Roll Eyes

You're wrong there, just because something isn't exactly banned doesn't mean it's being supported by the forum.
If someone comes to your backyard and does something bad, you were in support of his actions the whole time. Don't deny it!
copper member
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Goodbye, Z.
but my conclusion on this is that: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes
that'sthe reason of this misunderstanding.
You're wrong there, just because something isn't exactly banned doesn't mean it's being supported by the forum.
We could display all the reasons here once again, but that has been done over and over already, so there's little to no sense in doing so.
Also, I fear you might not even care for it.
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