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Topic: BitDice Robbed Investors? CSNO lost 80% value - page 3. (Read 3134 times)

legendary
Activity: 2018
Merit: 1108
I have been watching this thread for some time, curious to see the outcome as the case seems to be so large and yet unresolved and not talked about.

Nobody has abandoned the project.

And yet, mid 2023 shows an abandoned project with an expired ssl certificate.
Early 2020 and this is mid 2023, three years is a long time.

At the time of the post you quoted, the project was not abandoned. The reason I defended the project is that, as everyone who was present at the time, recall the site even released a new version, added games etc. Things that could have improved the site. What was not clear, however, was that they had no intention of making investors whole. I did not know this when I defended them.
I have no doubt about it. It's a logical explanation.

BoXXoB, is just a campaign manager and there are no way for a campaign manager to know what goes in the management. A management can keep their employees in dark or spread misinformation to them.

Exactly. I handled customer support and managed Bitcointalk campaigns. There is no reason for management to keep me in the loop if they were planning something like this.

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You must surely have at least an idea of where the money went?

I do not and I do not know the identities of the management. Even the person who originally hired me literally disappeared. I am also pretty sure the new management used made-up names. You're making quite big assumptions by saying I "surely" have an idea about that.

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It's hard to believe that he has no idea about how the ICO raise was spent, what decisions the business owner was making, and so on.

When the site was still under management of Alex, I believe there was a genuine idea to improve the site. What happened that caused them to neglect investors? I do not now. I think ICO money was initially planned to be spent to improve the site. Or atleast they made it seem like that. The release of new versions of the site, new games being added etc. speak for that. That's quite literally all I know. Why would they have kept me informed how they spend the money? I would have suspected something if they had given me more details.

EDIT: Consider for a moment the fact that I was simply an employee. Thus, I do not think your allegations and assumptions make a whole lot of sense.

EDIT2: Regarding business decisions, the same lies about improving the site, quarterly reports making a comeback "soon" etc. were told to me same as everyone else.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1036
6.25 ---> 3.125
At the time of the post you quoted, the project was not abandoned. The reason I defended the project is that, as everyone who was present at the time, recall the site even released a new version, added games etc. Things that could have improved the site. What was not clear, however, was that they had no intention of making investors whole. I did not know this when I defended them.
I have no doubt about it. It's a logical explanation.

BoXXoB, is just a campaign manager and there are no way for a campaign manager to know what goes in the management. A management can keep their employees in dark or spread misinformation to them.

Okay. I can partially empathize with that if I look over some of my thoughts. I don't think it's fair on victims to dismiss with this in mind though, because:


It is sad what happened but I will not let my association with BitDice tarnish my reputation. After I left BitDice at February 2022 things went even worse and I heard from players that in my absence support took a real dive in quality and eventually this year they went completely down apparently scamming players also. The BitDice I joined way back was not the BitDice it turned into.

Thank you for reading.

EDIT: grammar

BoXXoB was seemingly involved for a long time. It's hard to believe that he has no idea about how the ICO raise was spent, what decisions the business owner was making, and so on. It's also hard to believe that there BoXXoB is with-holding information that might implicate him or his employer(s).

If people want to just accept that BoXXoB worked with this company and believe that he has no information, then I suppose that's that. I am only here as someone who has their eyebrows raised at the fact that so much money has been stolen, and that no one has come here to ask questions or investigate. It seems very odd for a scam that seems to amount to over $100,000,000 in todays value.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 2645
Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
I have been watching this thread for some time, curious to see the outcome as the case seems to be so large and yet unresolved and not talked about.

Nobody has abandoned the project.

And yet, mid 2023 shows an abandoned project with an expired ssl certificate.
Early 2020 and this is mid 2023, three years is a long time.

At the time of the post you quoted, the project was not abandoned. The reason I defended the project is that, as everyone who was present at the time, recall the site even released a new version, added games etc. Things that could have improved the site. What was not clear, however, was that they had no intention of making investors whole. I did not know this when I defended them.
I have no doubt about it. It's a logical explanation.

BoXXoB, is just a campaign manager and there are no way for a campaign manager to know what goes in the management. A management can keep their employees in dark or spread misinformation to them.

That's very hard to believe.
Don't you think you are over reacting now?
Is this going to be another thread where forum member x is going to accuse for something unpopular and a group of forum police is going to start asking whatever they have in mind to harass the accused member? You people are pathetic mole in the community.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1036
6.25 ---> 3.125
I have been watching this thread for some time, curious to see the outcome as the case seems to be so large and yet unresolved and not talked about.

Nobody has abandoned the project.

And yet, mid 2023 shows an abandoned project with an expired ssl certificate.

The reason for my post comes as BoXXoB is offering campaign management services.

I'm not sure how many users believe that BoXXoB is innocent in this matter, and I am personally not looking to get further involved other than highlighting this arise of offering campaign services, though if people who are victim in this case believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question due to the BitDice ICO, then I recommend looking at this flag by joksim299.

I've supported it only because I believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question until there is resolution on his involvement in this matter.

I will only respond to this by saying that the same lies that BitDice told investors, they told the same to the support staff (me).

At the time of the post you quoted, the project was not abandoned. The reason I defended the project is that, as everyone who was present at the time, recall the site even released a new version, added games etc. Things that could have improved the site. What was not clear, however, was that they had no intention of making investors whole. I did not know this when I defended them.

I will put more emphasis on the point that they lied to me aswell.

So you worked with the business since very early on, and yet you have no information for the victims about where the owner has gone, what happened or caused failure, or anything at all that might help investors understand what happened or how to get their money back/who to ask more questions to? That's very hard to believe. I would think that is very lucky if you are able to keep your reputation untarnished with just two posts with apologies that alleviate yourself from involvement completely and do not have any explanation as to what happened with all of the money. With this in mind I ask a question...

How was all of the ICO proceeds spent when you were present with BitDice? You must surely have at least an idea of where the money went?
legendary
Activity: 2018
Merit: 1108
I have been watching this thread for some time, curious to see the outcome as the case seems to be so large and yet unresolved and not talked about.

Nobody has abandoned the project.

And yet, mid 2023 shows an abandoned project with an expired ssl certificate.

The reason for my post comes as BoXXoB is offering campaign management services.

I'm not sure how many users believe that BoXXoB is innocent in this matter, and I am personally not looking to get further involved other than highlighting this arise of offering campaign services, though if people who are victim in this case believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question due to the BitDice ICO, then I recommend looking at this flag by joksim299.

I've supported it only because I believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question until there is resolution on his involvement in this matter.

I will only respond to this by saying that the same lies that BitDice told investors, they told the same to the support staff (me).

At the time of the post you quoted, the project was not abandoned. The reason I defended the project is that, as everyone who was present at the time, recall the site even released a new version, added games etc. Things that could have improved the site. What was not clear, however, was that they had no intention of making investors whole. I did not know this when I defended them.

I will put more emphasis on the point that they lied to me aswell.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1036
6.25 ---> 3.125
I have been watching this thread for some time, curious to see the outcome as the case seems to be so large and yet unresolved and not talked about.

Nobody has abandoned the project.

And yet, mid 2023 shows an abandoned project with an expired ssl certificate.

The reason for my post comes as BoXXoB is offering campaign management services.

I'm not sure how many users believe that BoXXoB is innocent in this matter, and I am personally not looking to get further involved other than highlighting this arise of offering campaign services, though if people who are victim in this case believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question due to the BitDice ICO, then I recommend looking at this flag by joksim299.

I've supported it only because I believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question until there is resolution on his involvement in this matter.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 2645
Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
Can you access Bitdice.me?
This is a strange feeling. I always thought BitDice are still running. But checking the .com and .me seems like they are gone. I don't see many discussions on the topic about it too. All I understand is they has some tokens to share dividends at the end the market price dropped. Did I get it correct? But the following experience was not good at all.
After attempting many contacts to BitDice, I'm going to leave my frustration on the poorly managed team.

  • I contacted various mails to BitDice I could find => no response
  • Wrote in BitDice Chat => was ghosted by the support team
  • Commented on Twitter => no reply

BitDice, in particular, Alex, who gave the management to someone else: Your management is worse!

Why is that? In the past months, I've experienced that the management simply quit and handed over their tasks to people who may be outsourced.
Just take a look when dogedice.me was last logged in (September 2021). That same applies to the support here on Bitcointalk.

In the meantime, the following things happened on BitDice:
  • Support consists of outsourced people (from countries whose salary is below the avg.)
  • Raffles, raffles and more raffles

At all, this is not bad. It's all about customer-centric focus. But the thing is that thousands of dollars may be burnt to customers/players with money out of investors bankroll. The volume of BitDice betting is very low. How else can BitDice afford multiple raffles in a month worth $100 000 and $50 000?
My assumption is that the bankroll will be drained as long as there are no funds left just to say goodbye to players and investors.

Secondly, why must a casino like BitDice outsource people from countries where the salaries are below average? For multiple years BitDice hasn't done any development on their website. Just promised things as usual until December 2021. We know that Bitcoin and in particular other cryptocurrencies like Dogecoin has risen to new ATH, so also BitDice portfolio balance. Take a look at the last financial report spreadsheet (https://miro.medium.com/max/2400/1*kjxs2BqDnOkvq0QzfxJR6A.png). If we consider today's prices, it would be significantly higher (https://prnt.sc/2304xqk). This assumption is only valid if no significant transfers have been made.

Still, why there is a need to outsource people? What about the office of BitDice? Don't they hold responsibility too?

My assumption here is that BitDice lost a significant amount due to reasons we don't know. What else justifies the poorly managed team and a company structure full of outsourced people.

And, how much are investors worth right now? Correct, 75 Satoshi per token. Peanuts compared to what has been raffled to players.


My appeal: Pay your attention to us and drop a post.
Quoted.

I will be watching the topic.
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Can you access Bitdice.me?
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
It seems that they even trick players and delaying withdrawals for long periods.
legendary
Activity: 1059
Merit: 1020
After attempting many contacts to BitDice, I'm going to leave my frustration on the poorly managed team.

  • I contacted various mails to BitDice I could find => no response
  • Wrote in BitDice Chat => was ghosted by the support team
  • Commented on Twitter => no reply

BitDice, in particular, Alex, who gave the management to someone else: Your management is worse!

Why is that? In the past months, I've experienced that the management simply quit and handed over their tasks to people who may be outsourced.
Just take a look when dogedice.me was last logged in (September 2021). That same applies to the support here on Bitcointalk.

In the meantime, the following things happened on BitDice:
  • Support consists of outsourced people (from countries whose salary is below the avg.)
  • Raffles, raffles and more raffles

At all, this is not bad. It's all about customer-centric focus. But the thing is that thousands of dollars may be burnt to customers/players with money out of investors bankroll. The volume of BitDice betting is very low. How else can BitDice afford multiple raffles in a month worth $100 000 and $50 000?
My assumption is that the bankroll will be drained as long as there are no funds left just to say goodbye to players and investors.

Secondly, why must a casino like BitDice outsource people from countries where the salaries are below average? For multiple years BitDice hasn't done any development on their website. Just promised things as usual until December 2021. We know that Bitcoin and in particular other cryptocurrencies like Dogecoin has risen to new ATH, so also BitDice portfolio balance. Take a look at the last financial report spreadsheet (https://miro.medium.com/max/2400/1*kjxs2BqDnOkvq0QzfxJR6A.png). If we consider today's prices, it would be significantly higher (https://prnt.sc/2304xqk). This assumption is only valid if no significant transfers have been made.

Still, why there is a need to outsource people? What about the office of BitDice? Don't they hold responsibility too?

My assumption here is that BitDice lost a significant amount due to reasons we don't know. What else justifies the poorly managed team and a company structure full of outsourced people.

And, how much are investors worth right now? Correct, 75 Satoshi per token. Peanuts compared to what has been raffled to players.


My appeal: Pay your attention to us and drop a post.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
CSNO for BTC is now reduced to 100 satoshi per token

Wtf is this shite?

Edit: Latest dividends received were on Aug-05-2019 - no news ever since, but I guess that if I sell my CSNO tokens now, I will also give up any chance to ever see anything that they owe me for the last 2 years?

75 satoshis now, no dividends
They’re just confirming that they’re fucking their investors
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Another investor scammed here. I just created this account to let people know that they are completely ignoring us for so long.

They just don't want to comment on anything.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Another investor scammed here. I just created this account to let people know that they are completely ignoring us for so long.
member
Activity: 105
Merit: 11
 CSNO for BTC is now reduced to 100 satoshi per token

Wtf is this shite?

Edit: Latest dividends received were on Aug-05-2019 - no news ever since, but I guess that if I sell my CSNO tokens now, I will also give up any chance to ever see anything that they owe me for the last 2 years?
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
I had CSNO token in my Ethereum wallet, paid $20 to transferred them to the CSNO address of my bitdice account.   
I had to create a new one, the old one was unknown. 
Then, I clicked on "Sell CSNO Tokens" on the very bottom of the bitdice website, and exchanged my CSNO for BTC at 150 satoshi per token.
Next, I withdraw the BTC to my Bitcoin wallet. A few hours later, I had the BTC in my wallet.
A bit less than I invested originally but still better than a total loss as I feared the past years Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
dividends ain't being paid?

Dividends have not been paid since 2019.

There has been no financial statements or communication with investors since 27 February 2020.

https://medium.com/@BitDice

Delisted everywhere and they give no shits:  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitdice/

Complete rugpull.  Don't defend them.  They stole all the money.

They have no intention to publish reports.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
dividends ain't being paid?

Dividends have not been paid since 2019.

There has been no financial statements or communication with investors since 27 February 2020.

https://medium.com/@BitDice

Delisted everywhere and they give no shits:  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitdice/

Complete rugpull.  Don't defend them.  They stole all the money.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1047
dividends ain't being paid?
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
Someone got plenty of free time, how is that so?  It's a legit site... However i must admit seems there's a fetish to freeze funds. But you bastards were against their rules.

It is a legit site, abide by the rules next time.

However this constant FUD is a joke too.

They also have a fetish for stealing all the ICO funds.  They fucked every single investor.  CSNO no longer trades anywhere, and they haven’t communicated with investors since February 27, 2020, when they stopped paying dividends.

They are legit criminals.  You defend scumbags.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1047
Someone got plenty of free time, how is that so?  It's a legit site... However i must admit seems there's a fetish to freeze funds. But you bastards were against their rules.

It is a legit site, abide by the rules next time.

However this constant FUD is a joke too.
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