BitForce SC - release notes - page 8.

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Quote from: BCbitcoin on June 22, 2012, 02:33:58 PM

Quote from: ice_chill on June 22, 2012, 02:29:27 PM

Does this mean we can reserve the credit up to March 1st, and then ship to you once the SC is ready, or the old product has to reach your office by March 1st ?

Their faq says you don't have to send it in until your sc is ready to ship.

Which means you want to overnight your return to them so they get it ASAP so you can get yours shipped to you.

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Let's say I place an order for some ASIC singles when you start taking pre-orders.

When they are ready to ship can I drive my FPGA singles up there and get the ASIC's?

I plan on using a 1000W inverter in my truck and my verizon wireless internet connection with a hp thin client to start mining in the fucking parking lot.

I will mine all the way home to Dallas.

I have made it from Dallas to KC in under 5 hours averaging 115mph on the Turnpike.

I will drive slower on the way home since I will already be mining. Cheesy

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Quote from: MrTeal on June 22, 2012, 02:48:04 PM

When will preorders start, and which product lines are expected to ship first?

+1

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If the 3.5 Ghash unit warms coffee, could the SC Single make Belgian waffles?

I think it's a great trade-in policy. Not many places would give you 100% on an item that's been used 24/7 for over eight months.

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When will preorders start, and which product lines are expected to ship first?

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Why don’t you guys mine?

This is a popular question. The answer is pretty simple. Hardware is the focus of our passion. We’re hardware designers. That’s our skill set and doing that makes us happy.

Trying hard not to troll because I like your trade-in program and I believe cheap ASIC diversification will boost the strength of the network, but seriously.

BCbitcoin

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Quote from: ice_chill on June 22, 2012, 02:29:27 PM

Does this mean we can reserve the credit up to March 1st, and then ship to you once the SC is ready, or the old product has to reach your office by March 1st ?

Their faq says you don't have to send it in until your sc is ready to ship.

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BFL.

A huge thanks from one of your critics.

From this I have a few comments and questions I hope you will consider answering.

1) Does the trade-in offer still apply to product ordered after the
announcement?

If so, is it a concern that customers may flood you with orders now only to send them back a few months later?
From a business perspective, it only makes sense to phase out the old product starting now and when it's gone it's gone. Are you willing to confirm?

2) Will your entire SC product line be available roughly at the same time? Or will it be staggered?

3) If you are scheduling shipment for October, when will you start taking orders?

4) Every greedy bastard here including myself wants the advantage over the next guy in receiving the product first.
Can you address this? Is it first order first serve policy as usual? Will you give an advanced notice before taking orders?
This sure puts you in an interesting predicament.

Suggestion: If you drafted a policy now that allowed everyone to benefit somewhat simultaneously, it would sure win over more support in the community.
We are a little fractured in community due to you guys. I hope you step up as a leader and do what you can so it is positive for all.

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Quote from: BFL on June 22, 2012, 01:56:24 PM

Quote from: crazyates on June 22, 2012, 01:52:16 PM

Quote from: Cablez on June 22, 2012, 01:46:09 PM

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins? Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

Fair enough, we'll extend that to March 1st.

Thanks for your feedback.

This shocked me too as I have a Mini-Rig on order, but March is OK.

Does this mean we can reserve the credit up to March 1st, and then ship to you once the SC is ready, or the old product has to reach your office by March 1st ?

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Quote from: SysRun on June 22, 2012, 02:23:43 PM

So how do I get my order in as early as possible now? Tongue

It's about time, if I don't do it somebody else will.

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Thanks for the clarification. I think some of us who have lost faith along the way now understand a bit more about your process.

So how do I get my order in as early as possible now? Tongue

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When are the confirmations for orders placed a month ago going out? I would trying emailing, but you don't return them.

When are the orders placed a month ago going to be shipped? You say you can rapidly catch up, but Oct isn't that far away and each week you don't ship only costs me more money.

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Quote from: crazyates on June 22, 2012, 01:42:34 PM

Quote from: DILLIGAF on June 22, 2012, 01:39:15 PM

Quote from: BFL on June 22, 2012, 01:29:05 PM

We've written a response to many of the questions presented to us regarding the BitForce SC product line. I trust it will at least clarify what can be expected from our company as regards to overall policy relative to how it might affect the hashing community.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/

Regards,
BFL

You left out the most important question needing to be answered how will the hashing power be deployed? As if the th/s boxes go out the door first in quantity then there is absolutely no sense in buying any of your other products.

I'm guessing the majority of their orders will be jalapenos or singles, so these will be the ones shipped first.

Guessing is no good and if you guess wrong your fucked. There would be you would think at least as many th/s boxes going out the door as mini-rigs at the least, so people need to know how the deployment is going to go so they can at least try to be making their money back.

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Quote from: BFL on June 22, 2012, 01:56:24 PM

Quote from: crazyates on June 22, 2012, 01:52:16 PM

Quote from: Cablez on June 22, 2012, 01:46:09 PM

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins? Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

Fair enough, we'll extend that to March 1st.

Thanks for your feedback.

BFL

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Quote from: crazyates on June 22, 2012, 01:52:16 PM

Quote from: Cablez on June 22, 2012, 01:46:09 PM

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins? Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

Fair enough, we'll extend that to March 1st.

Thanks for your feedback.

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Quote from: Cablez on June 22, 2012, 01:46:09 PM

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins? Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

That's the only part that I'm concerned about. That's an awfully short time for trade ins...

Serge

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i would like to preorder few coffee warmers. thx

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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...

I think this is very telling...

"How long will you continue to accept trade ins? Our trade in offer expires January 1, 2013."

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Quote from: DILLIGAF on June 22, 2012, 01:39:15 PM

Quote from: BFL on June 22, 2012, 01:29:05 PM

We've written a response to many of the questions presented to us regarding the BitForce SC product line. I trust it will at least clarify what can be expected from our company as regards to overall policy relative to how it might affect the hashing community.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/

Regards,
BFL

You left out the most important question needing to be answered how will the hashing power be deployed? As if the th/s boxes go out the door first in quantity then there is absolutely no sense in buying any of your other products.

I'm guessing the majority of their orders will be jalapenos or singles, so these will be the ones shipped first.

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Quote from: byte1 on June 22, 2012, 01:38:13 PM

Thanks for the clarification.

BFL:
What if a customer places an order for a MiniRig, and cannot come up with the extra 15K to upgrade to an SC? So is he screwed with older hardware and increasing difficulty?

He sells his MR for ~15k to someone else who CAN use it as a trade in, and then he spends that money to buy 12 SC Singles (for 480GH/s).

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