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Topic: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading - page 37. (Read 129490 times)

legendary
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Lead Blockchain Developer
Btcinvest and addiction volumes look wrong?

Addiction 24 hr vol right now: 7,655 (฿4091.28694106)

That means they're trading on average at ~0.53?  Seems like something going on.  Options maybe somehow?

sr. member
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Btcinvest and addiction volumes look wrong?
member
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What about the different time zones for the same trades on the graph and trade history with 8 hours difference? On nearly every other service its standard today for the user to have a setting for his own time zone...
sr. member
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I finally sucked up my loss and switched to BTCT.  So glad to be out of BF
hero member
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Some really strange things in your 24hr/48hr stars are going on Huh
sr. member
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what exactly would a "seize and desist" entail, as far as our shares go? 
sr. member
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Ukyo, I am dying to use the api and develop tools utilizing it. Any schedule for the release yet? Could I get a beta account to at least familiarize myself with the API so I could start coding? Thanks you.
The API was "coming soon" back in may. I guess we won't be seeing it anytime soon.
hero member
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Unlimited Free Crypto
Ukyo, I am dying to use the api and develop tools utilizing it. Any schedule for the release yet? Could I get a beta account to at least familiarize myself with the API so I could start coding? Thanks you.
sr. member
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Can you answer a question for me Ukyo?

When someone buys an asset on bitfunder, are they buying an actual share in the company that issued them, or are they buying an asset from you, thus have no direct connection to the issuer?

I.e. the company share offering is to bitfunder only, and bitfunder users buy assets from you which are only applicable to Bitfunder. So bitfunder users are not -actual- shareholders, correct?

The issuing company must still be in a position to issue a private offering to you of course, hence the US stuff.
sr. member
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I want to change my email address, but cant seem to find the option.
legendary
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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Any news on the rewritten reinvest feature?
sr. member
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Is there some problem with Bitfunder ? It's hardly to access the website this week,often shows "This website can  not be displayed; error code :ERR_TIMED_OUT". Sad

Really?

What area are you in geographically?

This is the first report I have heard of this.

-Ukyo

It's real.
sr. member
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Is there some problem with Bitfunder ? It's hardly to access the website this week,often shows "This website can  not be displayed; error code :ERR_TIMED_OUT". Sad

Really?

What area are you in geographically?

This is the first report I have heard of this.

-Ukyo
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
Is there some problem with Bitfunder ? It's hardly to access the website this week,often shows "This website can  not be displayed; error code :ERR_TIMED_OUT". Sad
sr. member
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sr. member
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Thanks for the info and for working so hard on the legalities. As a user that puts me at ease and I will keep supporting bit funder.
sr. member
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Science!
@Ukyo

Anything in the works with regards to full trading API including options writing/rewriting/execution? I would love to see options included in the future trading API.
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sr. member
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Neither BitFunder nor WeExchange operates from the US or is incorporated in the US.

We have spent pretty much every BTC earned so far (and a larger amount of my own personal funds) on lawyers in multiple countries to ensure both site's are as legal as can be while we await final approval from one of a handful of government bodies we are trying to work with.
While I do not wish to give out the current incorporation of BitFunder, it is definitely in a country that is very clear that their first action if believed to be 100% in violation would be a cease and desist. However at this point 100% is about 70% away based on our proposed requests for answers.
While some may say this sounds fishy, the last thing we need is for someone to stir up trouble before we have had a chance to finish.

As I have pointed out to numerous people, as well as many many issuers of securities, and any who join BitFunder:

If you are a person,persons or business operating in the US, and unless you meet some very fine exceptions, you must seek permission to be traded online to be legal.
There are some alternative options which are available, all dependent on what the issuers are doing of course.
BitFunder does not offer legal advice to issuers but does make them aware that they need to do much research if they are insistent upon issuing from the US.
We have had many great asset idea requests come in. Impressive ideas. However they are still working on the legalization of their side of things.

To ease some concerns, the SEC made no statements that US citizens trading on any type of exchange outside the US is illegal.
The sole issues at hand come down to fraudsters and anything issued that obviously meets federal securities standards, barring special case exceptions.

We will continue as before, to finalize the legal standing for BitFunder and continue to build a strong service that the community can look to and depend on.
Some people are upset that the fee's on BitFunder are high. I can assure everyone that these funds are all going to lawyers to meet this end.
Having multiple large law firms whose employee's are former decision making regulators in multiple countries around the world does not come cheap.

I am sure you can imagine how many hundreds of hours a month must be put into research, discussion, and documentation all with many revisions to try to convince different government entities that we should be allowed to do what we are doing because of our special case.

Depending on which comes first, I am hoping to make some sort of announcement within the next 30~60 days with some good news.

-Ukyo

(Per MyJuffy's suggestion I added "Neither" to the very beginning. Wink
sr. member
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BTCT.CO has recently announced that the SEC charges against PirateAt40 have them rethinking offering securities and investments to US customers.  How does this recent turn of events affect Bitfunder, if at all?  I understand Bitfunder and WeExchange.co are not US entities, however the US does kind of bully other countries into submission sometimes.  Any statement from you Ukyo?  Too soon to tell?  Bitfunder not affected?

+1 on wanting to hear about this.
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