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Topic: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading - page 38. (Read 129419 times)

sr. member
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Neither BitFunder nor WeExchange operates from the US or is incorporated in the US.

We have spent pretty much every BTC earned so far (and a larger amount of my own personal funds) on lawyers in multiple countries to ensure both site's are as legal as can be while we await final approval from one of a handful of government bodies we are trying to work with.
While I do not wish to give out the current incorporation of BitFunder, it is definitely in a country that is very clear that their first action if believed to be 100% in violation would be a cease and desist. However at this point 100% is about 70% away based on our proposed requests for answers.
While some may say this sounds fishy, the last thing we need is for someone to stir up trouble before we have had a chance to finish.

As I have pointed out to numerous people, as well as many many issuers of securities, and any who join BitFunder:

If you are a person,persons or business operating in the US, and unless you meet some very fine exceptions, you must seek permission to be traded online to be legal.
There are some alternative options which are available, all dependent on what the issuers are doing of course.
BitFunder does not offer legal advice to issuers but does make them aware that they need to do much research if they are insistent upon issuing from the US.
We have had many great asset idea requests come in. Impressive ideas. However they are still working on the legalization of their side of things.

To ease some concerns, the SEC made no statements that US citizens trading on any type of exchange outside the US is illegal.
The sole issues at hand come down to fraudsters and anything issued that obviously meets federal securities standards, barring special case exceptions.

We will continue as before, to finalize the legal standing for BitFunder and continue to build a strong service that the community can look to and depend on.
Some people are upset that the fee's on BitFunder are high. I can assure everyone that these funds are all going to lawyers to meet this end.
Having multiple large law firms whose employee's are former decision making regulators in multiple countries around the world does not come cheap.

I am sure you can imagine how many hundreds of hours a month must be put into research, discussion, and documentation all with many revisions to try to convince different government entities that we should be allowed to do what we are doing because of our special case.

Depending on which comes first, I am hoping to make some sort of announcement within the next 30~60 days with some good news.

-Ukyo

(Per MyJuffy's suggestion I added "Neither" to the very beginning. Wink
sr. member
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BTCT.CO has recently announced that the SEC charges against PirateAt40 have them rethinking offering securities and investments to US customers.  How does this recent turn of events affect Bitfunder, if at all?  I understand Bitfunder and WeExchange.co are not US entities, however the US does kind of bully other countries into submission sometimes.  Any statement from you Ukyo?  Too soon to tell?  Bitfunder not affected?

+1 on wanting to hear about this.
hero member
Activity: 742
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BTCT.CO has recently announced that the SEC charges against PirateAt40 have them rethinking offering securities and investments to US customers.  How does this recent turn of events affect Bitfunder, if at all?  I understand Bitfunder and WeExchange.co are not US entities, however the US does kind of bully other countries into submission sometimes.  Any statement from you Ukyo?  Too soon to tell?  Bitfunder not affected?
newbie
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@Ukyo, please look into this ticket (OOB-09683), this is a serious problem.
newbie
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Hi Ukyo,

No, unfortunately the response was done by someone who did not bother to check the details I have provided.  It was guessed that transaction fees are the reason for the out of balance situation, but it has nothing to do with it.  Please urgently look at this personally.  I am 100% certain that you have a bug.
Vbs
hero member
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https://btct.co/history-bitfunder/

Does BitFunder have anything similar for BTC-TC? Grin
sr. member
Activity: 448
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@Ukyo

Please URGENTLY look at ticket OOB-09683.  I have found a huge bug with regards to executions on rewritten options.

Your ticket was responded to. Hopefully that shed's some light on your problem.

Thanks,
Ukyo
newbie
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@Ukyo

Please URGENTLY look at ticket OOB-09683.  I have found a huge bug with regards to executions on rewritten options.
legendary
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It will be awesome if the buy and sell prices can be added in the "My Assets" so no need to visit every asset pages to check the prices.
legendary
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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Didnt work for me. I now have 0.72BTC and i have enabled TAT.ASICMINER for 100%, max share price 1BTC. Pending reinvestment says 0.12BTC but i dont know what this means. Shareprice is at 0.045BTC. So it definitely doesnt work for me.
Ill buy now manually again like every week.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
I had another problem with reinvestment. Everything was setup, enabled for 100%, and the price was way above the actual shareprice. But no new shares are bought. I always have to do it manually.
Support isnt either.
Whats the problem? What is more needed than more than enough btc, 100% reinvest and the line is enabled?

I had the same problem with the dividends I got last week, but this week it worked.
The setting remained the same (100% reinvest, share price was set high enough).

So, last week I had to manually buy shares after I gotten my div's, but this week it worked as it should.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
I had another problem with reinvestment. Everything was setup, enabled for 100%, and the price was way above the actual shareprice. But no new shares are bought. I always have to do it manually.
Support isnt either.
Whats the problem? What is more needed than more than enough btc, 100% reinvest and the line is enabled?
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Sorry guys, I was using the morning to work on the new logging server since we had someone trying to fill the logs.
Unfortunately my backup logging took over on the local servers and they won. I am working on moving secondary logging to another system, as well as culling back logging that is being done. (This is mostly just system logging.)
member
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same problem here :/
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
This happened a couple of days ago,
I told Ukyo and he basicly reset a thing and then it worked like a charm, my guess it has to do with GA.
Should be fixed soon Smiley
//DeaDTerra
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Have the same problem... hope its solved soon.
hero member
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I cannot login. Every time I try, the homepage is loaded again with no login-related errors or messages. I have reset my password and cleared cookies. That didn't help.

good, it's not just me. looks like a website problem.
this happened before..hope its fixed soon
member
Activity: 118
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I cannot login. Every time I try, the homepage is loaded again with no login-related errors or messages. I have reset my password and cleared cookies. That didn't help.

good, it's not just me. looks like a website problem.
here too

Another Bitcoin venture hacked?
sr. member
Activity: 454
Merit: 252
I cannot login. Every time I try, the homepage is loaded again with no login-related errors or messages. I have reset my password and cleared cookies. That didn't help.

good, it's not just me. looks like a website problem.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
I cannot login. Every time I try, the homepage is loaded again with no login-related errors or messages. I have reset my password and cleared cookies. That didn't help.
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