Topic: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading - page 61. (Read 129419 times)

Definitely.
If it ever comes down that WeExchange must require id verification to deposit or withdraw BTC, then an alternative, beit direct or not, will be made available on BitFunder.

Yes, when Ian contacted me about the migration I do not recall a mention of if he was having a vote or not.
Although, in retrospect I do not think there was ever a real vote to move to btct.co either.
Just some forum posts by a mix shareholders, and non-shareholders at the time. (Granted I am not privy to any emails so I may have missed it there.)

I guess that was setting a precedent ? It seemed users at that time did not necessarily care where/what Ian did, as long as they got their
shares/divs. btct was not the only option at the time, crypto was around as well.

And yes, I can see how having to use his BitFunder account to claim shares that were originally on his exchange could be annoying, but in the end
it really should not matter really. You are buying the shares to be part of the asset, and support the asset, really regardless of where they are. I own
shares of lots of things that are not on BF. Would I be sad if I had to use another site to manage those shares? Depends on if I actively trade there
already or not, but I would be sad to see the asset leave. Would I get grumpy and dump all my shares of that asset because of some imaginary turf
war and possibly hurt the trading value of the asset, and other peoples value over it? Seems childish, emotional and irrational.

Edit: While writing this he made the above post. Apparently it seems his reasons for wanting to dump his shares of bakewell is because he does not want anyone having any kind of information about him. Although once the issue of him needing a WeExchange account is solved, it would become a non-issue I would think ?

Although, being that he did provide Ian with the list, he actually knew ahead of time, and made the decision to not act on 'inside information' and allowed his shares to be transferred w/o selling them off first.

Regardless of what exchange my shareholders are on, I will continue to hold them, trade them, earn divs from them, and reinvest into them as I see fit.

Right now you could put Mickey Mouse as your name and Disneyland as your address, so long as you don't want to use fiat currencies on weex.  Of course problem comes down the line if they suddenly change their policy and you can't get your BTC out of BitFunder without verifying your ID.  I'd HOPE that if weex ever makes that policy change then BitFunder would provide a means to withdraw without having to use weex - maybe Ukyo can give some reassurance on that.

It has nothing to do with exchange competition or whatever, I have had a Bitfunder account for a while.  I really like the site.  It's smooth and easy to use.  I think it's a good thing having alternatives out there.  Claiming my bakewell shares was super simple.  Kudos for that.

Please realize, this is simply a concern of a fellow bitfunder user.  Treat me as you would any of the other Bakewell shareholders.

Bakewell has transitioned my shares without prior warning, so if I want that BTC back, I am forced to give up my personal info.  It's no different than the crap Giga is pulling with Gigamining AML and I'm not the only shareholder pissed, he caught us all by surprise and remember this is a STOCK, things like this should have been put up to a motion.  (not even necessarily your fault here, I have no idea what your part of the transition deal is)  I don't give my personal info to Google or Facebook or any other sites I can avoid and it made me really upset when I had to give it to Paypal to collect $$ someone sent me.  Is there any way weexchange can relax the registration requirements and then collect that stuff when actually needed to execute real money transactions?

Thank you, appreciate your consideration.

Nothing against BitFunder, as I haven't given it a good going over...yet, but I'd be annoyed too if I had to go to another exchange to recover my shares because an asset issuer suddenly locked and transferred my shares without warning or vote.   

Yup, they even rent real executive offices too! It's a great location. (Esp. only being about 5min from the house.)
Free power included with the monthly.

WeExchange offers a btc exchange. It follows AML and KYC requirements. Being a business owner I am sure you can understand a need for this?
I mean, a business that's primary focus is to handle money really SHOULD know something about their customers and try to follow legal procedures.

While I cannot give you any advise on what to do about those fields. I can and will be helpful enough to tell you that currently, there is no verification needed if you are only depositing or withdrawing BTC. It is primarily for the fiats.

You seem kind of annoyed at having to deal with my sites in general? I am a little confused at this since you have had a BF account for some time now.
If you have 'competitor syndrome' or something like that I guess it is understandable why you cannot keep your personal issues to private conversation.

You know, I think I have mentioned several times that I have had accounts, not only on btct, but litecoinglobal as well, and even own shares of ltc-global.
Even if something on the site has annoyed me, or whatever, I still complied with and did what needed to be done to use the service without going into your thread/s and blasting you over my personal opinion, esp. when it is completely biased and irrelevant to anyone else.

I am glad to see that you were easily able to find readily available contact info for the site, and probably saw the ticket support system in BitFunder as well. I think any reputable site owes it to their users to offer some direct means of contact!

I can see the benefits if it was hooking up to Mt. Gox. or something. But they're pretty much owned by the same owner -.-

Still I deposited 3 btc.

I've done a couple transfers through wex to bitfunder, worked fine, not much of a hassle at all. I love the platform, good luck to those involved.

I went to open a weexchange account, it's asking for:

First Name:
Last Name:
Street Address 1:
Street Address 2:
City:
State:
Postal:
Country:
Phone Number:

Is all that really necessary?

I just want to transfer my BTC in and out of Bitfunder.  


Edit: I realize after posting that coming from me that you may consider this a personal slam against Bitfunder rather than a legitimate end user complaint.  Please, take it as the latter.  I had shares in Bakewell that I wish to liquidate to recover my BTC and I have zero desire to give up my personal contact info to weexchange if they are unwilling to give up their real contact info to me.

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Edit 2:

I thought maybe I could just skip the name/address/phone bit.  No can do:

Sorry, but what is the benefit? I fail to see it. Just one more step to take and more buttons to click.

WeExchange is an exchange site that Graet and myself operate.

I hope you would consider giving it a try as many others have and see the benefits for yourself.

Thanks!

Signed up to a real site and looked around how to deposit my BTC. I was really disappointed and surprised to find out I need a account in something called weexchange.co
WTF is weexchange.co and what is the value they add to this?

BitFunder is currently performing maintenance tonight.

Happy new years.

First of two maintenance windows are complete.

The last one will start about 9pm CST and last 2~4 hours.

Ah, that was probably WeExchange, it has a known bug for that actually.

Ian,

Was it the signup verification email, or lost password verification email?
Usagi seems to have a problem with the lost password one.

-Ukyo

Nice updated Ukyo! Keep up the good work!

Cancel on the asset page now leaves you on the asset page.

Sales to date in settings looks fine now - thanks.

Just encountered a minor niggle - easily fixed I hope.

If I go to the market for an asset and Cancel one of my orders it takes me back to "My Assets" - instead of back to an updated view of the market for that asset.  Most times I cancel an order it's to put it back up at a different price - so staying in the market should be the default behaviour.  Cancelling an order doesn't change my assets - so no reason it should go them.  It's most annoying when cancelling a bid - as if I don't already own any of them I can't even go directly back to the asset from "My Assets" and have to go back via the main market.

A few minor issues - none urgent or catastrophic.

1.  Volume reported (in settings) seems broken.  Mine says : "This quarter you have sold: ฿1 worth.".  After I did my first few sales totalling about 2.97 BTC it stayed at 0.  At some point later (days not minutes/hours) it went to 1.  I've sold more since then and it hasn't yet risen again.  Not sure what it's calculating - but it isn't the total value of shares I've sold (and paid fees on).

2.  When I make a purchase or sale (or just place a bid/ask) the screen refreshes and gos back to the same asset trade screen.  That's great - but the count of shares and BTC remains the same as prior to the transaction.  Got caught out by this trying to place a second Bid on something with what it said were my available funds - when of course it was reporting the funds as they were BEFORE my previous bid was placed.  The total BTC at top of screen also doesn't update.  Wuuld guess it's just that the page is being reloaded before some cache has been cleared/refreshed.

3.  This isn't an issue as such - just checking I have something correct, plus a question.  If I look at the public asset list and look at (for example) ABM (as it's first) I see only 285 shares listed.  But if I look at the profile for ABM I see 989 shares issued.  Would I be correct that the large discrepancy between those numbers is shares that you auto-imported but for which the account holder hasn't yet set a BTC address?  Further, would I be correct that I can edit my BTC address to blank so that noone can correlate my various holdings?  As someone who trades I can see clear uses that can be made from that information to assist in trading (I'm not going to spell them out here obviously).  So if it's allowed to blank your BTC address I'll weigh up the benefits/risks of doing so and either blank mine or not.  I don't believe you've fully considered how useful that public list is to someone who trades (and, hence, how unhelpful being on that list can be).