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Topic: [BitFunder] BTCINVEST - Low risk investment fund | Market cap: 2000+ BTC - page 2. (Read 45537 times)

sr. member
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Never spend your money before you have it.

+1 I'm just getting back to this thread after a while without checking it, but I vote for liquidation too, and I appreciate anything Ukyo can do to help us recover part of our investment in BTCINVEST

Don't liquidate yet!!
Hold out and you might get those big gains again. . .
full member
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+1 I'm just getting back to this thread after a while without checking it, but I vote for liquidation too, and I appreciate anything Ukyo can do to help us recover part of our investment in BTCINVEST
hero member
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I have 1 BTCTINVEST share listed for the address 12H7K88thLX2r5hq3zYAruKZwEhh3cHc8w. The 13th of December, I sent them an email with the request to transfer my share to my account on coinlenders (rklopman). The issue is that I cannot sign my BTC address because it is a Bitstamp address.

I have not received any response to my email. I would like to have my share transferred. If this is not possible, I want it to be liquidated and the money to be sent to 12H7K88thLX2r5hq3zYAruKZwEhh3cHc8w.


Have you read this thread?  TradeFortress has disappeared with our money.
newbie
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I have 1 BTCTINVEST share listed for the address 12H7K88thLX2r5hq3zYAruKZwEhh3cHc8w. The 13th of December, I sent them an email with the request to transfer my share to my account on coinlenders (rklopman). The issue is that I cannot sign my BTC address because it is a Bitstamp address.

I have not received any response to my email. I would like to have my share transferred. If this is not possible, I want it to be liquidated and the money to be sent to 12H7K88thLX2r5hq3zYAruKZwEhh3cHc8w.
legendary
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newbie
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any progress on the liquidation?
donator
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And the TradeFortress Scam lives on Smiley
hero member
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I vote for liquidation too.
legendary
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I also vote for liquidation. Thank you for your efforts!
newbie
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BTCINVEST    46    1EumCAVFvHu983wMHWfTw3ayDaBb3T8dJR
 
That's me, I also agree to Ukyo trying to recover what he can.
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... we can sell/auction off the remaining assets and distribute them proportionally based on a list prior to TF transfers.

Sounds good to me.

Sounds good to me as well.  Would be nice to recover some funds for my 31 shares to the 1Nasty address.
full member
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... we can sell/auction off the remaining assets and distribute them proportionally based on a list prior to TF transfers.

Sounds good to me.

How soon would you be able to liquidate them and make payments?

legendary
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This was not a full payoff for the shares either. It was a a distribution of some funds.
While I may not have the ability to give users access to coinlenders to get what was there, as long as the remaining asset operators agree, we can sell/auction off the remaining assets and distribute them proportionally based on a list prior to TF transfers.

-Ukyo

While that's not perfect, as some people already got payouts. It's IMO still the fairest solution possible. I would like seeing it going this way. Thanks for you effort.
full member
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the problem is i am not on the list.
i had 6 shares. i have transferred them to coinlenders but it i got nothing.
my address is 1bbxx....

sad story.


Assets Transfered to Issuers
Asset    Amount
BTCINVEST    6

I would be able to make a more accurate list reversing transfers to TF.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that he paid out nothing to anyone.

-Ukyo

I had 100 shares that aren't listed there either.
sr. member
Activity: 448
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Not true, at least B15K3 got paid.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3945606


Just for the record, TF did actually make a "payout" of some of the value of BTCINVEST shares, by depositing the some BTC into shareholders Coinlenders accounts- 0.08684 BTC paid out per share. He said this was "primarily Just Dice" along with some other assets". #263

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3447344

I believe that some shareholders were sensible enough to immediately withdraw that payment. Most, including myself, probably didn't and lost that "payment" along with the rest of their Coinlenders account balance when TF disappeared with probably somewhere in the region of 10,000 stolen BTC.

Here is the original post stating that he was going to liquidate holdings and wind down BTCINVEST. #283

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3412811

As I suspect that there are very few Asicminer shares still recoverable (under 42 has been mentioned), and possibly there could be something to recover from BtcQuick (has anyone made enquiries with them?), I assume that the only shares which still might have any value would be Ukyo and Graet loans. Therefore I still think that the best course of action for BTCINVEST shareholders to recover anything would be to ask for Ukyo's assistance with this.

Note: Links to posts don't seem to be working properly, you have to look down the page to find the correct post.


This was not a full payoff for the shares either. It was a a distribution of some funds.
While I may not have the ability to give users access to coinlenders to get what was there, as long as the remaining asset operators agree, we can sell/auction off the remaining assets and distribute them proportionally based on a list prior to TF transfers.

-Ukyo
member
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This went on for at the very least 40 days before Ukyo / Jon posted any notification of it it happening.
I agree that a notification on the site would have been better but I can't think of any bitcoin exchange that have ever done that when withdrawal was slow.
He did write this in October when the withdrawal issues started though:
Hey guys,

Sorry, been very busy with many many things going on.
At the same time I have been fighting problems with bitcoind and rpc timeouts.
Weex already had a huge backlog of tickets, and this has not helped at all, we are trying to work through all requests as soon as possible.
If you have an issue with your account please open a ticket and it will be worked on as soon as it can be got to.
Many users have already had their issues fixed.

-Ukyo


Jon did absolutely nothing to stop people from depositing to his website when he was fully aware that he would not give them their coins back.
How do you know that he was fully aware of that at the time? He said the situation became what it is today in just a few days. He did process transfers manually in the beginning, as several users confirmed receiving their withdrawals. He wouldn't have been able to manual transfers if the situation was the same as it is now, i.e. the bitcoins would not have been available for him to use. For that to add up the situation must have changed some weeks after he first reported the problems with the bitcoind client and was able to do manual withdrawals. (my guess is around November 20) This also adds up with anything we know so far.
full member
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Not true, at least B15K3 got paid.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3945606


Just for the record, TF did actually make a "payout" of some of the value of BTCINVEST shares, by depositing the some BTC into shareholders Coinlenders accounts- 0.08684 BTC paid out per share. He said this was "primarily Just Dice" along with some other assets". #263

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3447344

I believe that some shareholders were sensible enough to immediately withdraw that payment. Most, including myself, probably didn't and lost that "payment" along with the rest of their Coinlenders account balance when TF disappeared with probably somewhere in the region of 10,000 stolen BTC.

Here is the original post stating that he was going to liquidate holdings and wind down BTCINVEST. #283

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3412811

As I suspect that there are very few Asicminer shares still recoverable (under 42 has been mentioned), and possibly there could be something to recover from BtcQuick (has anyone made enquiries with them?), I assume that the only shares which still might have any value would be Ukyo and Graet loans. Therefore I still think that the best course of action for BTCINVEST shareholders to recover anything would be to ask for Ukyo's assistance with this.

Note: Links to posts don't seem to be working properly, you have to look down the page to find the correct post.
legendary
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Nothing wrong with posting facts. So let's clear some things up. Smiley

1. Correct
2. The site allowed deposits for 2+ years. Notice that all funds would not be available for withdraw went up within a few days of the situation becoming what it is now.

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What a lie. Are we talking about folks inability to withdraw their deposits from WeExchange?  This went on for at the very least 40 days before Ukyo / Jon posted any notification of it it happening.  I publicly asked him to at the very least post a warning to users that they would not be able to withdraw their coins when the deposited them, somewhere around a month into it. and then a week or two later a lame warning message was posted on the site.   A few days, are you seriously claiming that Ukyo?  You scamming scum. Why don't you do something useful with your life instead of ripping people off?  

Please people read up on the thread " The 94% Con by Jon Montroll" here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-94-con-by-jon-montroll-337523

As you can see the first user who reported being unable to withdraw the coins they deposited was Nov 19th.  And who knows how long it was even happening before that report.  A few days? What a joke.  

"I add my requests too, I trusted Ukyo but I'm loosing my faith day by day he keeps to remain vague about this issue. Avoid blocking withdrawals from weexchange seems odd, too.

Username          WeExchange ID                                 Amount                  Time Stamp
Pompolus     uIIxCevq18AuQe1i2jTftijKq6Fj03cf            5.49994209BTC   2013-11-02
Pompolus     GlWNK4426syVhELe97ew7K62gOmqtfD3     5.00000000BTC    2013-11-02


stucked since november 2nd, 17 days and counting"


Jon did absolutely nothing to stop people from depositing to his website when he was fully aware that he would not give them their coins back. I think it was around 45 days after these problems were public that he even put a notice about on the WeExchange about it.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100

I would be able to make a more accurate list reversing transfers to TF.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that he paid out nothing to anyone.

-Ukyo

Not true, at least B15K3 got paid.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3945606

sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
the problem is i am not on the list.
i had 6 shares. i have transferred them to coinlenders but it i got nothing.
my address is 1bbxx....

sad story.


Assets Transfered to Issuers
Asset    Amount
BTCINVEST    6

I would be able to make a more accurate list reversing transfers to TF.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that he paid out nothing to anyone.

-Ukyo
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