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July 26, 2011, 12:52:53 AM
Can we do a re-assessment of bitclockers? I seem to be getting good results with them, but some are saying there is a problem. Can anybody enlighten me?

P.S. c00w has completely fixed the stats issue regarding enabling bitclockers.
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July 26, 2011, 12:47:45 AM
are you sure you switched to the api method suggested by mrsam?
for me its working.

and he already announced HERE that he will fake stats when accessed through the https site (which i am fine with and which i can understand)

Well, it's not about fake stats through https. The stats are correct in the  browser but incorrect in bitHopper. I assume they are filtering by user agent - changing the user agent got the correct stats.

I go out for a day a triplemining is faking stats to BitHopper. I'm sure someone noticed, but thought I'd give a warning before catching up on the reading.

Finally had to apply the commit mentioned earlier to fake the user agent: https://github.com/ryouiki/bitHopper/commit/e8fa81053efa238c062d03603c44eeecf4a87523

There isn't a ryouiki release with the correct api pull for triple.

It just parses the website. Seeing as there is a json for the round shares, I just updated my local copy to use that.
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July 26, 2011, 12:46:58 AM
rampone:
Red means it lagged out. Are you sure you didn't accientally change the api_address?

I didn't change the address, and of course now it's no longer red... I'll have to watch it again the next time they hit a block.
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July 26, 2011, 12:32:04 AM
rampone:
Red means it lagged out. Are you sure you didn't accientally change the api_address?
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dafq is goin on
July 26, 2011, 12:07:42 AM
Is there something special to get mtred working? I keep getting error decoding json, and it shows up as red on the stats page, and won't switch.

Thanks!

Have a older ryouki fork, but mtred should work outof da box. they didnt change anything.
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July 25, 2011, 11:55:28 PM

I had some rookie errors while running bitHopper on Windows 7 x64. Things that helped me are:


I had a non-rookie last Friday. Downloaded an updated Ryouiki build, removed .default from the password file. Compared to my existing password file. Check.
Then forgot to copy my existing password file into the folder. 4 hours and lightning fast round on mtred later I discovered my error.

Consider it a tip Ryouiki. Smiley
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July 25, 2011, 11:46:19 PM
Just wanted to share a few things with you...

1) c00w: You are awesome. Thank you for spending the night trying to figure out my issue that I should have found.
    BitQuarter for your hard work.
2) Can someone figure what pool.cfg works for bitclockers? That was the above issue that completely killed stats when set to mine.
3) With regards to Bitcoins.lc : Is c00w fork using the same method ryouiki was/is using? That seemed to work well for me. Of course, it may have had the same stats delayed problem.

I had some rookie errors while running bitHopper on Windows 7 x64. Things that helped me are:

1) I wasn't sure how to run bH, so I ran from the IDLE GUI. When I exited the GUI, it force closed the program leaving the database locked. Several things worked in order from worst to first: Restart computer; Kill python task in Task Manager; Press "Ctrl+Alt+C" while focused on the GUI console.
2) The best option which escaped me until tonight was to create a shortcut of "python.exe" , and edit it to look like this:
"C:\Python27\python.exe C:\bitHopper\bithopper.py"
This makes it easy to double click to create an instance of bH and click X to close cleanly.

Thanks to all who write code, contribute config, beat up on trolls, and pool ops who amicably discuss pros and cons of pool hopping. You all have made this a hobby.
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Poor impulse control.
July 25, 2011, 11:45:44 PM


I'm still not sure how you would tell - if stats are delayed by an hour, then you'd still get a full amount of shares because bitHopper would still hop off at the point that it thought was correct. It sounds like what you're talking about is more like delaying an update to let everyone know a block has started?

Either way, is the website total shares the same as or different to the json total shares?

What happens is this.  Say a round is six hours and 30 minutes long.  Well the website will report the round as 7 hours long, and then suddenly report that round as six hours and 30 minutes long and report the new round as starting 30 minutes ago.  So then the hopper switches usually because its only like 170k shares but you have essentially missed out on the most valuable mining that there is.  You still make money over Ars on short to normal length rounds, but on long rounds your shares are essentially worthless.

ok, but then wouldn't the total shares on the website not increase?
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July 25, 2011, 11:39:26 PM


I'm still not sure how you would tell - if stats are delayed by an hour, then you'd still get a full amount of shares because bitHopper would still hop off at the point that it thought was correct. It sounds like what you're talking about is more like delaying an update to let everyone know a block has started?

Either way, is the website total shares the same as or different to the json total shares?

What happens is this.  Say a round is six hours and 30 minutes long.  Well the website will report the round as 7 hours long, and then suddenly report that round as six hours and 30 minutes long and report the new round as starting 30 minutes ago.  So then the hopper switches usually because its only like 170k shares but you have essentially missed out on the most valuable mining that there is.  You still make money over Ars on short to normal length rounds, but on long rounds your shares are essentially worthless.
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July 25, 2011, 11:36:08 PM
How are you noticing this - is it a difference between json and website? I'm at work and can't check, sorry.

I have been mining bitcoins.lc for a while and have been monitoring it.  For the last few days I have only been able to jump to bitcoins.lc 30 minutes into a block which is like 177k shares.  I asked Jine straight up what was going on and he replied that he is randomly delaying stats 0-3600 seconds. 

I'm still not sure how you would tell - if stats are delayed by an hour, then you'd still get a full amount of shares because bitHopper would still hop off at the point that it thought was correct. It sounds like what you're talking about is more like delaying an update to let everyone know a block has started?

Either way, is the website total shares the same as or different to the json total shares?
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July 25, 2011, 11:22:13 PM
mtred should work by default. Are you using the latest version?
Oh and mine_nmc and mine_slush are added.

Shares are stored in database as difficulty stamped (and once i add workers, difficulty and worker stamped). I'm not sure if the network code is taking that into account or if we serve the data like that. I should just serve an expected for each server. I'll take a look.
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July 25, 2011, 11:07:16 PM
@c00w - while I've got you - are shares in the db assigned a difficulty level? My efficiency has been through the roof lately, and while this might be because I've only gone on backup once this week - today - I was just wanting to make sure that all shares weren't given the same difficulty since the efficiency will look better compared to the total coins you have and artificially elevate the efficiency. Or should we reset the db at each diff increase? Sorry if this has already been covered.
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July 25, 2011, 11:06:28 PM
How are you noticing this - is it a difference between json and website? I'm at work and can't check, sorry.

I have been mining bitcoins.lc for a while and have been monitoring it.  For the last few days I have only been able to jump to bitcoins.lc 30 minutes into a block which is like 177k shares.  I asked Jine straight up what was going on and he replied that he is randomly delaying stats 0-3600 seconds. 
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July 25, 2011, 11:02:50 PM
with mtred: Never mined, they minted a new block!! Wink hoppersden invite anyone 4 me plz?
Is there something special to get mtred working? I keep getting error decoding json, and it shows up as red on the stats page, and won't switch.

Thanks!
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July 25, 2011, 11:01:07 PM
Custom difficulty cutoffs?
Yeah. That would be pretty quick. I'll add it in. use mine_slush as role for a 10% cutoff.

Excellent I'll try it on all non-XXMPS/Meni algo pools. See how we go compared to theory.
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July 25, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
So havnt seen it mentioned here, but dont bother with bitcoins.lc

The actual displayed stats is delayed 0-60mins so hopping is pointless right now over there.

Even if I am missing out on a bit, I'm still getting 150% there.

Weird, we are only getting into the mid to long range rounds.

Atm there is no way to get accurate share submission for <100k share rounds , these are the rounds we would score at the most.

At their current ~400gh poolspeed without hoppers , the shares seem to first refresh on a new round ~90k mark, and recently they had couple of quick rounds that any hopper would miss out on.
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How are you noticing this - is it a difference between json and website? I'm at work and can't check, sorry.
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dafq is goin on
July 25, 2011, 10:58:41 PM
with mtred: Never mined, they minted a new block!! Wink hoppersden invite anyone 4 me plz?
bb
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July 25, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
What is the general purpose of custom cutoffs? (Wasn't there someone showing what the ideal cutoff was?)
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July 25, 2011, 10:52:55 PM
Custom difficulty cutoffs?
Yeah. That would be pretty quick. I'll add it in. use mine_slush as role for a 10% cutoff.
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July 25, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
Mmmhhh, sorry Mister triplemining op. But at least u had some hashrate while i was away.

Lesson 1: never leave your hopper longer than 4 hours Wink

And now I am wondering: Did mtred find a block or also gone rogue?h

32minute block.  Was awesome.
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