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July 20, 2011, 06:30:34 PM
Eclipse:
That was bitp.it... Not bitcoins.lc.
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July 20, 2011, 06:27:43 PM
I think bitcoins.lc is delaying stats by an hour now.  They solved their last block at 6PM EST exactly and ryouiki fork with fixed user agent switched exactly at 7PM EST and started to mine.

Havnt mined there since i figured out they kill share value of people not staying the whole duration of block. Dont think they even publish this, but I can confirm it happening on the most recent 2 blocks.

EDIT: I removed my own stupid statement refering to the wrong pool comment in this thread. However, my results in recent blocks still shows something being adjusted for early leavers within a block.

This comes down to, dont go there if you poolhop.
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July 20, 2011, 06:19:44 PM
I think bitcoins.lc is delaying stats by an hour now.  They solved their last block at 6PM EST exactly and ryouiki fork with fixed user agent switched exactly at 7PM EST and started to mine.
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July 20, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
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more like 1-2days, the nmc/btc price is dropping fast

I plan to hold onto them for a little while.. right now all the temp namecoiners are mining and converting as fast as they can, when the diff goes back up, they will all go back to mining BTC and not selling NMC and the price should creep up a bit again

Small problem tho, namecoin price drop followed suit with bitcoin price drop.

You would need to hold on for atleast a month or two in hopes of recovering at higher price, just look at where we are with bitcoin price.
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moOo
July 20, 2011, 05:23:42 PM
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more like 1-2days, the nmc/btc price is dropping fast

I plan to hold onto them for a little while.. right now all the temp namecoiners are mining and converting as fast as they can, when the diff goes back up, they will all go back to mining BTC and not selling NMC and the price should creep up a bit again
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July 20, 2011, 04:59:37 PM
https://poolmunity.com/api.php


these guys let you do namecoin or bitcoin too

the second line is namecoin.. so I think we can hop these guys with namecoins and use bitparking as backup..we only have 5-8 days  of NMC profitability.



more like 1-2days, the nmc/btc price is dropping fast.

If any nmc/btc combined pool is added I would have to suggest coinotron.com aswell, very sleek account management.
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moOo
July 20, 2011, 04:48:26 PM
https://poolmunity.com/api.php


these guys let you do namecoin or bitcoin too

the second line is namecoin.. so I think we can hop these guys with namecoins and use bitparking as backup..we only have 5-8 days  of NMC profitability.

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July 20, 2011, 04:23:47 PM
latest mod :
added deepbit with fixed round share value (difficulty * 0.431) and penalty 3
added BitParking ('role':'removefromlist' as default)
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July 20, 2011, 03:50:10 PM
if we could add coinotron.. some of us could mine namecoins now and then while the difficulty is so low making it more profitable than bitcoins.

not sure what to do with the lack of a pool api.. maybe add them as a backup?


why dont i just mine namecoins? well I know they are more profitable from mining bitcoins without hopping but not so sure about mining bitcoins with hopping.

I also am for adding namecoins to bithopper. It seems they are more profitable right now than BTC.
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July 20, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
1) bitcoins.lc?
They are competely broken and messing with us. Thats why it is disabled. You can do some fancy integral estimation, or use ryou's fork but its still not that geat.

The json api is set to lie through its teeth. So don't use it.

I had no problem with stats.json (atleast for the last rounds I mined at bitcoins.lc) however, I stopped briefly as mentioned earlier and they totally raped me for a bunch of my shares.

Wont touch them again soon.
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July 20, 2011, 03:24:00 PM
1) bitcoins.lc?
They are competely broken and messing with us. Thats why it is disabled. You can do some fancy integral estimation, or use ryou's fork but its still not that geat.

The json api is set to lie through its teeth. So don't use it.

2) Crashes with api_address?
Hmmm. Obviously I don't get it or It would be fixed. Do you have any nonstandard pools enabled?
And I'll add in something which autofills them and might fix your problem.
Hmm.
I really like the log though.
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July 20, 2011, 03:14:50 PM
Successfully added a NMC pool as backup
I chose bitparking as no signup is needed. Just start mining. Pay-outs can only happen to the address used as username.

pool.py
Code:
'bitparking':{'shares':difficulty*.41, 'name':'BitParking',
    'mine_address':'bitparking.com:9098', 'user':nmc_user,
    'pass':nmc_pass, 'lag':False, 'LP':None,
    'role':'backup'},

password.py
Code:
#BitParking - NMC
nmc_user='N65kZkGc4PcHVxfDBSJD43GDytHcWfn8L6'
nmc_pass='x'

Tested on c00w's branch - commit: 438b270 (old, I know, but it's working for me)

Adding share info isn't particularly useful, imo, considering difficulty is in the 23K area.
For pulling html user/pool stats http://bitparking.com/user/ can be used.
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moOo
July 20, 2011, 03:03:48 PM
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Anyone still mine using multipool/multiclon

I mess with it still.

flowers fork using multiclone as a backup site.

I dont like the randomness of payments.. i dont like the long pending. I dont like all my coins being controlled by some guy I dont really know.I dont like how when multipool went down people lost coin. I dont like not knowing how it works.. I do like everything being in once place, all payments come at once and the easy to check website.

I'll probably add it back as a backup when this hoppers development slows down... not sure if it is a great idea, cause if we are going to our backup... as multiclone.. multiclone should be mining on it;s backup.. or at least some site we havent added yet.
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July 20, 2011, 02:55:50 PM
What makes you think deepbit wouldnt ban you faster for hopping than ars or eligius?

based on my understanding of how your pool delays stats i am not quite figuring out how they can do this.
are they assuming if a block is solved and they cannot figure out who did it via screen scraping or an api.. it
must be deepbit?

or do you possibly know something i do not?
There are some possible options, but usually they don't give 100% true resuts.
The fact that they don't show it for everyone is a bit suspicious, by the way.

All pool hashrate jumps and dips are visible to me, so if poolhopping will cause a considerable loss for my users, I'll take appropriate actions.

If it is just a backup, and it's just a user-set option it will not cause a considerable loss for his users. Tycho hasn't yet banned for hopping.

Also, prop at deebit is 3% fee, SMPPS is non-variance 0% fee at arsbitcoin.

Not sure at what hashrate you are mining but if 1BTC min withdrawal at arsbitcoin is to much, then I assume you arnt hashing fast.

I'm hashing 2.3-2.6Gh/s so it's not super fast, but it's not nothing.

EDIT:
I guess I want to compare a couple days with ARS as backup to DB as backup to see if the rapid payout rounds from DB make a difference.
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July 20, 2011, 02:53:48 PM
Anyone still mine using multipool/multiclone or have you switched entirely to bitHopper?

I see multiclone uses slush/btcguild, not sure how or if they are backup pools. Otherwise, they primarily appear to mine at mtred/bitcoinpool.
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July 20, 2011, 02:48:29 PM
ah, you are right. I was looking at automatic payout minimum.
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July 20, 2011, 02:43:42 PM
the SMPPS by arsbitcoin at 0% fee pays at a minimum 10% more than PPS from deepbit.

Not sure how you could work on 'feel' when in practice there is no chance deepbits PPS @ 10% fee will pay you more.

Regarding bitcoins.lc, I have a feeling they changed their Prop to score based Prop or something, I just got screwed over by them just finishing a 3hr 30mins block, I mind pretty much solidly for 2hrs 30ms of the block however my original estimate earnings for that period would have been 2.8BTC, and I received 0.18BTC for missing 1hr of the period ? sounds like they should be avoided.

Yeah, I'm not talking about PPS on deepbit, just using the straight prop. Not so much a 'feel' as a comparison to what I was pulling when I was mining just on Deepbit (prop) vs. the coins that are stagnating at eligius and ars. Ars won't pay until .50, eligius won't pay until .33 but Deepbit will pay out above .01

As long as those coins sit in an account at eligius or ars they are at risk (ban and keep) vs. pulling into my wallet where they are actually "mine". Before they are confirmed in my wallet, I can't count them as earned.

What makes you think deepbit wouldnt ban you faster for hopping than ars or eligius? Also, prop at deebit is 3% fee, SMPPS is non-variance 0% fee at arsbitcoin.

Not sure at what hashrate you are mining but if 1BTC min withdrawal at arsbitcoin is to much, then I assume you arnt hashing fast.


Min at Ars is 0.01 BTC.
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moOo
July 20, 2011, 02:37:25 PM
if we could add coinotron.. some of us could mine namecoins now and then while the difficulty is so low making it more profitable than bitcoins.

not sure what to do with the lack of a pool api.. maybe add them as a backup?


why dont i just mine namecoins? well I know they are more profitable from mining bitcoins without hopping but not so sure about mining bitcoins with hopping.
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July 20, 2011, 02:33:59 PM
the SMPPS by arsbitcoin at 0% fee pays at a minimum 10% more than PPS from deepbit.

Not sure how you could work on 'feel' when in practice there is no chance deepbits PPS @ 10% fee will pay you more.

Regarding bitcoins.lc, I have a feeling they changed their Prop to score based Prop or something, I just got screwed over by them just finishing a 3hr 30mins block, I mind pretty much solidly for 2hrs 30ms of the block however my original estimate earnings for that period would have been 2.8BTC, and I received 0.18BTC for missing 1hr of the period ? sounds like they should be avoided.

Yeah, I'm not talking about PPS on deepbit, just using the straight prop. Not so much a 'feel' as a comparison to what I was pulling when I was mining just on Deepbit (prop) vs. the coins that are stagnating at eligius and ars. Ars won't pay until .50, eligius won't pay until .33 but Deepbit will pay out above .01

As long as those coins sit in an account at eligius or ars they are at risk (ban and keep) vs. pulling into my wallet where they are actually "mine". Before they are confirmed in my wallet, I can't count them as earned.

What makes you think deepbit wouldnt ban you faster for hopping than ars or eligius? Also, prop at deebit is 3% fee, SMPPS is non-variance 0% fee at arsbitcoin.

Not sure at what hashrate you are mining but if 1BTC min withdrawal at arsbitcoin is to much, then I assume you arnt hashing fast.
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July 20, 2011, 02:31:52 PM
the SMPPS by arsbitcoin at 0% fee pays at a minimum 10% more than PPS from deepbit.

Not sure how you could work on 'feel' when in practice there is no chance deepbits PPS @ 10% fee will pay you more.

Regarding bitcoins.lc, I have a feeling they changed their Prop to score based Prop or something, I just got screwed over by them just finishing a 3hr 30mins block, I mind pretty much solidly for 2hrs 30ms of the block however my original estimate earnings for that period would have been 2.8BTC, and I received 0.18BTC for missing 1hr of the period ? sounds like they should be avoided.

Yeah, I'm not talking about PPS on deepbit, just using the straight prop. Not so much a 'feel' as a comparison to what I was pulling when I was mining just on Deepbit (prop) vs. the coins that are stagnating at eligius and ars. Ars won't pay until .50, eligius won't pay until .33 but Deepbit will pay out above .01

As long as those coins sit in an account at eligius or ars they are at risk (ban and keep) vs. pulling into my wallet where they are actually "mine". Before they are confirmed in my wallet, I can't count them as earned.
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