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Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 07:37:59 AM

So onto a another topic but related :0 , anyone got code snippets to add triplemining.com to the rotation ?

I already posted one a few pages back - you need to import the re (regular expressions) package though, as you have to scrape HTML. Other than that I didn't have any issues with it so far. c00w did not(yet?) include it on git though, maybe because of the HTML?

nofeemining can be done fairly similar, it doesn't matter anyways if you decode a json file or search for some numbers in a HTML response... Usually you won't need something fancy like beautifulsoup...

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Quote from: paraipan on July 15, 2011, 07:44:52 AM

Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 07:37:59 AM

So onto a another topic but related :0 , anyone got code snippets to add triplemining.com to the rotation ?

You could make your own if you don´t like waiting, you have the snipet right in "pool.py" file. Don´t foget to make 2 new entries in "password.py" for user and pass

Yeh, was just busy with some other stuff and figured if someone had it on hand they could post it. If I get around to it I will post it here.

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Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 07:37:59 AM

So onto a another topic but related :0 , anyone got code snippets to add triplemining.com to the rotation ?

You could make your own if you don´t like waiting, you have the snipet right in "pool.py" file. Don´t foget to make 2 new entries in "password.py" for user and pass

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So onto a another topic but related :0 , anyone got code snippets to add triplemining.com to the rotation ?

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Quote from: Sukrim on July 15, 2011, 06:44:57 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on July 15, 2011, 06:30:37 AM

Any reason not to start adding up and comers instead of going after the big guys?

Rounds there last forever aaand the risk of being scammed is also a LOT higher if they just have a userbase of ~50 ppl. Especially since they might view it as "cheating the cheaters" and not even feel wrong about it.

https://www.nofeemining.com/ has anyways "round shares" on their front page, that's all you need really. As they only found 2 blocks so far though I'm still a bit sceptical...

Rounds last forever shouldn't be an issue for 'hoppers. We'll get payment eventually - unless the new pool wants to ruin their reputation early on. And i think they'd be glad of the extra hashes and do whatever they can *not* to put us off.

See your point with nfm, but i didn't want to add html scraping to the bithopper code. TFL.

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Poor impulse control.

Anyone trialled taking the the round share proportion of difficulty before hopping to eligius to 1.0?

I'd be interested to see if it affects efficiency at all (from my admittedly rusty math i dont think Raulo's hypothesis applies to multi-pool hopping and http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=24966.0 and http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=28499.msg358718#msg358718 have nice little explanations).

I'm starting to think staying until difficulty (if you have to) is the way to go.

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Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 07:18:00 AM

not to be a pain in the ass, but could you put it on mediafire.

For some reason my internet is terribly slow to 2shared and megaupload and just timesout, mediafire seems fast however.

np here you go .... http://www.mediafire.com/?3ywhg717wwcbxns

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not to be a pain in the ass, but could you put it on mediafire.

For some reason my internet is terribly slow to 2shared and megaupload and just timesout, mediafire seems fast however.

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Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 06:58:00 AM

Quote from: paraipan on July 15, 2011, 06:53:59 AM

Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 06:48:29 AM

I think right now bithopper have a decently big-enough per pool balanced list.

Its only really worth it to include 100gh+ sized pools at this point.

I think you´re right but for testing purposes I just enabled all pools and temporarily disabled the backup (have other failsafe method)

My last hour stats: http://www.2shared.com/file/IpuYpwOJ/stats.html

2shared just seems to hang, weirdness.

Anyhow, its worth it for people to test out different approaches other than default current bithopper methods.

Would be nice to see the different outcomes

Uploading to another service..... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B8DCBLGU ... Done

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Quote from: paraipan on July 15, 2011, 06:53:59 AM

Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 06:48:29 AM

I think right now bithopper have a decently big-enough per pool balanced list.

Its only really worth it to include 100gh+ sized pools at this point.

I think you´re right but for testing purposes I just enabled all pools and temporarily disabled the backup (have other failsafe method)

My last hour stats: http://www.2shared.com/file/IpuYpwOJ/stats.html

2shared just seems to hang, weirdness.

Anyhow, its worth it for people to test out different approaches other than default current bithopper methods.

Would be nice to see the different outcomes

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Quote from: Clipse on July 15, 2011, 06:48:29 AM

I think right now bithopper have a decently big-enough per pool balanced list.

Its only really worth it to include 100gh+ sized pools at this point.

I think you´re right but for testing purposes I just enabled all pools and temporarily disabled the backup (have other failsafe method)

My last hour stats: http://www.2shared.com/file/IpuYpwOJ/stats.html

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I think right now bithopper have a decently big-enough per pool balanced list.

Its only really worth it to include 100gh+ sized pools at this point.

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Quote from: organofcorti on July 15, 2011, 06:30:37 AM

Any reason not to start adding up and comers instead of going after the big guys?

Rounds there last forever aaand the risk of being scammed is also a LOT higher if they just have a userbase of ~50 ppl. Especially since they might view it as "cheating the cheaters" and not even feel wrong about it.

https://www.nofeemining.com/ has anyways "round shares" on their front page, that's all you need really. As they only found 2 blocks so far though I'm still a bit sceptical...

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Quote from: c00w on July 15, 2011, 01:47:57 AM

2) Stats?
Well I'm rewriting it now to use a database. And to show stats for all the servers we mine.

Mine are 133% for btcguild.

Around 800% for bitp.it. I withdrew some money and because their api doesn't tell me that its a rough estimate from what I remember.

Long term stats - sweet, mayne!

my current stats:
Bitpit efficiency: 33838%
Btcguild efficiency: 152%
Bitclockers efficiency: 118%

(bitpit certainly did get lucky! As did I)

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Quote from: paraipan on July 15, 2011, 06:37:32 AM

Yupii, seems like bitp.it just got lucky Wink

Yep between them and mtred, its been a glorious 24hrs Wink

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Yupii, seems like bitp.it just got lucky Wink

edit: Here are my stats from the proxy http://www.2shared.com/file/IpuYpwOJ/stats.html

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Any reason not to start adding up and comers instead of going after the big guys? The problem with btcguild is that I hardly get any shares before they're out of range. Maybe we should start encouraging the little guys, say 30 Ghps and over, and help them ramp up? We'll give them a boost and maybe encourage others to join increasing diversity in the pools.

And that's why, Sukrim, someone like you Wink

with lots of kudos should approach NoFeeMining and get them to allow access to their stats on a trial basis.

As for me, I'm waiting for Bit hasher to hit the 30Ghps mark. They look good, api seems useable.

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Which is why if I were to start a pool, I would start it proportionally and submit code + live stats for pool hoppers. Then pay regular miners out of my own pocket a little bonus so they don't loose out.

After some time, if the pool has grown enough to have reasonably low variance, switch to PPLNS (I'm not that much of a fan of SMPPS, as it suggests that miners will always be paid PPS, which isn't true in some bad luck cases) and still enjoy a few rounds of pool hoppers who are too slow to update.

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There is more good than bad coming from "us" hoppers.

Network spikes increase the likelihood of more users moving/joining different pools thus spreading load across pools rather than one pool hogging 50%+ of network hashrate.

Its a psychological effect, people see success and follow.

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Btcguild is now (like deepbit) thinking of delaying stats instead of switching to a secure payout system...

It looks however as if they just want to remove some stats from the API - setting donation to 2.5% and just monitoring changes in the account balance might still work...

It's time however I think to start beating stuff like delayed stats too, as this would re-enable hopping deepbit + BTCguild, who are huge in comparison to other pools.

@Mtred hopping:
Interestingly we seem to have helped them nevertheless (as there are more people who keep mining after 40% than the round before).
For operators that's actually a very good thing, for users... not that much. Wink

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