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Topic: Bitmain Antminer A3 earning $500 a day mining SIAcoin . .WHAT?! Results & Stats - page 18. (Read 11760 times)

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Have spent quite a bit of time with mine, I've gone through the whole unit software / hardware wise and made quite a few hardware notes that ill curate and share at a later date.

Voltage control is whack on these, needs custom firmware. Over the past few days of testing i was getting the following.

600mhz, 80C, 10K+ HW errors
581mhz, 55C, 5 HW errors
575mhz, 70C, 7K+ HW errors

How reducing clock speed results in more heat + HW errors is beyond me unless there are serious voltage calculation issues with these things. Also the CPU on the control board is running near full tilt just to keep up with the UART activity on the hashing boards. So even the simple act of refreshing the web page can give you HW errors. These aren't real errors, but just the control board lagging behind.

Also these are identical to the D3 in almost every way. pic firmware, eeprom images, etc... are all identical. The only thing that sets this apart from a D3 is the ASIC's, but considering it has all the same issues that the D3 had it makes me wonder if bitmain has come up with a more universal ASIC chip that can be reconfigured. There are JTAG headers on the hash boards, so who knows?

 No, they just use fairly universal controllers and control software, with minimal changes to suit the different algorithm.
 I suspect their software for the D3 L3 and A3 all derived from some generation of their S9 software, and goes back at least as far as the S5 in the chain or direct ancestery.

 Their hardware configuration seems to have been set by the S5+/S7 for all their recent miners, VERY minimal changes.

 I don't see any reason why UNDERclocking would void the warranty.


Usually the eeprom's are different, L3/S9/D3 all have different eeprom content. Except the A3 and D3 share the same eeprom content. These eeproms are on the i2c bus and each hash board has one. No clue what the data is actually used for, but considering every miner has been different to this point except the D3/A3 suggest's they are more similar than bitmain would like us to believe.

Also, i traced out that header on the A3 board which all seems to connect to the PIC16F1704 chip.

1 = 14 = VSS
2 = 12 = RA1/ISCPCLK
3 = 13 = RA0/ISCPDAT
4 = 14 = VSS
5 = 1 = VDD
6 = 4 = Vpp/MCLRT/RA3

That basically makes it an ICSP header, which might be able to gather some useful information on the programming. Clearly it isn't locked as cgminer is able to flash this chip on startup if needed. Based on the code it looks like the PIC has a small boot loader program which initializes things, then waits to hear from the controller. Whether the controller actually has an ICSP connection to the PIC itself, or if the small loader program has the ability to read data over i2c for programming i don't know.

/bin/pic.txt has the pic microcode in it, but it may not contain that initial loader program.
legendary
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Have spent quite a bit of time with mine, I've gone through the whole unit software / hardware wise and made quite a few hardware notes that ill curate and share at a later date.

Voltage control is whack on these, needs custom firmware. Over the past few days of testing i was getting the following.

600mhz, 80C, 10K+ HW errors
581mhz, 55C, 5 HW errors
575mhz, 70C, 7K+ HW errors

How reducing clock speed results in more heat + HW errors is beyond me unless there are serious voltage calculation issues with these things. Also the CPU on the control board is running near full tilt just to keep up with the UART activity on the hashing boards. So even the simple act of refreshing the web page can give you HW errors. These aren't real errors, but just the control board lagging behind.

Also these are identical to the D3 in almost every way. pic firmware, eeprom images, etc... are all identical. The only thing that sets this apart from a D3 is the ASIC's, but considering it has all the same issues that the D3 had it makes me wonder if bitmain has come up with a more universal ASIC chip that can be reconfigured. There are JTAG headers on the hash boards, so who knows?

 No, they just use fairly universal controllers and control software, with minimal changes to suit the different algorithm.
 I suspect their software for the D3 L3 and A3 all derived from some generation of their S9 software, and goes back at least as far as the S5 in the chain or direct ancestery.

 Their hardware configuration seems to have been set by the S5+/S7 for all their recent miners, VERY minimal changes.

 I don't see any reason why UNDERclocking would void the warranty.
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Anybody knows if underclocking void tne warranty ?
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thats weird cause im overclocked at 625 and my pcb temps are in 50's and 70's for chip also in a garage
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I'm in it for the long haul on the A3, and don't like the temps getting above 80 degrees. Has anybody had any luck underclocking these to a decent level? I cant seem to keep the temp below 80 despite max fan speed.

In a nice cold garage btw.


I underclocked to 525, set fan % to 85, or 5,210 rpm give or take.  That keeps my chips at 71-74.

With a cold garage, I would think you might get by with 550 and a fan speed over 5,000+.
newbie
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I can extrapolate the yield drop from my 2 580s rig.
before hard fork at block 139,000  1 sia per hour
right after  .5 sia per hour
now .2 sia per hour

Yield has dropped by 80% since the fork.
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Great review, thanks man
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newbie
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Have spent quite a bit of time with mine, I've gone through the whole unit software / hardware wise and made quite a few hardware notes that ill curate and share at a later date.

Voltage control is whack on these, needs custom firmware. Over the past few days of testing i was getting the following.

600mhz, 80C, 10K+ HW errors
581mhz, 55C, 5 HW errors
575mhz, 70C, 7K+ HW errors

How reducing clock speed results in more heat + HW errors is beyond me unless there are serious voltage calculation issues with these things. Also the CPU on the control board is running near full tilt just to keep up with the UART activity on the hashing boards. So even the simple act of refreshing the web page can give you HW errors. These aren't real errors, but just the control board lagging behind.

Also these are identical to the D3 in almost every way. pic firmware, eeprom images, etc... are all identical. The only thing that sets this apart from a D3 is the ASIC's, but considering it has all the same issues that the D3 had it makes me wonder if bitmain has come up with a more universal ASIC chip that can be reconfigured. There are JTAG headers on the hash boards, so who knows?
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I was using Antpool for Mining Siacoin with my new Antminer A3 machine. The machine connected at 8 pm yesterday UK time and now its 8 am uk time.

The machine is hashing. But no revenue.

Please see the attached pool network hash power too. Lot of people started mining and moved. Also the total block solved is shown as 0.

Is Antpool failed against Siacoin?

Anybody have a similar experience with antpool?


Antpool A3 Miner



having the same issue with my A3s on antpool, instead of investigating what was going on Injust switched
Antpool is PPLNS, you won't have any revenue until it finds a share. If you want a PPS pool try siamining
legendary
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I was using Antpool for Mining Siacoin with my new Antminer A3 machine. The machine connected at 8 pm yesterday UK time and now its 8 am uk time.

The machine is hashing. But no revenue.

Please see the attached pool network hash power too. Lot of people started mining and moved. Also the total block solved is shown as 0.

Is Antpool failed against Siacoin?

Anybody have a similar experience with antpool?


Antpool A3 Miner



having the same issue with my A3s on antpool, instead of investigating what was going on Injust switched
newbie
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I was using Antpool for Mining Siacoin with my new Antminer A3 machine. The machine connected at 8 pm yesterday UK time and now its 8 am uk time.

The machine is hashing. But no revenue.

Please see the attached pool network hash power too. Lot of people started mining and moved. Also the total block solved is shown as 0.

Is Antpool failed against Siacoin?

Anybody have a similar experience with antpool?


Antpool A3 Miner

https://preview.ibb.co/jZQhZG/Screen_Shot_2018_01_28_at_07_01_47.png
https://preview.ibb.co/nGgd8b/Screen_Shot_2018_01_28_at_07_02_18.png
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I think the bulk of these have been arriving yesterday and today.  My guess is that they should settle around $50 per day mining over the next 2 days.  Still not too bad.  So far the estimates seem to be somewhere between 11,000 - 14,000 units sold.  Will be curious to see where the actual hashrate ends up.  My guess is that this is going to increase the price of Sia as it is bringing a lot of new people in to Sia's realm who otherwise might not have looked at it.  I think Bitmain did a better job with realeasing the A3 than they did with the D3.  Less supply, and limiting to 1 per order.  That should hopefully have allowed the A3 to be distributed among more people, hopefully.

I do agree that these run way too hot and too loud (mine was mid to high 70's even with cool temps here in the garage but was hashing about 832 GH/s).  Good luck keeping these cool in the summer.  I think they would have been better off reducing the number of chips a bit and make this a 600 - 650 GH/s miner and people would have paid the same price for a machine that would run cooler and draw less power.
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over 10000 errors does not give me confidence to overclock my boards, I like running them for longer than a week.


the bulk of the HW errors happen when the unit first joins the pool, then after an hour or too they stop

I do agree though , what is needed is a way to change the voltages and frequencies of boards individually, some  boards are fine with as high as 680 mhz

where others struggle at as low as 550
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I do electrical.
over 10000 errors does not give me confidence to overclock my boards, I like running them for longer than a week.
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I'm in it for the long haul on the A3, and don't like the temps getting above 80 degrees. Has anybody had any luck underclocking these to a decent level? I cant seem to keep the temp below 80 despite max fan speed.

In a nice cold garage btw.


the PCB or chip temps ? mine are now all occed to 650mhs @ 900ghs and i see PCB temps below for one

Code:
Temp(PCB) Temp(Chip) ASIC status
1 60 650 312.48 10,470 58 77 oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooo
2 60 650 298.47 6,640 57 77 oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooo
3 60 650 313.25 28,900 60 80

the other is a bit more flakey

temps are around 75- 86 do i downclocked to 630 ish for same temps 880 ghs

legendary
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People are buying these for over $5k on eBay  Huh What are your thoughts on that?
couple weeks ago I finished building farm of D3s for one customer of mine, 50+ D3s and I even remember his call back in September asking me what to buy D3 or S9, even tho I was insisting on S9 and they were 1415$ then he bought bunch of D3s
in conclusion I can say that they are checking only purchase date profitability and don't look forward
it's bad people are so greedy even tho you are trying to help them but who cares in the end everyone gets what he deserves


i think the A3 will end the same way as the D3
imo they will last longer than D3 did due to lower quantity
newbie
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i think the A3 will end the same way as the D3
yes but when you look at the price of dash, it hopefully will follow the same trend.

the L3 people who bought batches for march are getting screwing because now bitmain magically decided to ship *another batch within 10 days Smiley Smiley  Tongue
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