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Topic: Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17 - page 13. (Read 11283 times)

legendary
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That's what happens when bitcoin price goes back up and the bunch that turned off their miners return AND upgrade their equipment...

yea but why so far out? they were shipping every two weeks but now its 3 months out? and only thing for sale now is S9J - meh I dont want any of those. though they would be quick ROI.
legendary
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holy hell... 2 hours ago bitmain was sold out on orders shipping in two days... now they are sold out on orders shipping in August?Huh what happened to June/July???

That's what happens when bitcoin price goes back up and the bunch that turned off their miners return AND upgrade their equipment...
legendary
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holy hell... 2 hours ago bitmain was sold out on orders shipping in two days... now they are sold out on orders shipping in August?Huh what happened to June/July???

Not sure if they actually made them available or they are just preparing to do so.
legendary
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holy hell... 2 hours ago bitmain was sold out on orders shipping in two days... now they are sold out on orders shipping in August?Huh what happened to June/July???
newbie
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I'm trying to find info about s17 airflow (CFM). Did someone measure it or at least measure the wind speed going in and out of the miner? The fan's model will also help.

Tnx
legendary
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So has anyone tried manually overclocking these yet?

I have tried overclocking but any changes to clock or voltage seem to be ignored. Without SSH access overlocking is not successful yet
member
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So has anyone tried manually overclocking these yet?
legendary
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So why should anyone trust any company to host their equipment, bitcoin miner or no? There are reputable hosting companies, you just do your due diligence, like any other business.

You yourself have said your plan to build a datacenter is to rent the space out to other people and "also use it for housing miners" with your attitude you would have no customers because you are an unknown entity and might be viewed as one of those "shitty crooked people out there..." I doubt you are, but you can see my point.

I've been mining with my gear with various hosting companies for over 5 years, once it became unprofitable to mine at home, and without experiencing these shitty crooked people you speak of. Oh I know they are out there you just gotta steer clear of them.

Similarly you have to have to steer clear of shitty crooked people who will  rip you off when buying and selling equipment, you don't want a repeat of the "fiasco with one buyer that cost me over 10k" so I can understand you being a bit gun shy of trusting anyone.

You live and learn with this stuff, like anything. But you shouldn't cut off your nose to spite your face, it could be that its more profitable to use a hosting company than try and build or run one yourself.

you missed the point entirely... I have trusted and lost - and trusted and won. But as long as I can host at my location my own equipment I will - other than that I will buy BTC direct. As for the data center, yes that is my dream to do - but it would not be based on the sole idea of hosting miners - the miners I have on site would all be mine. The rest of the building would be used to operate as an actual data center for companies I already work with and have developed relationships with already. This has been a goal of mine even before I thought to also use it to house ASIC's/gpu mining rigs.

I am glad you have had good experiences and never encountered any bad deals. But spend some time on the forums or even off of them and you will find a lot of cases where people have been ripped off. I, for one, will keep my equipment on site or just buy BTC. I do not nor did I down or criticize/belittle anyone who would do otherwise.

Nor have I cut off my nose to spite my own face - there is no hosting company that would pay me  a profit over what I already make.
legendary
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because there are that many shitty crooked people out there... I have the space for what I have and I have the space to add hundreds if not thousands of miners - just need the power.

So why should anyone trust any company to host their equipment, bitcoin miner or no? There are reputable hosting companies, you just do your due diligence, like any other business.

You yourself have said your plan to build a datacenter is to rent the space out to other people and "also use it for housing miners" with your attitude you would have no customers because you are an unknown entity and might be viewed as one of those "shitty crooked people out there..." I doubt you are, but you can see my point.

I've been mining with my gear with various hosting companies for over 5 years, once it became unprofitable to mine at home, and without experiencing these shitty crooked people you speak of. Oh I know they are out there you just gotta steer clear of them.

Similarly you have to have to steer clear of shitty crooked people who will  rip you off when buying and selling equipment, you don't want a repeat of the "fiasco with one buyer that cost me over 10k" so I can understand you being a bit gun shy of trusting anyone.

You live and learn with this stuff, like anything. But you shouldn't cut off your nose to spite your face, it could be that its more profitable to use a hosting company than try and build or run one yourself.
legendary
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Many people live in areas with expensive electricity and don’t have that available for an option. With the electricity rates in the European countries I’ve been to for example, I don’t think any mining operation would be superior to just buying BTC.

exactly and if I could not have it on my land and in my facility - I would not have it. I do not know anyone anywhere I would trust to host my equipment - to me, that is the same as cloud mining and pretty much pointless, better to buy the BTC then pay someone else to mine with my equipment.
donator
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because there are that many shitty crooked people out there... I have the space for what I have and I have the space to add hundreds if not thousands of miners - just need the power.

Many people live in areas with expensive electricity and don’t have that available for an option. With the electricity rates in the European countries I’ve been to for example, I don’t think any mining operation would be superior to just buying BTC.
legendary
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LOL why?

because there are that many shitty crooked people out there... I have the space for what I have and I have the space to add hundreds if not thousands of miners - just need the power.
full member
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I wouldnt put my gear anywhere I couldnt go see it myself within a 2 min walking distance of my house.

Glad I'm not the only paranoid mofo here.
legendary
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I wouldnt put my gear anywhere I couldnt go see it myself within a 2 min walking distance of my house.

LOL why?
legendary
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So, are you people still not seriously considering moving your mining operations abroad?

I wouldnt put my gear anywhere I couldnt go see it myself within a 2 min walking distance of my house.
legendary
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So, are you people still not seriously considering moving your mining operations abroad?
legendary
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The tax bill I paid for the S17Pro was somewhere around $700 also. It will come.

jeez that is a mofo  damn    50th earns about 300 a month with free power   so if your power is free it is 70 days  of mining.

With tax and shipping were you closer to 2950 or 3100 for batch one?
donator
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Not all were that expensive - The T15's were $700 or close to that - so I think a few of them are below the tax limit.

The tax bill I paid for the S17Pro was somewhere around $700 also. It will come.
legendary
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was that 2k a miner? so 10,500 usd tariffs coming at you.. it’ll be worth it imo adds 2-3 months to reach ur roi maybe

Not all were that expensive - The T15's were $700 or close to that - so I think a few of them are below the tax limit.
member
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so far (I am in the US) 21 miners ordered and paid for and so far zero in taxes.... knock on wood.

was that 2k a miner? so 10,500 usd tariffs coming at you.. it’ll be worth it imo adds 2-3 months to reach ur roi maybe
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