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Topic: Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17 - page 8. (Read 11304 times)

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... basically - I am saying my rash statement of 50% better efficiency was an incorrect statement Smiley

Keep in mind Innosillicon specs are high hash mode. In balanced mode they do much better in terms of efficiency. They are claiming up to 46W/TH in efficiency mode for the T3+ 57T. My 39T does close to 53W/TH in balanced mode.

The S17 is superior, but i'm not sure the extra cost and wait is worth it. There are better options as of right now.
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bye-bye Bitmain. ridiculous pricing.  guess it'll have to be Inno or some other manufacturer for my little farm.
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The T3 is on par with the T17 , and the new T3+(57Th) should be on par with S17. Perhaps a bit lower efficiency. I think it will be close when undervolted to around 50th.

from what I can tell:

the T2T 30T is 73 J/TH
the T3+  57T is 58 J/TH
the T3 50T is 62 J/TH

the S17 is either 45 J/TH or 40 J/TH depending on mode
the S17 Pro (both versions) is either 45 J/TH, 39.5 J/TH and 36 J/TH again depending on mode
the T17 is 55 J/TH

so it really depends on mode for the Bitmain versions to be better

but with Bitmain's outrageous prices the decrease in efficiency might still be negligible with the faster roi.

Bitmains worst - the T17 at 55 J/th is right about even with Innosillicon's best the T3+ at 58 J/TH

so based on the prices 1958 for T17 November delivery and 2230 for Innosillicon's November delivery - the bitmain has the better efficiency and lower price but is also lower overall hashing power - so maybe look at it as how many dollars per TH and Innosillicon is the winner at $39.12 per TH vs Bitmains $48.95 per TH -- I think Innosilicon's lower price per TH more than makes up for the 3 J/TH less efficiency

basically - I am saying my rash statement of 50% better efficiency was an incorrect statement Smiley
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only bad thing about Innosillicon is that their miners use close to 50% more power than Bitmains miners - iirc

The T3 is on par with the T17 , and the new T3+(57Th) should be on par with S17. Perhaps a bit lower efficiency. I think it will be close when undervolted to around 50th.
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These prices make Innosillicon a steal. I guess they can charge whatever they want. Supply and demand.

only bad thing about Innosillicon is that their miners use close to 50% more power than Bitmains miners - iirc
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Mine for a Bit
Anyone see the date that the sales will start?
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These prices make Innosillicon a steal. I guess they can charge whatever they want. Supply and demand.
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with these prices plus the import tax - I will not be ordering anything this round.

Right I forgot about the import tax for the US. It feels like a bad typo really, what a kick in the teeth. All this gear was a no go for me just on the worries of going over 240V. Now though I imagine this will give any other manufacturer the same idea to start to squeeze as much out of the gear as possible.

I wonder though I didn't think they would have batches that went up for sale with short delivery timeframes. Smart play if they only pre-sold 80-90% of the batch then held some back to do a cash grab for quick ship units.

It's more high time preference pricing for units shipping in a week. Otherwise the Nov pre orders are reasonably priced.

Does make me consider putting the M20S on the market, and preordering a few things for November.
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We are not retail.
It's more high time preference pricing for units shipping in a week. Otherwise the Nov pre orders are reasonably priced.
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Wow those prices are insane. It's like they priced it at the beginning of the price run, and then tacked on another 800$ for good measure. They know people are foaming at the mouth for gear and don't mind turning the screws a little.

with these prices plus the import tax - I will not be ordering anything this round.
legendary
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Wow those prices are insane. It's like they priced it at the beginning of the price run, and then tacked on another 800$ for good measure. They know people are foaming at the mouth for gear and don't mind turning the screws a little.
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I dont think btc profitability has increased all that much to warrant such high price hikes in the equipment.
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We are not retail.
Considering the market adjustment now it's interesting pricing.
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Prices before:
Antminer S17-53TH/s Shipping in September $1600.00
Antminer T17-40TH/s Shipping in June $1484.00
Antminer S17 Pro-56TH/s Shipping in August $1878.00
Antminer S17 Pro-54TH/s Shipping in July $1779.00

Prices now:
Antminer S17 Pro-56TH/s Shipping in 7 days $4323.00 (130% increase)
Antminer S17 Pro-53TH/s Shipping in 7 days $4093.00 (130% increase)
Antminer S17-53TH/s Shipping in 7 days $3812.00 (140% increase)
Antminer T17-40TH/s Shipping in 7 days $2513.00 (70% increase)

Prices for November:
Antminer S17-53TH/s Shipping in November $2735.00 (70% increase)
Antminer T17-40TH/s Shipping in November $1958.00 (30% increase)
legendary
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yea bitmains prices are insane but they will be sold out prolly the first day they open sales.
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53Th Pro new price 4000 usd,
ouch
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new price came out!  ship within 7 days! Shocked
legendary
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That cl link posted above is scam.  Just so everyone knows.  Will only ship, gives the run around and pushes to pay in btc only.  LOL.

thanks we were trying to find out - see if he would allow local pick up.
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'The right to privacy matters'
how do we even check? one line at a time? or put the meter on each one and add them together?

Monoprice cable c20 to 2x c13 handles 15 amps.

You need a nema 15p to c19 cable. In 14 awg.

I measure 2125 and 2136

With 39950
39965

2125/39950.   53 or 54 watts a th

2136/39965. Same here.

Monoprice.com.   Id 35118. Search that.
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That cl link posted above is scam.  Just so everyone knows.  Will only ship, gives the run around and pushes to pay in btc only.  LOL.
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