Topic: Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17 - page 21. (Read 11304 times)
April 11, 2019, 08:09:45 PM
hmm 4 fans... that will be different than the t15/s15 then that means the adapter to hook to ducting will be different as the screws will be different placements. working on the 3d printed adapters now, will adjust the screw holes to fit this layout.
April 11, 2019, 07:40:36 PM
When we are in Clifton we have to wear headphones.
My guess is the noise level is over 90db inside the mining room.
My guess is the noise level is over 90db inside the mining room.
April 11, 2019, 06:27:08 PM
In the photo on official site bitmain seems that the fan are 4......
7 - and those 3 little ones may be the reason it's 82dB ...
(if anyone remembers the T1 ...)
April 11, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
I wonder how loud that thing is...
a bit like this (82dB):
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Garbage disposal, dishwasher, average factory, freight train (at 15 meters). Car wash at 20 ft (89 dB); propeller plane flyover at 1000 ft (88 dB); diesel truck 40 mph at 50 ft (84 dB); diesel train at 45 mph at 100 ft (83 dB). Food blender (88 dB); milling machine (85 dB); garbage disposal (80 dB).
Possible damage in 8 hour exposure.
April 11, 2019, 04:23:39 PM
In the photo on official site bitmain seems that the fan are 4......
Very well then, i stand corrected. I wonder how loud that thing is...
April 11, 2019, 03:42:35 PM
In the photo on official site bitmain seems that the fan are 4......
That was my belief from the photo's as well. Definitely 4 fans, unless the pics are wrong.
April 11, 2019, 03:02:17 PM
PS: It uses 2 fans, not 4. The design since the S11 is the same: two pusher fans in one side. Canaan is using this design as well.
In the photo on official site bitmain seems that the fan are 4......
April 11, 2019, 08:06:07 AM
Anyway looks like s17 are still sold out for first batch. Let's hope second comes soon in every regard for our friend philipma. Though he wont have to worry about a refund if he requests it. Sorry stryfe, what a shitty ordeal btw.
first batch sold out in 14 minutes on the 9th, second batch went on sale on the 10th - lasted about a day before being sold out. Bitmain listed the two batch sale dates on their site/blog.
Do mention the vendor, it is a service to the community.
it was over a year ago - and I have forgotten tbh but I believe that I did post it up on here but that when I was just starting here and it may have been deleted. the majority of my first 50 or so posts were deleted - I think I had to make like 75 posts before they started letting them stay on the forums lol
what I do remember is that it was not a manufacturer order - it was a 3rd party seller and their website was offline within a month after they got my money.
April 11, 2019, 07:49:57 AM
I cannot use paypal anymore - I ordered 10.6k worth of miners and paid with paypal - never got the miners (first and last time buying from a 3rd party that is not proven thru these forums)
Do mention the vendor, it is a service to the community.
April 11, 2019, 07:18:00 AM
I think that a small miner ( for example one antminer s9 ++++ with the same chips of this ) will be interesring for normal user...for example... a miner with 12 TH and 500 watt with a cost of 600/800 usd is perfect. ( 36 TH ( low power mode ) /3 = 12 , 1300w /3 = 433 watt , 2366 usd /3 =788 usd....)
One this hypotetical miner is perfect for me..... for my home, for the home of most user...
Real decentralization for all people, not only farm.
I don't know if is possible.. but i hope yes.
One this hypotetical miner is perfect for me..... for my home, for the home of most user...
Real decentralization for all people, not only farm.
I don't know if is possible.. but i hope yes.
Actually the solution to this is very simple: buy used when they start breaking. You don't need all 3 asic boards, just get one with 2 or one in working condition... The last miner for the home was the R4, sadly. Their only market are industrial warehouse miners where noise and power doesn't matter.
Buy a damaged S17 with a single working Asic board and put it inside a box like in Philipma's garage and you are gold. Don't worry, they'll break soon enough, they always do... And i hope by that time BraiinsOS is ported to it, who knows how much better efficiency can be squeezed from them.
April 11, 2019, 07:00:05 AM
This is my idea...
I don't like ths miner...
For me is a miner only for farm ....
Over 2 kw
4 fan.....
Is impossible for a common user give this miner....
Where is decentralization?
I'm worried because only big farm with big money can do this type of mining...
I think that a small miner ( for example one antminer s9 ++++ with the same chips of this ) will be interesring for normal user...for example... a miner with 12 TH and 500 watt with a cost of 600/800 usd is perfect. ( 36 TH ( low power mode ) /3 = 12 , 1300w /3 = 433 watt , 2366 usd /3 =788 usd....)
One this hypotetical miner is perfect for me..... for my home, for the home of most user...
Real decentralization for all people, not only farm.
I don't know if is possible.. but i hope yes.
Bye.
I don't like ths miner...
For me is a miner only for farm ....
Over 2 kw
4 fan.....
Is impossible for a common user give this miner....
Where is decentralization?
I'm worried because only big farm with big money can do this type of mining...
I think that a small miner ( for example one antminer s9 ++++ with the same chips of this ) will be interesring for normal user...for example... a miner with 12 TH and 500 watt with a cost of 600/800 usd is perfect. ( 36 TH ( low power mode ) /3 = 12 , 1300w /3 = 433 watt , 2366 usd /3 =788 usd....)
One this hypotetical miner is perfect for me..... for my home, for the home of most user...
Real decentralization for all people, not only farm.
I don't know if is possible.. but i hope yes.
Bye.
April 11, 2019, 05:13:15 AM
Anyway looks like s17 are still sold out for first batch. Let's hope second comes soon in every regard for our friend philipma. Though he wont have to worry about a refund if he requests it. Sorry stryfe, what a shitty ordeal btw.
I will take you up on the refund. I sent you a pm asking for it.
April 11, 2019, 01:20:31 AM
Anyway looks like s17 are still sold out for first batch. Let's hope second comes soon in every regard for our friend philipma. Though he wont have to worry about a refund if he requests it. Sorry stryfe, what a shitty ordeal btw.
April 10, 2019, 10:22:20 PM
OVER THE YEARS more then one 13th s9 did better then a 14th s9
Hmm. I handed over for repair a lot of S9 13th hashblades. And I can't remember I had broken 14th blade...
I have come to realise that the best asic is the one the ROIs faster regardless of effiecny , new gens will always most likely always have a longer ROI period.
Around 7 months here in Siberia. Just for you to know.
April 10, 2019, 10:50:53 AM
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very nice, I have the land already paid for, almost 1.3 acres. My challenge has been with the electric company and zoning on getting a transformer installed. If I could secure the transformer, I would then get financing to build a data center - I don't want to go too big but maybe something along the lines of 150' long by 75' wide. I could do traditional data center hosting along with mining my own miners and then hosting for others as well. my electricity is not super cheap but it's only .056 so not that expensive either.
Stryfe I just re read your DM, please omit my confusion on your request regarding the psu.
I understood and thanks!
April 10, 2019, 10:45:41 AM
We may put up a group buy soon, but still gauging demand for US buyers. That said we left the duties as an optional service for this launch since having 12 listings for 4 products seemed like it would be overbearing.
I just DM'd Philip as paypal takes time to transfer funds usually up to 1 business day. When the order was placed looks like Bitmain showed inventory from our API now it's either sold or locked up for now if people can't pay in time. So there are options for Philip to weigh but nothing out of the ordinary for us with new releases or high demand items, just not ideal for a buyer experience.
Stryfe I just re read your DM, please omit my confusion on your request regarding the psu.
I just DM'd Philip as paypal takes time to transfer funds usually up to 1 business day. When the order was placed looks like Bitmain showed inventory from our API now it's either sold or locked up for now if people can't pay in time. So there are options for Philip to weigh but nothing out of the ordinary for us with new releases or high demand items, just not ideal for a buyer experience.
Stryfe I just re read your DM, please omit my confusion on your request regarding the psu.
April 10, 2019, 10:35:20 AM
This is good for s17s or s15s.
We may move all other gear to super build and load Clifton with all s17s.
Would be nice to have 36 s17s doing 50 th a piece.
We may move all other gear to super build and load Clifton with all s17s.
Would be nice to have 36 s17s doing 50 th a piece.
Damn Phil. That sounds amazing. It's nice to see you guys finding so many opportunities to grow. Works out nicely that it's happening amidst all this crazy efficient gear.
April 10, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
Took me a long time to get good power deals.
As for buying m20's vs s17's I will have multiple complex decisions . The Clifton build is about 231 volts max and it sags to 227 volts with current load of 64kwatts.
As for no tax yes it is not tax upfront but I am 90% sure someone will be asking me for tax money 💰😀
The super build will have 1600 amps or 1400 amps.
It is three sites
A 200 - 400 amp not checked yet
A 400 amp checked out
A pair of 400 amp not checked yet.
So in Theory it is at least four services adding to 1400 to 1600 amps.
On three attached pieces of land over 120 acres of mostly cleared horse 🐎 pasture.
This is a multi million dollar project that would be really nice to get it done.
We will be going to the larger property that has two 400 amp services on it. Next week.
It is still in the what if stage.
The Clifton has 2 x 225 amp panels and will soon have 4 x 225 panels. The super fan is in and it is moving along. It is why I need to really check out the s17 gear as it has never been over 237 volts and now with big load it is 227 volts.
This is good for s17s or s15s.
We may move all other gear to super build and load Clifton with all s17s.
Would be nice to have 36 s17s doing 50 th a piece.
As for buying m20's vs s17's I will have multiple complex decisions . The Clifton build is about 231 volts max and it sags to 227 volts with current load of 64kwatts.
As for no tax yes it is not tax upfront but I am 90% sure someone will be asking me for tax money 💰😀
The super build will have 1600 amps or 1400 amps.
It is three sites
A 200 - 400 amp not checked yet
A 400 amp checked out
A pair of 400 amp not checked yet.
So in Theory it is at least four services adding to 1400 to 1600 amps.
On three attached pieces of land over 120 acres of mostly cleared horse 🐎 pasture.
This is a multi million dollar project that would be really nice to get it done.
We will be going to the larger property that has two 400 amp services on it. Next week.
It is still in the what if stage.
The Clifton has 2 x 225 amp panels and will soon have 4 x 225 panels. The super fan is in and it is moving along. It is why I need to really check out the s17 gear as it has never been over 237 volts and now with big load it is 227 volts.
This is good for s17s or s15s.
We may move all other gear to super build and load Clifton with all s17s.
Would be nice to have 36 s17s doing 50 th a piece.
April 10, 2019, 10:21:54 AM
ahh minefarmpay does not charge for the tariff? hmmm... makes the price more acceptable.
I cannot use paypal anymore - I ordered 10.6k worth of miners and paid with paypal - never got the miners (first and last time buying from a 3rd party that is not proven thru these forums) had to file a claim, after about 60 days paypal did refund me the money but now will no longer allow me to send/receive/pay/sell using that account. I guess them eating 10.6k --- I paid and had to wait almost 30 days for the shipping to occur but never did - by that time the seller most likely withdrew all the funds so paypal reimbursed me outta their pocket, I assume.
as for your available power, i am still jealous lol.
I cannot use paypal anymore - I ordered 10.6k worth of miners and paid with paypal - never got the miners (first and last time buying from a 3rd party that is not proven thru these forums) had to file a claim, after about 60 days paypal did refund me the money but now will no longer allow me to send/receive/pay/sell using that account. I guess them eating 10.6k --- I paid and had to wait almost 30 days for the shipping to occur but never did - by that time the seller most likely withdrew all the funds so paypal reimbursed me outta their pocket, I assume.
as for your available power, i am still jealous lol.
April 10, 2019, 10:01:25 AM
Philip - let me know what that total comes to with the tariff and after shipping - I want to just buy 10 of them and be done with it but I feel that without coupons and with tariffs and current price that I will be in the red for over a year and that is not what i want.
I used minefarmpay paypal 6 months zero interest
April 10, 2019 Processing $2,539.00 for 1 item
Antminer S17 Pro 50Th/s- Solo Buy × 1 $2,539.00
this is 200 more then direct purchase but I get to use paypal.
I am 90% sure it does not include the tax. my guess on the tax is 550
net 3089 vs 2890 direct on bitmain.
I will be passing this cost on to a client.
I need to have at least 1 S17 and 1 M20 since I will be getting 5-15 of them maybe more like 60 of them.
As I think the super build will get done.
we have access to 800 amps x 80 % = 640 amps
and may have access to 1600 amps x 50% = 800 amps
net of 1440 amps of 220-240.
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