The ssh of the S19 Pro is activated by default - does anyone have the credentials?
The previous default from the s9 (user:root, pw:admin) doesn't work.
Would be great to have ssh access to my miner or to at least be sure no one else can access my miner^^
Topic: Bitmain Introduces the S19 and S19 Pro - page 5. (Read 4784 times)
S19 PRO 110 TH/S is now for delivery for August. still @ $2633 per unit.
S19 95 TH/S as well, priced at $1964.
This is either a tactic to sell the S17 or they are really selling well their stock.
Knowing Bitmain for only a few years ( overall positive experience ) but also from reading from here, I personally believe this is just a tactic to sell the old gear.
If you want to buy NOW and wait till August be aware Bitmain will have sales until then ( Flash sales ) and others will order and get exact gear as yours earlier ( this mostly from personal experience.
Check the website more often as things always change. My 2 cents that no one asked for
EDIT:
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000202005141802135128Tsh82210619 - S19 PRO back on stock
Hashrate: 110TH/s
Shipping date: 1-31, Aug. 2020
$2493.00
also, anyone has one? was curious how the fans act on it, both the unit and the psu
S19 95 TH/S as well, priced at $1964.
This is either a tactic to sell the S17 or they are really selling well their stock.
Knowing Bitmain for only a few years ( overall positive experience ) but also from reading from here, I personally believe this is just a tactic to sell the old gear.
If you want to buy NOW and wait till August be aware Bitmain will have sales until then ( Flash sales ) and others will order and get exact gear as yours earlier ( this mostly from personal experience.
Check the website more often as things always change. My 2 cents that no one asked for
EDIT:
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000202005141802135128Tsh82210619 - S19 PRO back on stock
Hashrate: 110TH/s
Shipping date: 1-31, Aug. 2020
$2493.00
also, anyone has one? was curious how the fans act on it, both the unit and the psu
Bitmain released S17e for sale again, but removed S19 Pro for now and S19 Pro is back for sale at price of $2633 and shipping date of 1-31 July 2020 (everything same as before).
Bitmain just put S17e back to sale.
S17e specs:
Hashrate: 60TH/s (max 64 TH/s with Power Usage of 3400W (53W/TH))
Reference Power Usage (Min): 2700W
Power Efficiency (@25℃): 45 W/TH (but not at 60 TH/s if I understand correctly - should be around 50W/TH in reality)
Shipping Date: 1-30 June 2020
Price: $896 (before VAT, shipping and any other expenses)
S17e specs:
Hashrate: 60TH/s (max 64 TH/s with Power Usage of 3400W (53W/TH))
Reference Power Usage (Min): 2700W
Power Efficiency (@25℃): 45 W/TH (but not at 60 TH/s if I understand correctly - should be around 50W/TH in reality)
Shipping Date: 1-30 June 2020
Price: $896 (before VAT, shipping and any other expenses)
They are far too highly priced.
Lets project coins at 12000 after ½ ing.
that would be 6000 now.
You don't get the gear until July 10.
if diff stays at current level and coins are 12000.
On july the unit earns 110 x 0.0904 = just about 10 dollars a day it burns 75-80 k-watts 2.40 at 3 cent power.
10 - 2.40 = 7.60 profit 3cent you pay 2800 if tax is zero 368 day to break even from July 10 which is July 13 2021
10 - 3.20 = 6.80 profit 4cent you pay 2800 if tax is zero 411 day to break even " " " " " August 25 2021
10 - 4.80 = 5.20 profit 5cent you pay 2800 if tax is zero 538 day to break even " " " " " December 20 2021
this is with fully flat diff and a 12,000 coin price Just don't buy the gear.
note with free power 280 days and no import tax is April 23 2021.
Lets project coins at 12000 after ½ ing.
that would be 6000 now.
You don't get the gear until July 10.
if diff stays at current level and coins are 12000.
On july the unit earns 110 x 0.0904 = just about 10 dollars a day it burns 75-80 k-watts 2.40 at 3 cent power.
10 - 2.40 = 7.60 profit 3cent you pay 2800 if tax is zero 368 day to break even from July 10 which is July 13 2021
10 - 3.20 = 6.80 profit 4cent you pay 2800 if tax is zero 411 day to break even " " " " " August 25 2021
10 - 4.80 = 5.20 profit 5cent you pay 2800 if tax is zero 538 day to break even " " " " " December 20 2021
this is with fully flat diff and a 12,000 coin price Just don't buy the gear.
note with free power 280 days and no import tax is April 23 2021.
I guess that Bitmain thinks they'll get orders even though the price is high, especially in the situation after the halving.
It's crazy that they can do close to as they please with the prices and there still will be people buying hw.
It's crazy that they can do close to as they please with the prices and there still will be people buying hw.
S19 and S19 Pro are again up for sale on international website.
Price:
S19 - $1964
S19 Pro - $2633
Delivery date:
1-31 July
Price:
S19 - $1964
S19 Pro - $2633
Delivery date:
1-31 July
yea I noticed that late last night but the tariff and the halving make those very unappealing, to me at least.
S19 and S19 Pro are again up for sale on international website.
Price:
S19 - $1964
S19 Pro - $2633
Delivery date:
1-31 July
Price:
S19 - $1964
S19 Pro - $2633
Delivery date:
1-31 July
You got a good point, but at this price premium of S19s, I'd expect them to be a bit more robust and better in overall quality. But we will see in May/June how that turns out...
It's really nice to hear from someone who owns what I consider to be a good sample size, and since the attrition of 15% on the S17s pros and 20-25 on the S17s it's safe to assume the average is 20%, and honestly, I am quite sure it would have been worse if you got anything else aside from the pro version.
The one thing I would like to add which I have missed in my previous comment is the fact that it's really not just the 7nm technology that is making Bitmain's gears quality look like shit, it has to be something else, I am saying this because even the new S9 models which are built on 16nm are way far from robust when you compare them to the previous models, this has to be something with their quality control, maybe some very essential engineers left Bitmain, maybe they are desperately trying to reduce the cost, I don't know what caused them to start making shity gears like this but I know that the S19s will most likely be less robust, or at best case scenario - they will be as reliable as the S17s.
The one thing I would like to add which I have missed in my previous comment is the fact that it's really not just the 7nm technology that is making Bitmain's gears quality look like shit, it has to be something else, I am saying this because even the new S9 models which are built on 16nm are way far from robust when you compare them to the previous models, this has to be something with their quality control, maybe some very essential engineers left Bitmain, maybe they are desperately trying to reduce the cost, I don't know what caused them to start making shity gears like this but I know that the S19s will most likely be less robust, or at best case scenario - they will be as reliable as the S17s.
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From my perspective, you are correct. Bitmain's overall 7nm units are far from robust or reliable. I have had the best luck with Pro's but they still exhibit a 15% attrition rate on my racks. 15 out of 100 have lost boards, burnt PSU's. Out of 200 S17's we are experiencing 20-25% attrition with many lost boards and plenty of burnt PSU's. We are finding that the " High Temp Solder" on the boards is NOT performing at the temps that specs would suggest. Heat Syncs are coming loose and falling off along with failing solder connections. I believe you are wise to observe that Bitmain's QA/QC has taken a drastic turn for the worse. I am committed to avoiding ALL new Bitmain Products and focus on Micro BT. The final nail in th coffin for Bitmain was their clsing of thr CA repair center. So even warranty work incurs a very expensive shipment to China for repairs.
It might be just my bad luck with S17+ , or it is just a matter of difference batches, again everyone is free to buy whatever they want, by the way how are the temps doing with 91th, are you using asic.to?
Not sure about 91TH profile, I ran it for few hours and didn't like it's usage as it was preset. I went to manual OC and did 94TH/s @3750W and max temp on middle board (but only on one temp node) was 85-87C while ambient is between 20-25C. Other hashboards were sitting between 70C and 80C.Another thing I noticed with the S17+'s vs my S17e or S17pro..... the S17+'s boot up way faster than the S17e or S17pro.
If I do a reboot, or point to a different pool, the S17+'s are back up in like 2-3 minutes, whereas the S17e and S17pro can take 7-8min
If I do a reboot, or point to a different pool, the S17+'s are back up in like 2-3 minutes, whereas the S17e and S17pro can take 7-8min
Same here, S17+ boots as fast as Z11 but S17Pro and S17e boot same as S9 (takes hell of a lot of time).
Another thing I noticed with the S17+'s vs my S17e or S17pro..... the S17+'s boot up way faster than the S17e or S17pro.
If I do a reboot, or point to a different pool, the S17+'s are back up in like 2-3 minutes, whereas the S17e and S17pro can take 7-8min
If I do a reboot, or point to a different pool, the S17+'s are back up in like 2-3 minutes, whereas the S17e and S17pro can take 7-8min
It might be just my bad luck with S17+, or it is just a matter of different batches, again everyone is free to buy whatever they want, by the way how are the temps doing with 91th, are you using Asic.to?
I'm experiencing the exact opposite. My two S17+'s have been running flawlessly since day one. Excellent temps and fan speeds. My one S17e has had a few hiccups here n there, dropping a board, dropping offline a few times.
Same here. My S17+ was running mid December @76.5TH/s and now since yesterday it is running 91.5TH/s w/o any problems.
You should really consider the shipping duration given the pandemic and its effects, local shipments that used to happen on the same day or in 3-4 days now takes a week and more to be delivered, and if things don't get much better - products coming in from China could be stuck in the way for a very long time, this indeed differs from one location to another, but make sure you call and ask.
Maybe I get a t17+ it is cheap.
762 is pretty good.
the s19 and the s19,pro are back on sale.
762 is pretty good.
the s19 and the s19,pro are back on sale.
I'm experiencing the exact opposite. My two S17+'s have been running flawlessly since day one. Excellent temps and fan speeds. My one S17e has had a few hiccups here n there, dropping a board, dropping offline a few times.
I think you mean T71e and not S17e? Well, Luck plays a huge factor in this, we don't have enough samples yet to conclude the results, for example, I have had enough samples of S9k to be sure that they suck, certainly not enough of anything of the new models, but for 2 out of 2 S17+ I personally take it as a bad sign and I will not be ordering them again, the T17e is not my favorite either, simply due to the power it uses, my favorite by far is S17 pro then comes T17.
buysolar is running a s17+ it is really good.
we have a t17+ in clifton farm it sucks.
we have a t17+ in clifton farm it sucks.
That's 50/50, not a very encouraging result on your end either if they list S17 pro for $1000 that might be something.
buysolar is running a s17+ it is really good.
we have a t17+ in clifton farm it sucks.
i would not mind ordering an s17+
we will be turning off 28 s9s that do about 315th.
if i order an s17+ and we bring up 2 s17+ that would be 140th to replace some of the 315th we are turning off.
we will be freeing 25-28kwatts
2 s17+ are only 6 kwatts.
it is tempting.
anyone have any coupons?
i would also consider getting more T17+ i would hate to see them end up doing only two boards.
they are pretty cheap.
i wonder if i pull the dead board and run with a psu and a controller if it works.
we have a t17+ in clifton farm it sucks.
i would not mind ordering an s17+
we will be turning off 28 s9s that do about 315th.
if i order an s17+ and we bring up 2 s17+ that would be 140th to replace some of the 315th we are turning off.
we will be freeing 25-28kwatts
2 s17+ are only 6 kwatts.
it is tempting.
anyone have any coupons?
i would also consider getting more T17+ i would hate to see them end up doing only two boards.
they are pretty cheap.
i wonder if i pull the dead board and run with a psu and a controller if it works.
I am having some issues with these guys, honestly, they don't seem to be reliable AT ALL, looks like they are just S17 pro overclocked to their max or more of the same chips on the same hash board, I have two of these at the moment, one had an issue with the control board and I had to replace it, now the other one is having PSU issues, so in a nutshell, these have 100% failure based on my experience and luck, as for the T17+ a few people whom I know including philipma1957 reported issues with them too, so long stories short; stay away from anything (+)
The S17 Pro, T17e, T17 are doing well so far.
Honestly, I am starting to think that I should switch to MicroBt, I don't trust Bitmain's quality anymore and I am almost certain these S19s will be even less reliable.
The S17 Pro, T17e, T17 are doing well so far.
Honestly, I am starting to think that I should switch to MicroBt, I don't trust Bitmain's quality anymore and I am almost certain these S19s will be even less reliable.
I'm experiencing the exact opposite. My two S17+'s have been running flawlessly since day one. Excellent temps and fan speeds. My one S17e has had a few hiccups here n there, dropping a board, dropping offline a few times.
they also told me the international delivery for the first batch will not be 11 to 20 May but rather later around early June
well bitmain finally put the prices up $2633 for the S19 pro and $1964 for the regular s19 - add in shipping and tariff and its around $3500 for pro and $2700 for regular.
Shipping in June.
Shipping in June.
You are welcome for the hint
Jokes aside, no go for me with these prices and the halving is due in less than a month
HOWEVER, T17+ and S17+ prices have been lowered while shipping times remained same (21-30 April).
I am having some issues with these guys, honestly, they don't seem to be reliable AT ALL, looks like they are just S17 pro overclocked to their max or more of the same chips on the same hash board, I have two of these at the moment, one had an issue with the control board and I had to replace it, now the other one is having PSU issues, so in a nutshell, these have 100% failure based on my experience and luck, as for the T17+ a few people whom I know including philipma1957 reported issues with them too, so long stories short; stay away from anything (+)
The S17 Pro, T17e, T17 are doing well so far.
Honestly, I am starting to think that I should switch to MicroBt, I don't trust Bitmain's quality anymore and I am almost certain these S19s will be even less reliable.
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