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Topic: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner - page 19. (Read 37211 times)

member
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August 28, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
So are we great again now?

Except this isn't a trump thing... that classification grouping pre-dates trump... and the rate is specified as 2.6%.

-j
legendary
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August 28, 2018, 01:04:32 PM
So are we great again now?
member
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August 28, 2018, 12:29:59 PM
Just got off the phone with customs.  They are reclassifying the tariff association from 8471.50.0150, what is on the invoice from Bitmain, to 8543.70.9960 because "ANTMINER" is on the invoice as of 8/23/2018.  This is for all carriers into the US. DHL, UPS, etc.

https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=8471.50.0150 - High Level:  Freely programmable data processing electronics - 0% extra fee
https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=8543709960 - High Level: Not freely programmable specialized mining equipment - 25% extra fee

https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=ANTMINER&collection=ALL&sortBy=DATE_DESC&pageSize=30&page=1

Unless Bitmain changes their invoice to not say ANTMINER, but instead calls it general purpose computer, or something else, customs is now changing the tariff association.


Hmmm. 8543.70.9960 appears to be under the 1/General 2.6% though... *confused*

*EDIT*: In reading the actual ruling, it should be 2.6%: By application of GRI 1, and Chapter 84 Note 5 (A) and (E), the applicable subheading for the Antminer S9 and DragonMint Miner will be 8543.70.9960, HTSUS, which provides for “Electrical machines and apparatus…: Other machines and apparatus: Other: Other: Other: Other”.  The rate of duty will be 2.6 percent ad valorem.

And here is the most recent chapter85: https://hts.usitc.gov/view/Chapter%2085?release=2018HTSARevision10
Search in that document for 8543.70.99 and look for sub-heading 60 in the table -- rolls up to 8543.70 which is 2.6%.

Something fishy here.
newbie
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August 28, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Just got off the phone with customs.  They are reclassifying the tariff association from 8471.50.0150, what is on the invoice from Bitmain, to 8543.70.9960 because "ANTMINER" is on the invoice as of 8/23/2018.  This is for all carriers into the US. DHL, UPS, etc.

https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=8471.50.0150 - High Level:  Freely programmable data processing electronics - 0% extra fee
https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=8543709960 - High Level: Not freely programmable specialized mining equipment - 25% extra fee

https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=ANTMINER&collection=ALL&sortBy=DATE_DESC&pageSize=30&page=1

Unless Bitmain changes their invoice to not say ANTMINER, but instead calls it general purpose computer, or something else, customs is now changing the tariff association.
newbie
Activity: 141
Merit: 0
August 28, 2018, 10:42:31 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Same in NJ.

Updates:

Another order via DHL just got hit by customs fee even more 190$ per miner.
member
Activity: 504
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August 28, 2018, 09:57:44 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?


Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.

Did you order one or multiple? Maybe 1 is below the threshold where the customs fee is applied?
I ordered 2 with DHL and I had no import fees. Weird that just using a different company gets you out of paying those fees.

Well to be sure it has always been basically random as to whether or not UPS charges a brokerage fee.  Sometimes they assess one and sometimes they don't and who can say why?

I ordered mine under a Corporation, with a IRS corporate EIN given. I wonder if that makes a difference, or whether it is just because of UPS. Also, UPS has always charged me import duties of around 2.5% in the past. I was never able to avoid that.
 

After seeing all of this, I'm going to attempt to move my UPS shipment to DHL w/ bitmain. 25% on Z9s doesn't sound fun to me.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 29
August 28, 2018, 08:25:52 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?


Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.

Did you order one or multiple? Maybe 1 is below the threshold where the customs fee is applied?
I ordered 2 with DHL and I had no import fees. Weird that just using a different company gets you out of paying those fees.

Well to be sure it has always been basically random as to whether or not UPS charges a brokerage fee.  Sometimes they assess one and sometimes they don't and who can say why?

I ordered mine under a Corporation, with a IRS corporate EIN given. I wonder if that makes a difference, or whether it is just because of UPS. Also, UPS has always charged me import duties of around 2.5% in the past. I was never able to avoid that.
 
sr. member
Activity: 373
Merit: 254
August 28, 2018, 07:59:40 AM
did someone receive 2nd batch z9 mini ? i heard on discord a9-z9 that the 2nd batch of z9 mini, bitmain have block the possibility to overclock ?
not true, it can be OC. I just did it

How to OC?  Did you flash another firmware? 
I just received mine today and i only have the option for "balanced" instead of a list of frequencies to set. 

i didn’t do anything, it came with a list of frequencies as default just like in the 1st batch
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
August 28, 2018, 07:54:34 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?


Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.

Did you order one or multiple? Maybe 1 is below the threshold where the customs fee is applied?
I ordered 2 with DHL and I had no import fees. Weird that just using a different company gets you out of paying those fees.

Well to be sure it has always been basically random as to whether or not UPS charges a brokerage fee.  Sometimes they assess one and sometimes they don't and who can say why?
jr. member
Activity: 146
Merit: 4
August 28, 2018, 07:27:46 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?


Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.

Did you order one or multiple? Maybe 1 is below the threshold where the customs fee is applied?
I ordered 2 with DHL and I had no import fees. Weird that just using a different company gets you out of paying those fees.

Interesting. I have one coming tomorrow with DHL and one on Thursday with UPS. I am curious now how many fees I will have to pay.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
August 28, 2018, 07:23:40 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?


Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.

Did you order one or multiple? Maybe 1 is below the threshold where the customs fee is applied?
I ordered 2 with DHL and I had no import fees. Weird that just using a different company gets you out of paying those fees.
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
August 28, 2018, 07:16:58 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.

Did you order one or multiple? Maybe 1 is below the threshold where the customs fee is applied?

I ordered just one.
jr. member
Activity: 146
Merit: 4
August 28, 2018, 07:08:39 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.

Did you order one or multiple? Maybe 1 is below the threshold where the customs fee is applied?
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
August 28, 2018, 07:05:29 AM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Same in NJ.

That's fucked.  Does it say anything on the UPS tracking page?  UPS doesn't have my info to text me about it but the tracking says I should receive mine today.  The batch 1 miner had something like a $60 fee but it mentioned a fee being due on the UPS tracking page, although not the amount.  This one does not mention a fee on the tracking page so I am hoping I dodged it.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
August 28, 2018, 07:02:47 AM
did someone receive 2nd batch z9 mini ? i heard on discord a9-z9 that the 2nd batch of z9 mini, bitmain have block the possibility to overclock ?
not true, it can be OC. I just did it

How to OC?  Did you flash another firmware? 
I just received mine today and i only have the option for "balanced" instead of a list of frequencies to set. 
full member
Activity: 558
Merit: 194
August 28, 2018, 06:47:36 AM
My units shipped yesterday via DHL as well to Virginia.  No notifications (yet) about any import duties.

None of my previous Bitmain orders have been accesses any duties when shipping via DHL, with the exception of a pair of S9's back in December of last year. (8 miners received in 2018, mix of S9's, L3's and Z9's).
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
August 28, 2018, 06:43:41 AM
DHL shipped mine yesterday with no import fees to North Carolina.
jr. member
Activity: 173
Merit: 2
August 28, 2018, 06:38:05 AM
I am happy with 700 MHs. My both (end of June and beginning of July) orders were shipped
full member
Activity: 325
Merit: 110
August 27, 2018, 10:02:49 PM
did someone receive 2nd batch z9 mini ? i heard on discord a9-z9 that the 2nd batch of z9 mini, bitmain have block the possibility to overclock ?

mine refuse to operate at 750M

700M is working
newbie
Activity: 141
Merit: 0
August 27, 2018, 09:59:29 PM
I just got a text message from UPS about import duties. I am in Texas, USA.

The are charging me 367.87 !!!!

This is the breakdown:

IMPORT CHARGES
NOTE: the total value used for calculation of all Duty-based fees is 0.00.
Government Charges: 356.87
Brokerage Charges: 11.00
Freight Charges: 0.00

356.87 / 1400 (2 Z9 minis at $600 each + shipping fees)  =   about 25%

Looks like US folks are getting hit with the new Trump tariffs on Chinese goods.

Ugh. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Same in NJ.
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